MacMillan rumour...

[Murph]

krang7 said:

dangle said:

i heared a rumor similar to that but more of a package deal......

MacMillan, 2007 2nd rd pick and Prihdm(sp)

Morrison, Lessard and a prospect


possibility???

The rumor I heard was similar to this.

To Hal:
Morrison
Lessard

To PEI:
Pridham
O'Connor
1st round pick

Then at the draft swap the first rounder back to Halifax for MacMillan.

That's a better deal for Halifax.

But breaking down the rumor I heard.

MacMillian is worth more than Lessard straight up. Even if they both have 1.5 years left with their new team (and that's no gaurentee for Lessard), MacMillian wins out.

PEI drops in the draft what? 20-25 spots if the 2nd round picks is Rimouski's? If PEI deals Morrison, they'll probably get a first back, so that's a sacrifice PEI is probably willing to make.

Personally, I don't like either deal. MacMillian probably brings Halifax a 1st, a high end prospect and then some next December.

I like Lessard, but he could be had for O'Connor and a 2nd, and Halifax could keep MacMillian.

[dangle]

krang7 said:

dangle said:

i heared a rumor similar to that but more of a package deal......

MacMillan, 2007 2nd rd pick and Prihdm(sp)

Morrison, Lessard and a prospect


possibility???

The rumor I heard was similar to this.

To Hal:
Morrison
Lessard

To PEI:
Pridham
O'Connor
1st round pick

Then at the draft swap the first rounder back to Halifax for MacMillan.

If that goes down as llisted there not only will the moose get a solid d man if lessard but they will add another offensive weapon to their lineup which could put them over the top...

[CrazyJoeDavola]

I really dont see the need for Morrison at all, we have MacMillan, Knotek, Corsi and Marchand all able to play centre on the top 2 lines... IF we are going to move a 20 year old, I want a 20 year old D coming back not another forward...

I do want to get Lessard though...

[stratford]

crazyjoedevola said:

I really dont see the need for Morrison at all, we have MacMillan, Knotek, Corsi and Marchand all able to play centre on the top 2 lines... IF we are going to move a 20 year old, I want a 20 year old D coming back not another forward...

I do want to get Lessard though...

Maybe Knotek will move to the Rocket and Latal heads elsewhere

[bigdog1x]

Why would the Rocket want either MacMillan or Pridham.

MacMillan was/is sitting out because he is exhausted ( most likely he has a concussion )

Pridham missed half the year ( most likely ankle/foot problems )

And rumor has it that Morrison is head to Baie Comeau

If the Rocket are selling most likely it’s going to be in the Telus Division

[Score]

stratford said:

crazyjoedevola said:

I really dont see the need for Morrison at all, we have MacMillan, Knotek, Corsi and Marchand all able to play centre on the top 2 lines... IF we are going to move a 20 year old, I want a 20 year old D coming back not another forward...

I do want to get Lessard though...

Maybe Knotek will move to the Rocket and Latal heads elsewhere

Maybe a:

lessard/Latal combo

for

Knotek/ ??/ ??

Any chance?

[P-O]

Isn't the 1rst pick going to be Val D'or's property?

[lalalaprise]

poquebec said:

Isn't the 1rst pick going to be Val D'or's property?

You can deal a 2010 1st pick if its just going to end up going back anyway...

[habs24]

Isn't MacMillan damaged goods? Post concussion syndrome

[juniorcormier16]

Morrison will not go to the moose. Guy is smarter then that. He will want him at least out of the east conference. That deal would not fly Morrison and Lessard for macmillan not a good deal for the rocket I don't Think.

[Murph]

habs24 said:

Isn't MacMillan damaged goods? Post concussion syndrome

No, MacMillian does not have post-concussion syndrome. He was suffering from fatigue, and was pulled from the line up, and now is dealing with personal issues away from the rink, and is trying to sort all that out before returning to the ice.

[chsb]

murph said:

habs24 said:

Isn't MacMillan damaged goods? Post concussion syndrome

No, MacMillian does not have post-concussion syndrome. He was suffering from fatigue, and was pulled from the line up, and now is dealing with personal issues away from the rink, and is trying to sort all that out before returning to the ice.

....Some times these things take years to sort out......

[wingman]

MacMillan, 2008 2nd rd pick

for

Lessard, 2008 1st rd pick and a prospect (Clow or Mosher)

I don't like this deal for the Rocket for a couple of reasons.

If the Rocket are sellers this season by trading Morrison, Lessard etc, chances are the Rocket will finish low in the overall standings at the end of the season, which could make that 1st round pick a top 5 draft choice. That top 5 pick could be used to land us another Doyle or another Southorn. Another reason is if the prospect is someone like Clow or Mosher who could go on and become top players for Halifax, both these guys were highly touted in their draft years so the potential is there. I'm not sure what Macmillan's status is right now but if he is indeed out due to concussion or personal issues, I would want to make sure those issues are not something that will affect his play or cause him to miss long periods of time.

This trade makes alot of sense for Halifax because even though they lose MacMillan, they are still getting Marchand (supposedly) who can make up for the lost offense plus they are getting a possible very high draft choice and a prospect who could become an impact player. This trade not only helps them now but also helps them down the road too, from a Halifax point a view I think it would be a good trade.

[Murph]

wingman said:

MacMillan, 2008 2nd rd pick

for

Lessard, 2008 1st rd pick and a prospect (Clow or Mosher)

I don't like this deal for the Rocket for a couple of reasons.

If the Rocket are sellers this season by trading Morrison, Lessard etc, chances are the Rocket will finish low in the overall standings at the end of the season, which could make that 1st round pick a top 5 draft choice. That top 5 pick could be used to land us another Doyle or another Southorn. Another reason is if the prospect is someone like Clow or Mosher who could go on and become top players for Halifax, both these guys were highly touted in their draft years so the potential is there. I'm not sure what Macmillan's status is right now but if he is indeed out due to concussion or personal issues, I would want to make sure those issues are not something that will affect his play or cause him to miss long periods of time.

This trade makes alot of sense for Halifax because even though they lose MacMillan, they are still getting Marchand (supposedly) who can make up for the lost offense plus they are getting a possible very high draft choice and a prospect who could become an impact player. This trade not only helps them now but also helps them down the road too, from a Halifax point a view I think it would be a good trade.

Agree on some points. I agree the loss of MacMillian won't be felt much once Marchand arrives compared to what the team was pre-Marchand. However it's still a loss. Right now, we're Marchand and MacMillian. Much better.

I would like to pick up Lessard, but I would rather use youth and/or picks to accomplish that. I disagree with the notion that he's a good bet to play in the Q next year. He struggled to start the year, but he's coming around. A trade to a contender will only increase his chances of getting signed and making the jump next year. Not to say Lessard won't be back, but I think the odds of him returning are less than 50%.

As nice as it'll be to get a high first rounder, we'd still be out a top 25 pick (Riki's 2nd) and how great will the difference be between those two players? For one (if you play the percentages), odds are the 2nd round pick is a guy that plays as an overager, which makes him a 5 year player. Very few high 1sts end up as 5 year players, some of them only 3 years. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather the 1st than the 2nd, but I don't think the difference between the two is as large as it first appears.

You then look at MacMillian's trade value next winter. Next year, MacMillian figures to be a likely top 5 forward in the Q, possibly #1 if he can put his current troubles behind him and continue to develop the way he was. His trade value next year (a Memorial Cup year) would be through the roof. He's next year's Brad Marchand. The first rounder (actually, it's not even a straight up first...... it's a jump of about 20-25 picks) and either Clow or Mosher (or whoever) would be easily aquired by Halifax, and then some. If we were to move O'Connor and the 2nd to PEI for Lessard, and kept MacMillian...... Halifax would have a better team this year with MacMillian, and be without O'Connor, a 1st and a mid-level prospect. Well below what MacMillian would likely fetch at the deadline next year.

It's not a roses deal for Halifax, but if MacMillian has asked to be traded to PEI, then it's certainly a good deal when factoring that in.

For PEI, the deal makes a lot of sense if they plan on contending next season. If not, then they're basically hoping the difference in what they'd get for MacMillian next year, compared to Lessard this year, is greater than the prospect they'd give up in this deal, and the drop in the draft.

[juniorcormier16]

Macmillian moose would only get one good player like lessard and then prob clow or someone like that. It would be a huge steal if Morrison went plus lessard