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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 17:10:17 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 15, 2015 17:18:17 GMT -4
I doubt he would turn his back on an AHL deal. ECHL it makes a ton of sense to play QMJHL.
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Post by jazz on Sept 15, 2015 18:11:31 GMT -4
Will any of the three players be back from the NHL camps on Friday?
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Sept 15, 2015 18:15:13 GMT -4
Will any of the three players be back from the NHL camps on Friday? askew more than likely garland no news from the yotes sweeney who knows |
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Post by Penguins23® on Feb 26, 2016 7:52:37 GMT -4
I didn't feel like starting a new thread and I hate to single out one player but has there been a more disappointing player this season on the Wildcats than Sweeney? Coming off a pro camp I was expecting big things but he's regressed big time. I don't understand how someone forgets how to play hockey all of a sudden. He was widely regarded as one of the top defensemen in the league last year(Top 5, Top 10 at worst) and now I wouldn't put him in the top 30.
I don't even care that he has 3 goals compared to his 17 last year. That's largely due to the power play. He played a ton of PP last year and would set up in the slot. Must have scored 10 goals from there.
Game after game after game I watch him fail to clear the zone with the puck(His biggest regression was in this department), fail to cover a guy, fail to stick check a guy,etc.
So what happened? Is it another case of a guy wanting to play pro and sulking when he doesn't cut it?(This article seems to suggest that's not the case)
Does he really miss Fabian Joseph? His D coach ever since he came to Moncton.(That could explain not improving but this much regression?)
Did he not play hockey this summer? Is he lacking confidence and it kind of compounded?
I know Billy is going to come in here and blame the goalies for changing the mentality of the team and making them nervous because they don't trust their goalie but someone who doesn't trust their goalie would riffle the puck off the glass for an icing a the very least instead of making blind back hands from your own zone.
Whatever it is, the potential is still there but someone has to figure out how to get him back on top of his game, ASAP. I think the Cats hoped Donaghey would be able to come in and give him some help but they were rather disastrous together so when Kosack got hurt they scrapped that idea.
He was on the ice for Rouyn's 5th goal last night and was publicly called out by Rumble for his dumb giveaway on the 6th goal.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Feb 26, 2016 10:38:05 GMT -4
I haven't seen a regression this bad since...Dan Milan.
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Post by bois on Feb 26, 2016 10:49:21 GMT -4
Maybe he was not as good as you all thought to begin with?
Certainly wouldn't be the first time a defenseman in particular was greatly overvalued by Moncton fanbase
Just a thought
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Post by Penguins23® on Feb 26, 2016 10:57:17 GMT -4
Maybe he was not as good as you all thought to begin with? Certainly wouldn't be the first time a defenseman in particular was greatly overvalued by Moncton fanbase Just a thought It's not just Wildcats fans that though Sweeney was very good but ok. On another note, what a butterfly effect that Will Smith knee on Donaghey had last year. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 26, 2016 11:02:48 GMT -4
I didn't feel like starting a new thread and I hate to single out one player but has there been a more disappointing player this season on the Wildcats than Sweeney? Coming off a pro camp I was expecting big things but he's regressed big time. I don't understand how someone forgets how to play hockey all of a sudden. He was widely regarded as one of the top defensemen in the league last year(Top 5, Top 10 at worst) and now I wouldn't put him in the top 30. I don't even care that he has 3 goals compared to his 17 last year. That's largely due to the power play. He played a ton of PP last year and would set up in the slot. Must have scored 10 goals from there. Game after game after game I watch him fail to clear the zone with the puck(His biggest regression was in this department), fail to cover a guy, fail to stick check a guy,etc. So what happened? Is it another case of a guy wanting to play pro and sulking when he doesn't cut it?(This article seems to suggest that's not the case) Does he really miss Fabian Joseph? His D coach ever since he came to Moncton.(That could explain not improving but this much regression?) Did he not play hockey this summer? Is he lacking confidence and it kind of compounded? I know Billy is going to come in here and blame the goalies for changing the mentality of the team and making them nervous because they don't trust their goalie but someone who doesn't trust their goalie would riffle the puck off the glass for an icing a the very least instead of making blind back hands from your own zone. Whatever it is, the potential is still there but someone has to figure out how to get him back on top of his game, ASAP. I think the Cats hoped Donaghey would be able to come in and give him some help but they were rather disastrous together so when Kosack got hurt they scrapped that idea. He was on the ice for Rouyn's 5th goal last night and was publicly called out by Rumble for his dumb giveaway on the 6th goal. I agree that Sweeney has not been the same player he was last year for sure. I think a big part of that is on him, part of it is also on the coaches for changing his role. Why mess with what worked last year? the PP was better last year than this year with Sweeney on the top unit. My hunch is, the kid came back expecting to have the same role and a strong year and suddenly he was on the 2nd pair and 2nd pp and not happy about it. Not saying he is reacting the right way, but might not be all his fault. |
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 26, 2016 11:10:57 GMT -4
Maybe he was not as good as you all thought to begin with? Certainly wouldn't be the first time a defenseman in particular was greatly overvalued by Moncton fanbase Just a thought No ... he had great progression from 17 to 19 ... what you'd expect for a 1st rd pick. Last year he was playing 30 minutes a night some games because he was very reliable. He was great at lugging the puck out of our end ... used his size and reach very well, but not an overly physical player. It isn't about his offense at all. I think he has scored more goals this year from the point than he did last year ... 99% of last years goals were from the slot on the PP. Quebec wanted him for their Mem Cup team because of his strong play last year. But this year he just isn't the same player. I see flashes of last year in him from time to time ... but he regressed. He is still an important guy ... but his mistakes are getting too plentiful. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 26, 2016 11:13:46 GMT -4
Maybe he was not as good as you all thought to begin with? Certainly wouldn't be the first time a defenseman in particular was greatly overvalued by Moncton fanbase Just a thought He was very good last year. The Pp inflated his offensive numbers, but he was a very good shutdown guy playing against top lines with Johnston. |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Feb 26, 2016 15:27:17 GMT -4
Maybe he was not as good as you all thought to begin with? Certainly wouldn't be the first time a defenseman in particular was greatly overvalued by Moncton fanbase Just a thought It's not just Wildcats fans that though Sweeney was very good but ok. On another note, what a butterfly effect that Will Smith knee on Donaghey had last year. Kind of interesting to reflect on what things would look like if that knee had never happened. In goal you have Brassard instead of Bouchard and maybe Dupre is still here as the back-up. Maybe not. Either way there would have been no wasted draft picks on Fortin or Bouchard. Of course it all would have depended on how Brassard performed and I'm fairly confident he wouldn't have been as bad as Fortin and been released. On defence you have Garrett Johnston instead of Sweeney and Kosack. Also more picks are saved because there's no trade this season for Donaghey. Maybe those are spent elsewhere on another defenceman, but again it's hard to say for sure. Johnston has been better than Sweeney this season, but still a downgrade overall to not have Kosack. Up front you add Moody which is really a non-factor for the most part. Overall I think the Cats are probably better off if that trade had happened. Which is a bit odd to say considering I don't think it would have been a very good trade at all. This would have been another very short sighted move where you trade Sweeney last season and yet don't acquire any high draft picks or young players. As Billy mentioned in the other thread that's been a problem like with the Gormley trade. Not re-stocking the cupboards in any way, but instead just acquiring guys for the next season. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 26, 2016 15:56:06 GMT -4
It's not just Wildcats fans that though Sweeney was very good but ok. On another note, what a butterfly effect that Will Smith knee on Donaghey had last year. Kind of interesting to reflect on what things would look like if that knee had never happened. In goal you have Brassard instead of Bouchard and maybe Dupre is still here as the back-up. Maybe not. Either way there would have been no wasted draft picks on Fortin or Bouchard. Of course it all would have depended on how Brassard performed and I'm fairly confident he wouldn't have been as bad as Fortin and been released. On defence you have Garrett Johnston instead of Sweeney and Kosack. Also more picks are saved because there's no trade this season for Donaghey. Maybe those are spent elsewhere on another defenceman, but again it's hard to say for sure. Johnston has been better than Sweeney this season, but still a downgrade overall to not have Kosack. Up front you add Moody which is really a non-factor for the most part. Overall I think the Cats are probably better off if that trade had happened. Which is a bit odd to say considering I don't think it would have been a very good trade at all. This would have been another very short sighted move where you trade Sweeney last season and yet don't acquire any high draft picks or young players. As Billy mentioned in the other thread that's been a problem like with the Gormley trade. Not re-stocking the cupboards in any way, but instead just acquiring guys for the next season. It's almost like the team is saying arrogantly that they don't need high picks, that they can get 1st round quality players later...but inevitably, all those lost/misused draft picks really hurt. The sad part is, in 2010, they had just won 2 Presidents Cups in 4 years...and they decided to change the winning formula!!! They showed they can be good at adding Euros and FA's...why not keep your picks or add more and have a strong core from the draft PLUS Euros and FA's=winning formula. They tried to short change the rebuilt and got torched by Victo, then a half assed run this year... |
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