What to do?

[topcon81]

as was posted here that he could play on any team in the Q...so why cannt he play with the rocket?

[canucklehead]

dovs said:

canucklehead said:

The Sea Dogs are in 3rd and trust me I'm enjoying it ;D

I'm not saying PEI should absolutely drop and everything and go ballz to the wall in the trade market but they are capable of making some noise with an improvement on defense that's all. Gelinas is playing great right now and the scoring is there too.

I think the Rocket will end up sellers it was just a point that they could if they improved their defense but the problem is there isn't alot available.

Not sure if I have the feeling you descibed lol ;D but it sure is nice to have more points now then we did all of last year that is pretty sweet.

I think we can play with the Moose it just seems that alot of teams are almost just giving the thing to the Mooseheads.

Boy ,you are something else.To sit back here and say To these pei posters that the pei brass should make a few trades to go for it this year.I know for a fact there not that gullable to listen to you.Nothing like trying to get somebody to do the dirty work for yas

I'm something else? WTF

Maybe you should take the time to read an entire post I didn't say they should I did however say they could next time read the whole thing.

They are getting great goaltending right now from Gelinas and they have a good offense just making a point try reading it again champ

[hockeydog]

i agree. i truly think owens could play, and help this team. ive said it before. i dont know why they dont call him up, considering they help back there.

[North Shore]

topcon81 said:

as was posted here that he could play on any team in the Q...so why cannt he play with the rocket?

It was a numbers game. In Owens brief appearance he did not show better than Clow, Deighan or Malouin. The team wanted to develop the 17's. If Owens is having a good year there is a chance he could get a call if we move some defense or if speculation is right, Clow decides not to come back after Christmas.

[topcon81]

Owens is head and shoulders above Deighan and Clowe and maybe Malouin , neither of theese players come close to reading the ice as good as owens....

[topcon81]

if you played with him you would know what I am talking about.....
ask the guys from camp

[brec7]

bois said:

oh yeah forgot to mention... the Gatineau method works because they can attract free agents that contribute something the Rocket has never done

Exactly. Very few teams can actually "get away" with building to be good every year, and in order to do it you need to have a lot of factors going for you. Generally you need to have a team that gets players that other teams can't- be it good free agents, guys playing the NCAA card, or great Euros.

PEI doesn't seem to have a good reputation around the league as a place to play and until you have that you can't even dream about being competitive every year. And even for teams that are competitive every year, in 99% of case they make the big move to go after the title. Even the famous example of Lewiston standing pat last year isn't really true because they made big moves in the summer. Look at Gatineau when they won their back to back titles, they made blockbuster trades at the deadline both year.

Standing pat generally speaking doesn't work in the Q.

[countsheep]

brec7 said:

bois said:

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PEI doesn't seem to have a good reputation around the league as a place to play and until you have that you can't even dream about being competitive every year. quote]


Could you elaborate on that?

Is it team coaching/management? Non-competitive teams? Poor facility? Apathetic fans? The city? The province? The schools?

Which of these is most important, from what you've heard, or is it something else I didn't mention?

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[bois]

I think most things have been documented on this board.. but perhaps having an outsider without a shit disturbing reputation recite it will make it sink thru some people's heads.. go for it Captain Moosebrec

[countsheep]

bois said:

I think most things have been documented on this board.. but perhaps having an outsider without a shit disturbing reputation recite it will make it sink thru some people's heads.. go for it Captain Moosebrec

Actually, I don't really why players don't want to come here - honest.

...if it's true that they don't, of course.

[brec7]

Well I think bois said it best... the things documented by fans on a regular basis... if that's how the fans feel it's probably not different than the players.

I don't know if I can really elaborate.. it just doesn't "seem" like players thrive in PEI and you hear that guys aren't happy playing there.

[mboyan]

brec7 said:

PEI doesn't seem to have a good reputation around the league as a place to play and until you have that you can't even dream about being competitive every year.

brec7 said:

I don't know if I can really elaborate.. it just doesn't "seem" like players thrive in PEI and you hear that guys aren't happy playing there.

You "seem" to use that word a lot.

While there may be truth in what you are saying, isn't that true in any Q town? Unless you're on a contender, there's always someone that wants out, and even on contending teams, not everyone is always happy. I believe that in PEI, it's just been something that's been talked about on the boards......a lot! ;D

But, let's remember......sometimes things change.

I think part of the problem, in relation to players not wanting to be here (Trukhno, Gragnani would be the first two that come to mind), was the coach. Yanick Jean was certainly not the best coach to have "developing" your players.....simply because he either didn't know how, or was forced to play certain players under direct orders form Serge Jr. To that end, not only were players unhappy and wanting out, so were a lot of the fans (as evidenced by the steady decline in attendance the last few years). Sadly, some of those "dedicated" fans may never come back (unless of course, the Rocket become contenders, at which point those fans will say "I was always going to come back" ).

But, IMO, with the hiring of Chouinard as coach, and the subsequent decision to also make him DHO (including GM), the Rocket organization has taken a HUGE step towards getting this franchise back to respectability (assuming, of course, that there was some measure of respect at one time). It may take a couple of years.....it may take longer.....or it could happen this year.....who knows?

Perhaps two or three years from now, someone will be posting on here how most players want to play here. ;D

[brec7]

mboyan you're absoultely right... the fun of junior hockey is that the landscape does change. Back in CB's early days the Eagles had a TERRIBLE reputation around the league, and players just out and out not reporting was a somewhat common occurrence. Now sometimes you'll hear of guys WANTING to get drafted by CB. But we're not at the level of a Gatineau, and we probably never will be.

Of course with simple geography and politics you'll always have guys wanting to play on certain teams, be it to be closer to home, play with friends, or just play on a team that has a winning reputation. But some organisations are always going to be stronger at attracting players than others- but that doesn't mean the weaker organisations can't turn it around.

Like bois said... if there's things that you as fans have problems with in the organisation, that's probably trickling down to the players. There's a lot organisations do for players that we don't see, but if a team isn't handling its PR/fans properly chances are it could be handling its players better too.

For sure things may get better with Chouinard at the helm... but it's possible the problems may be rooted in management itself. Time will tell if there's any improvement but at least Rocket fans have reason to be optimistic.