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Post by Penguins23® on Aug 3, 2017 9:39:23 GMT -4
There was a time where the Wildcats were one of the highest spending teams in the league. It seems like the team is cutting a lot of corners now. Is Irving cutting the team’s budget? The Cats cut an admin position and merged it into the goalie coach position the salary for this position is apparently not great which is why it took over a month for Perricone to accept it. The Cats are also hiring a bunch of unpaid interns. moncton-wildcats.com/article/moncton-wildcats-looking-for-2017-2018-season-internsMost of those seem like it should be done by a paid employee but I don’t know much about internships. They’re no longer throwing money at Americans and can’t even get their Euro pick to report so where’s all the money going? With the pending CHLPA lawsuit, shouldn’t Irving be spending money to lower his net income a bit? There used to be a time where Irving was happy to just break even with the Wildcats but it seems now he's just trying to maximize his profits instead of using the Cats to win a championship and help his image. P.S I'm not faulting him for it. It's just an observation. |
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Post by chootoi on Aug 3, 2017 9:45:38 GMT -4
It's almost like an Irving company exists to make money.  I agree with you though. It seems like ever since Saint John was the first NB team (or atlantic team for that matter) to win the Memorial Cup (which he always said was a big goal for him), it seems like he's kind of mailed it in. At least that's when it really became noticeable for me anyways. |
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Post by islander19 on Aug 3, 2017 11:25:22 GMT -4
They are looking for an intern PA announcer and a Game Day Coordinator? Those are two important positions, surely the Irving's could afford to pay those positions atleast.
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Post by wild1 on Aug 3, 2017 11:48:13 GMT -4
I think Irving should just sell the team, he had some good runs with them, but time for new ownership and one that won't meddle too much with the hockey side of things. Sea Dogs have great ownership they hire good hockey people and let them run the team, which is what they were hired for in the first place.
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Post by hockey1981 on Aug 3, 2017 15:27:47 GMT -4
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 3, 2017 15:34:32 GMT -4
Nothing like penalizing a team then rewarding them with the Mem Cup for their efforts. How much did they profit from that? Any owner in the CHL would gladly pay the penalty after reaping the playoff runs with those players and as a part of the penalty get a Mem Cup that likely covers the fine. It's great to put in print that they were penalized but were they really penalized? Everything afterward would indicate the complete opposite. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 16:36:36 GMT -4
I think Irving should just sell the team, he had some good runs with them, but time for new ownership and one that won't meddle too much with the hockey side of things. Sea Dogs have great ownership they hire good hockey people and let them run the team, which is what they were hired for in the first place. The seadogs seem to be struggling with their own version of meddling between the business side and the hockey side so irving isn't the only one who is guilty of over stepping. |
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Post by npsh on Aug 4, 2017 20:46:58 GMT -4
There was a time where the Wildcats were one of the highest spending teams in the league. It seems like the team is cutting a lot of corners now. Is Irving cutting the team’s budget? The Cats cut an admin position and merged it into the goalie coach position the salary for this position is apparently not great which is why it took over a month for Perricone to accept it. The Cats are also hiring a bunch of unpaid interns. moncton-wildcats.com/article/moncton-wildcats-looking-for-2017-2018-season-internsMost of those seem like it should be done by a paid employee but I don’t know much about internships. They’re no longer throwing money at Americans and can’t even get their Euro pick to report so where’s all the money going? With the pending CHLPA lawsuit, shouldn’t Irving be spending money to lower his net income a bit? There used to be a time where Irving was happy to just break even with the Wildcats but it seems now he's just trying to maximize his profits instead of using the Cats to win a championship and help his image. P.S I'm not faulting him for it. It's just an observation. Unpaid interns, in other words working for Irving and not getting paid. Nuff Said! |
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Post by pivotman on Aug 5, 2017 20:25:03 GMT -4
There was a time where the Wildcats were one of the highest spending teams in the league. It seems like the team is cutting a lot of corners now. Is Irving cutting the team’s budget? The Cats cut an admin position and merged it into the goalie coach position the salary for this position is apparently not great which is why it took over a month for Perricone to accept it. The Cats are also hiring a bunch of unpaid interns. moncton-wildcats.com/article/moncton-wildcats-looking-for-2017-2018-season-internsMost of those seem like it should be done by a paid employee but I don’t know much about internships. They’re no longer throwing money at Americans and can’t even get their Euro pick to report so where’s all the money going? With the pending CHLPA lawsuit, shouldn’t Irving be spending money to lower his net income a bit? There used to be a time where Irving was happy to just break even with the Wildcats but it seems now he's just trying to maximize his profits instead of using the Cats to win a championship and help his image. P.S I'm not faulting him for it. It's just an observation. is Khovanov not reporting ? I saw on the wildcats twitter that he was. I might sound stupid saying this but it is because I don't follow the wildcat much. |
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Post by Penguins23® on Sept 6, 2017 12:59:22 GMT -4
The Knights have gotten some flack for the use of their "interns". "Unpaid internships are only permissible in Ontario when they are in exchange for academic credit or if they meet a stringent six-part test, which states they must not replace a paid job, must be of primary benefit to the intern, and must be of “little, if any, benefit” to the employer, according to the Ministry of Labour." That's the Ontario law, I wonder what the New Brunswick law is. |
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 6, 2017 13:07:58 GMT -4
The Knights have gotten some flack for the use of their "interns". "Unpaid internships are only permissible in Ontario when they are in exchange for academic credit or if they meet a stringent six-part test, which states they must not replace a paid job, must be of primary benefit to the intern, and must be of “little, if any, benefit” to the employer, according to the Ministry of Labour." That's the Ontario law, I wonder what the New Brunswick law is. Interns is not really a concept that NB companies have utilized that I am aware of. They often hire students as part of a Co-Op program which forms part of their school credits, but they are typically paid for the work they do. My son was on a Co-Op program this summer in Ottawa and was paid very well for 4 months. |
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Post by jimmy on Sept 6, 2017 13:44:56 GMT -4
The Knights have gotten some flack for the use of their "interns". "Unpaid internships are only permissible in Ontario when they are in exchange for academic credit or if they meet a stringent six-part test, which states they must not replace a paid job, must be of primary benefit to the intern, and must be of “little, if any, benefit” to the employer, according to the Ministry of Labour." That's the Ontario law, I wonder what the New Brunswick law is. Interns is not really a concept that NB companies have utilized that I am aware of. They often hire students as part of a Co-Op program which forms part of their school credits, but they are typically paid for the work they do. My son was on a Co-Op program this summer in Ottawa and was paid very well for 4 months. Unpaid internships are definitely floating around in NB ... several local colleges and universities are always looking to place students for unpaid work terms to form part of their school credits. Murky area of employment law - as an employer, I can say that this is typically more of a learning / job shadowing experience than it is productive work for my business - if anything, in many cases, it slows down whatever staff has to spend the time training and assisting the student. That said, by the end of the internship, you sometimes have a potential employee who is close to trained and ready to start work at that point - we have hired some in the past at the end of their co-op term and began paying them at that point. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 6, 2017 13:53:26 GMT -4
Interns is not really a concept that NB companies have utilized that I am aware of. They often hire students as part of a Co-Op program which forms part of their school credits, but they are typically paid for the work they do. My son was on a Co-Op program this summer in Ottawa and was paid very well for 4 months. Unpaid internships are definitely floating around in NB ... several local colleges and universities are always looking to place students for unpaid work terms to form part of their school credits. Murky area of employment law - as an employer, I can say that this is typically more of a learning / job shadowing experience than it is productive work for my business - if anything, in many cases, it slows down whatever staff has to spend the time training and assisting the student. That said, by the end of the internship, you sometimes have a potential employee who is close to trained and ready to start work at that point - we have hired some in the past at the end of their co-op term and began paying them at that point. Unless the students/interns are just watching, they should at least get minimum wage. Especially if it's 1-2 month long time period. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 6, 2017 14:16:20 GMT -4
Unpaid internships are definitely floating around in NB ... several local colleges and universities are always looking to place students for unpaid work terms to form part of their school credits. Murky area of employment law - as an employer, I can say that this is typically more of a learning / job shadowing experience than it is productive work for my business - if anything, in many cases, it slows down whatever staff has to spend the time training and assisting the student. That said, by the end of the internship, you sometimes have a potential employee who is close to trained and ready to start work at that point - we have hired some in the past at the end of their co-op term and began paying them at that point. Unless the students/interns are just watching, they should at least get minimum wage. Especially if it's 1-2 month long time period. It's not that simple. Every job is different. As others have mentioned there can be a downside to the business for allowing them to shadow so paying for less efficiency might not be good for the business which may not want the next students to come in which in turn hurts the school and future students. |
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Post by Penguins23® on Sept 6, 2017 14:32:28 GMT -4
I assume the NB law isn't far off from the Ontario one so if it's for a school credit then no problem. Happens all the time.
This is totally different. This is a company looking for cheap labour by posting jobs that don't otherwise exist. I would assume the Wildcats have done their homework on this but I mean the CFL tried it and the postings got shut down due to being called out by the Toronto Star so if they tried it without much research then maybe the Cats did too. Seems like bad timing too with all the CHL Labour talks.
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