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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 12:41:13 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Feb 15, 2019 12:41:13 GMT -4
business.financialpost.com/opinion/lawrence-solomon-remember-trumps-supposedly-lose-lose-trade-war-hes-winning-chinas-losingThat is why Chinese tourism is down in Thailand and elsewhere in SE Asia. This quote is telling considering the source - "“Put it together, and this is the best time for the American labor market in at least 18 years and maybe closer to 50,” The New York Times noted in November." While China’s demise and America’s rise can’t all or even mostly be attributed to Trump’s tariffs, the tariffs clearly hurt China’s economy more than America’s. It was a risk but a risk that had to be taken , to do nothing would have been much much worse as the point of no return was rapidly approaching when it came to China and its predatory trade strategy. China has been exposed, look at how unhinged their leadership was/is at the arrest of the Huawei CFO. Soybean farmers have been hit hard in the U.S. but when you look at the big picture, the U.S. is winning, otherwise why is China finally negotiating? Because they finally have to deal with a strong U.S. position.
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 13:18:18 GMT -4
Post by Citris on Feb 15, 2019 13:18:18 GMT -4
Booker, senator from New Jersey, wants to get rid of meat... yeah good luck on that, Spartacus. Why do Democrats/Liberals want to ruin everything? “None of us want our government or elected officials preaching to us and telling us what we can or can’t eat. This is the United States of America, and I, for one, believe in our freedom to choose. So, I don’t want to preach to anybody about their diets,” he said. -Cory Booker
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 13:53:19 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Feb 15, 2019 13:53:19 GMT -4
www.nationalreview.com/corner/corey-booker-wants-only-the-rich-to-eat-meat/"You see the planet earth moving towards what is the Standard American Diet. We’ve seen this massive increase in consumption of meat produced by the industrial animal agriculture industry. The tragic reality is this planet simply can’t sustain billions of people consuming industrially produced animal agriculture because of environmental impact. It’s just not possible, as China, as Africa move toward consuming meat the same way America does because we just don’t have enough land. The number-one reason for rainforest destruction now is animal grazing land. We see greenhouse producing gases produced; the devastating impact is just not practical. The numbers just don’t add up. We will destroy our planet unless we start figuring out a better way forward when it comes to our climate change and our environment." No, Cory, the main reason for rainforest destruction in places like Brazil, Indonesia and Malaysia is to grow sugar cane for ethanol, in Brazil, and oil palms in Indonesia and Malaysia for palm oil for use in biodiesel. And what is worse is so-called environmentalists like Booker who advocate that Western nations pay carbon taxes to buy these first-generation biofuels, they make life more expensive for the people, make rich people who are in on this stupid policy and because of the depletion of the rain forests they are actually emitting way more carbon emissions as a result!
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 14:00:54 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 15, 2019 14:00:54 GMT -4
Nobody is more sanctimonious at imposing it’s views on others than evangelicals and they backed a perpetual sinner in Trump, a guy that wouldn’t know what the inside of a church looks like, cheated on all his wives and has paid for girlfriends’ abortions!. Yet you parrot their views on the internet… Irony just died… Exactly what evangelical views am I parroting on the internet? I don't seem to remember saying anything on here about being against same-sex marriage or being pro-life. For the record on same-sex marriage, not against it however I am against forcing PRIVATE business to have to do business with same-sex couples like doing a wedding or baking a cake for example. I am for a woman's right to choose but oppose late-term abortion like some Dems are advocating for. What else should a private business get to discriminate against in your view? I'm honestly curious about how this should be handled according to the right based on the cake example. If I have the right to not bake a cake for 2 men can I also not bake one for someone due to skin color? What car they drive? What religion they practice? Or should it simply be my right to choose as the private business entity in your eyes?
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 14:02:47 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 15, 2019 14:02:47 GMT -4
Good to see American finally about to crack down on gun violence and global warming.
I mean...they're not yet...but if any Presidents "executive orders" need to be followed without proof or fact....then those with proof and fact should start to have a much easier time fixing the country.
Here that idiot Obama was trying to follow silly rules. Next Democratic president gets to really make some differences if what I am reading and hearing today is fact.
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 14:09:04 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Feb 15, 2019 14:09:04 GMT -4
Exactly what evangelical views am I parroting on the internet? I don't seem to remember saying anything on here about being against same-sex marriage or being pro-life. For the record on same-sex marriage, not against it however I am against forcing PRIVATE business to have to do business with same-sex couples like doing a wedding or baking a cake for example. I am for a woman's right to choose but oppose late-term abortion like some Dems are advocating for. What else should a private business get to discriminate against in your view? I'm honestly curious about how this should be handled according to the right based on the cake example. If I have the right to not bake a cake for 2 men can I also not bake one for someone due to skin color? What car they drive? What religion they practice? Or should it simply be my right to choose as the private business entity in your eyes? The SC actually found based on freedom of religion that a bakery owner didn't have to bake a cake for a same-sex couple based on those grounds. EDIT - when I brought up that example I should have mentioned the reason why which was freedom of religion.
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 14:22:06 GMT -4
Post by Citris on Feb 15, 2019 14:22:06 GMT -4
I'm not getting banned over this discussion, so I'll only say this - Do you really think "Corey Booker only wants the rich to eat meat" is a fair characterization of his position? and if not, do you really think an article that would run with that as not only the headline but the premise is even close to unbiased?
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 14:46:13 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 15, 2019 14:46:13 GMT -4
What else should a private business get to discriminate against in your view? I'm honestly curious about how this should be handled according to the right based on the cake example. If I have the right to not bake a cake for 2 men can I also not bake one for someone due to skin color? What car they drive? What religion they practice? Or should it simply be my right to choose as the private business entity in your eyes? The SC actually found based on freedom of religion that a bakery owner didn't have to bake a cake for a same-sex couple based on those grounds. EDIT - when I brought up that example I should have mentioned the reason why which was freedom of religion. Yes I am aware. But I asked you questions in that post about your own personal beliefs. Not what 5 people out of 9 on an appointed Supreme Court may have decided. That information is already out there. And we're also Canadian and with all due respect...have no reason to give any fucks about what American government or courts decide with some of this stuff. So what is your view of it?
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 14:56:26 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Feb 15, 2019 14:56:26 GMT -4
The SC actually found based on freedom of religion that a bakery owner didn't have to bake a cake for a same-sex couple based on those grounds. EDIT - when I brought up that example I should have mentioned the reason why which was freedom of religion. Yes I am aware. But I asked you questions in that post about your own personal beliefs. Not what 5 people out of 9 on an appointed Supreme Court may have decided. That information is already out there. And we're also Canadian and with all due respect...have no reason to give any fucks about what American government or courts decide with some of this stuff. So what is your view of it? Based upon color, totally against service being denied.
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 15:29:40 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Feb 15, 2019 15:29:40 GMT -4
I'm not getting banned over this discussion, so I'll only say this - Do you really think "Corey Booker only wants the rich to eat meat" is a fair characterization of his position? and if not, do you really think an article that would run with that as not only the headline but the premise is even close to unbiased? There is definitely some hyperbole in that headline but when you look at his desire for a carbon tax. When solar was much more expensive than fossil fuels it made economic sense, drive up the cost thru the tax. Innovation and the experience curve has brought the cost of solar power down a lot to the point where it is competitive with coal, that is why there hasn't been the boom in coal country despite the deregulation that Trump has brought in, as well as natural gas and oil for generating electricity. The economic argument is no longer there for a carbon tax, it is just a cash cow for people like Booker. It is first nature for liberals like Booker to tax anything they can- that is why I suspect that if he had the chance he would put a tax on meat to drive up the cost and reduce consumption and his argument that rain forest deforestation is due to mainly to livestock is crap, it is the planting of sugar cane in the Amazon and oil palm on the islands of Sumatra and Borneo in Indonesia and Malaysia that is the main reason to supply biofuels which is emitting more carbon thru the burning of those forests.
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 15:33:09 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 15, 2019 15:33:09 GMT -4
Yes I am aware. But I asked you questions in that post about your own personal beliefs. Not what 5 people out of 9 on an appointed Supreme Court may have decided. That information is already out there. And we're also Canadian and with all due respect...have no reason to give any fucks about what American government or courts decide with some of this stuff. So what is your view of it? Based upon color, totally against service being denied. If I own a private business should I be able to not serve someone if I believe they are a homosexual in your view?
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 15:58:56 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Feb 15, 2019 15:58:56 GMT -4
Based upon color, totally against service being denied. If I own a private business should I be able to not serve someone if I believe they are a homosexual in your view? As long as it doesn't force you to go against your religious beliefs then no, you shouldn't be able to deny service.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 15, 2019 16:18:23 GMT -4
If I own a private business should I be able to not serve someone if I believe they are a homosexual in your view? As long as it doesn't force you to go against your religious beliefs then no, you shouldn't be able to deny service. Religious beliefs is a fine line to walk. Depends on each individuals interpretation of the religion. None of which are very simple and almost 100% of which have evolved over time to either suit hate filled agendas or to try and get rid of them. I agree a church gets to set its own rules in terms of who they will marry. But if 2 dudes want to go down to city hall and get legally married I don't think it's now ok for someone to refuse to bake them a cake based on their own religious beliefs unless one of those 2 people wronged the bakery owner in some way. Religious based hate and discrimination is what we need to be removing from society not using it as a crutch to further more hate.
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 16:50:40 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Feb 15, 2019 16:50:40 GMT -4
As long as it doesn't force you to go against your religious beliefs then no, you shouldn't be able to deny service. Religious beliefs is a fine line to walk. Depends on each individuals interpretation of the religion. None of which are very simple and almost 100% of which have evolved over time to either suit hate filled agendas or to try and get rid of them. I agree a church gets to set its own rules in terms of who they will marry. But if 2 dudes want to go down to city hall and get legally married I don't think it's now ok for someone to refuse to bake them a cake based on their own religious beliefs unless one of those 2 people wronged the bakery owner in some way. Religious based hate and discrimination is what we need to be removing from society not using it as a crutch to further more hate. In regards to your last sentence I agree with that but I just don't think it is fair to force the bakery owner to violate his or her religious beliefs, just go to a different bakery. Now me on the other hand , I would gladly take the money if I was the bakery owner.
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Trump
Feb 15, 2019 16:52:54 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 15, 2019 16:52:54 GMT -4
Religious beliefs is a fine line to walk. Depends on each individuals interpretation of the religion. None of which are very simple and almost 100% of which have evolved over time to either suit hate filled agendas or to try and get rid of them. I agree a church gets to set its own rules in terms of who they will marry. But if 2 dudes want to go down to city hall and get legally married I don't think it's now ok for someone to refuse to bake them a cake based on their own religious beliefs unless one of those 2 people wronged the bakery owner in some way. Religious based hate and discrimination is what we need to be removing from society not using it as a crutch to further more hate. In regards to your last sentence I agree with that but I just don't think it is fair to force the bakery owner to violate his or her religious beliefs, just go to a different bakery. Now me on the other hand , I would gladly take the money if I was the bakery owner. Let’s be honest here, what would a cake have to do with religious beliefs? It’s a cheap PR stunt by the people that dit it.
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