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Post by bumblebee on Nov 28, 2007 19:52:31 GMT -4
I mean..during last year, one of the scouts on your HPO site had Street ranked number 1...that's what I meant by a "BIG STICK".....
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Post by fireball on Nov 28, 2007 19:54:44 GMT -4
Savard Jr. and Fergueson Jr. have one thing in common the seniors were great hockey players and the Juniors are both useless in the job they are both doing with their respective teams !
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Post by lalalaprise on Nov 28, 2007 20:32:27 GMT -4
I thought that you were mentioning Street and MacLean....I think that everyone is forgetting about how Street must be feeling with this as well....he was doing very well up to this year...even your HPO site liked him.... Dont get me wrong, im surprised neither made the team...actually i was quite shocked, but there are always wacky decisions on these kind of teams. |
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Post by lalalaprise on Nov 28, 2007 20:33:55 GMT -4
I mean..during last year, one of the scouts on your HPO site had Street ranked number 1...that's what I meant by a "BIG STICK"..... I believe it was 1st among ATL Forwards... Nonetheless, we always had Street high...As high as #3 in the pre-season rankings and he was always in the 8-12 range. I felt the pick was excellent then and I think Street will develop into a good player for you, that is unless the rocket find a way of ruining him like they do so many young players. |
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Post by hockeydog on Nov 28, 2007 22:02:49 GMT -4
i believe the tryouts for this team are mandatory. does anyone know if maclean or street missed any? and the rule of 3 players from pei being gaurenteed a spot on this team , i believe , in the near future will be scrapped. each province is gaurenteed so many spots, maybe lala could break it down.
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Post by countryboy on Nov 28, 2007 23:55:18 GMT -4
The problem I have is how this all escalated which is ridiculous. Kenny MacDougall is the coach of the Team Atlantic under 17 team not Savard. And he invited kids like MacLean, Street & Waye to the tryout camp giving everyone a fair shot and Kenny took the players who he felt were the right fit. And Savard has no place to try and say who should or shouldn’t be part of that team it has nothing to do with the Rocket. IMO the Rocket drafted both MacLean and Street has nothing to do with whether or not they should be part of Team Atlantic and doesn’t make the Rocket look bad. What makes the Rocket look bad is that players taken after MacLean (and Street) like Randell, or Critchlow or Deschamp or Paradis are currently having more success. Of course it is only their first year but those are the measuring sticks not if they make the Atlantic Team. Personally, I like both Maclean and Street and think they have great potential but to me if Kenny decided that they weren’t the right fit for his team that is his decision which he would be more than capable of defending if other players taken end up struggling. Either way I say good for Kenny to not put up with that crap. I also feel bad for MacLean who is kind of an innocent victim in all of this. I am sure that he feels bad enough about not being selected without having it being discussed publically like this. I mean great for a coach/GM/Owner to support his players to but to publically complain like this is not fair to MacLean IMO. As well as I think some people misunderstand what the loss of MacDougall means to this organization. Kenny was not a dedicated PEI scout. Kenny has a full time job, he is also involved with the Summerside Capitals and some coaching for elite tournaments. What Kenny provided was some input on local players speaking as one of the most knowledgeable hockey people on the Island and he also helped out each year during Training camp. In theory it is true that scouts from NB or NS can cover the Island’s players. But Kenny was extremely knowledgeable and really knew the local players and he ended up losing that valuable resource over something stupid like and got lots of bad press to boot. Poor Management IMO. Extremely well said. I agree completely. Kenny is one of the best connected and respected hockey people among minor hockey in the province. Cutting ties with him is a bad move. cb |
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Post by rocketrumble on Nov 29, 2007 5:35:42 GMT -4
If MacDougall was actually fired (I know he quit) wouldn't he have had a case for wrongful dismissal? I mean the selection of players to a team which the rocket has no formal ties shouldn't constitute one losing his job....
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Post by IslandersHKY on Nov 29, 2007 10:31:40 GMT -4
If MacDougall was actually fired (I know he quit) wouldn't he have had a case for wrongful dismissal? I mean the selection of players to a team which the rocket has no formal ties shouldn't constitute one losing his job.... Sports is somewhat difference otherwise lots of coaches/GM's would have cases for wrongful dismissal. As well the article indicated that MacDougall submitted a letter of resignation. Still the result of Savard's action but legally speaking he wasn't fired. |
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Post by IslandersHKY on Nov 29, 2007 10:32:57 GMT -4
Anybody else think it comes off a little hypocritical/ridiculous that yesterday Savard was publically complaining about how MacLean should be on Team Atlantic but the very same day the kid didn't even dress?
At least it shows that Chouinard really does have full control of this team.
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Post by wingman on Nov 29, 2007 18:51:26 GMT -4
Anybody else think it comes off a little hypocritical/ridiculous that yesterday Savard was publically complaining about how MacLean should be on Team Atlantic but the very same day the kid didn't even dress? I was thinking the same thing before last night's game, here is Savard giving MacDougall a hard time about not selecting/playing MacLean on his team, but yet Savard's own team won't play him. I'm not sure what the arrangement was between MacDougall/Savard in regards to MacDougall's other commitments (re. the Caps, Team Atlantic, etc), but I'm failing to see the reasoning behind Savard basically firing MacDougall (a comment like "could no longer work with them in a professional manner.” sounds alot like someone being canned). I can understand him calling MacDougall and asking him why MacLean or others wasn't selected but not sure what right/expectation Savard has in regards to MacDougall's other commitments. It's almost like saying that if someone like Steve Yzerman was selecting the players for Canada's world junior team, and he didn't select a Red Wings prospect for the team. Next thing Yzerman gets a call from Ken Holland telling him that he could no longer work for the Red Wings at a professional level. Sound ridiculous? I think it does. |
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Post by joust on Nov 29, 2007 20:06:06 GMT -4
This situation is messy. Kenny wishes things were different, but they are as they are. he's a smart hockey man, and even though i agree that not having an Island scout is not that bad, Serge should have not handled this situation as he did.
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Post by stang07 on Nov 29, 2007 21:52:05 GMT -4
This is how Serge handles things. Good post wingman.....Sometimes I don't know what the hell the rocket brass are thinking  |
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