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Post by SteveUL on Mar 2, 2018 9:48:43 GMT -4
Is no one else totally shocked by the student price for the season tickets. For children I understand ( say 13 and under) but when a student could also be a 25 year old university student, why as a 35 year old adult am I payin 4 times what they pay, that is flat out ridiculous. Now let me say I am not expecting the adult season ticket to drop to $200 by any means, I am happy with the minimal increase to adult tickets, I just can’t understand how an adult in university ( considered a student) will get such an insane price discount.. do they value them more than myself who has shelled out long since 95 as a season ticket holder?? Also has anyone heard any info on seat selection. It is my understanding that we will not be able to enter the events centre to select our seats/ area and must do it based on photos. I don’t know about you but I am very hesitant to invest up to $1100 dollar on a. Seat I pick in photos sight unseen, that’s a big ask. What if the railing is too high in the first rows above the retwctables, what if the railing is too high for sight lines in the new wheelchair section, what if the seat you choose blocks your view of the corner on the same side you sit? I don't know what "retwctables" are. Students have no money to spend ... but they bring youthful energy to the rink. While they are still a "card carrying" student they get the big break ... but once they leave the shelter of academia and start to actually be a taxpayer then they pay full price. I think the idea is to get them hooked as a student and hopefully get some of them to buy season tickets later on. But really ... what student is buying a season ticket ? They aren't ... their parents are buying ... and the parents probably already have at least one adult season ticket and so they get the break for being a big supporter. There are loads of questions that could be asked about why one group gets a better deal. Many Seniors are wealthy and retired with very few bills ... while many others are on social assistance and barely surviving. Its tough to fine tune the groups to "rich seniors" and "poor seniors". Many adults are supporting young families and can't afford a season ticket ... can't afford to take the family to more than 3 games a year. It doesn't matter ... this is the cost structure. It doesn't suit you well today but maybe in a few years it will.
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Post by tal on Mar 2, 2018 9:54:11 GMT -4
What were they last year ? That is $14.11 per game for an adult ticket ... based on 34 home games. $12.15 per game senior. I don't find those rates outrageous. Edit: Oops ... forgot the tax ... make that $16.23 adult ... $13.97 Senior. No, those prices including tax are not outrageous in my view. It is a new facility so stands to reason per ticket and STH costs would increase. Also if you want premium seating it will be more expensive. That is industry standard no matter what. No, those prices aren't outrageous, but those would be the season tickets in the corners or end, I would assume (based on the seating chart that was linked). The Center B and Center A seats will be more expensive - and to me that's the real telling point. I would need to actually sit in a corner seat before I'd shell out money for one - some of the corner seats in the coliseum are incredibly cramped. In comparison, a seat in Center B would be fine, I'm sure, but at how much extra cost? I find it frustrating that today is the cutoff to retain season seats for playoff packages, and unused games can only be used towards next year's season tickets, but we still don't know how much those will be.
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Post by npsh on Mar 2, 2018 10:07:59 GMT -4
No, those prices including tax are not outrageous in my view. It is a new facility so stands to reason per ticket and STH costs would increase. Also if you want premium seating it will be more expensive. That is industry standard no matter what. Plus any parking fees of course ... (sits back and waits for the blowup) Parking charges are industry standard as well. If one doesn’t want to pay either(parking and admission) redress is simple - don’t attend. I bet you will agree.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 2, 2018 10:16:33 GMT -4
Plus any parking fees of course ... (sits back and waits for the blowup) Parking charges are industry standard as well. If one doesn’t want to pay either(parking and admission) redress is simple - don’t attend. I bet you will agree. Absolutely! But there will be free options for parking. On-street parking is free in the downtown after 6:00 PM ... is it not ?
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Post by Doublesnipers on Mar 2, 2018 10:22:32 GMT -4
Is no one else totally shocked by the student price for the season tickets. For children I understand ( say 13 and under) but when a student could also be a 25 year old university student, why as a 35 year old adult am I payin 4 times what they pay, that is flat out ridiculous. Now let me say I am not expecting the adult season ticket to drop to $200 by any means, I am happy with the minimal increase to adult tickets, I just can’t understand how an adult in university ( considered a student) will get such an insane price discount.. do they value them more than myself who has shelled out long since 95 as a season ticket holder?? Also has anyone heard any info on seat selection. It is my understanding that we will not be able to enter the events centre to select our seats/ area and must do it based on photos. I don’t know about you but I am very hesitant to invest up to $1100 dollar on a. Seat I pick in photos sight unseen, that’s a big ask. What if the railing is too high in the first rows above the retwctables, what if the railing is too high for sight lines in the new wheelchair section, what if the seat you choose blocks your view of the corner on the same side you sit? I don't know what "retwctables" are. Students have no money to spend ... but they bring youthful energy to the rink. While they are still a "card carrying" student they get the big break ... but once they leave the shelter of academia and start to actually be a taxpayer then they pay full price. I think the idea is to get them hooked as a student and hopefully get some of them to buy season tickets later on. But really ... what student is buying a season ticket ? They aren't ... their parents are buying ... and the parents probably already have at least one adult season ticket and so they get the break for being a big supporter. There are loads of questions that could be asked about why one group gets a better deal. Many Seniors are wealthy and retired with very few bills ... while many others are on social assistance and barely surviving. Its tough to fine tune the groups to "rich seniors" and "poor seniors". Many adults are supporting young families and can't afford a season ticket ... can't afford to take the family to more than 3 games a year. It doesn't matter ... this is the cost structure. It doesn't suit you well today but maybe in a few years it will. Sorry Steve I forgot I have the spelling police on speed dial on these boards. At the wildcats attacking end, half of the seats (lower like 15 rows) are “retractable” seats for concert stage setup etc and not permanent fixed seats. They have a railing installed above those retractable bleachers before first row of of fixed seats on the ends. I was also under the impression that the $480 plus tax was the standard price for most of the rink. How the hell do you justify asking for more ( we don’t know exact amount) to sit in the center sections unless there is a recognizable advantage. If these are club seats for example, no problem you are getting extra perks, you know you need to pay for those perks. However if you simply want to sit in the middle of the rink open like you have for 20 years at the coliseum ( sections 23-24 or 11-12) why do they want more for the season ticket than on the ends? The price was $438 per adult this year regardless of where you sat, section 17 or section 24, unless there was extras offered ( club seats for example). To me the wildcats are just further alienating a very sensitive subject as it is( if true on the “financial classes of seating”) with regards to trying to get your season ticket fan base on board to move down to new arena. It’s one thing to tell Tom in section 19 ok you will pay $50 more for your season ticket next year( not a deal breaker, expected with new infrastructure and experience) but it is quite another to tell Jeff in section 24 that for a similar seat he now has to pay hundreds more.... This is getting more frustrating by the day as they begin to actually give us information.
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Post by Penguins23® on Mar 2, 2018 10:46:05 GMT -4
I don't know what "retwctables" are. Students have no money to spend ... but they bring youthful energy to the rink. While they are still a "card carrying" student they get the big break ... but once they leave the shelter of academia and start to actually be a taxpayer then they pay full price. I think the idea is to get them hooked as a student and hopefully get some of them to buy season tickets later on. But really ... what student is buying a season ticket ? They aren't ... their parents are buying ... and the parents probably already have at least one adult season ticket and so they get the break for being a big supporter. There are loads of questions that could be asked about why one group gets a better deal. Many Seniors are wealthy and retired with very few bills ... while many others are on social assistance and barely surviving. Its tough to fine tune the groups to "rich seniors" and "poor seniors". Many adults are supporting young families and can't afford a season ticket ... can't afford to take the family to more than 3 games a year. It doesn't matter ... this is the cost structure. It doesn't suit you well today but maybe in a few years it will. Sorry Steve I forgot I have the spelling police on speed dial on these boards. At the wildcats attacking end, half of the seats (lower like 15 rows) are “retractable” seats for concert stage setup etc and not permanent fixed seats. They have a railing installed above those retractable bleachers before first row of of fixed seats on the ends. I was also under the impression that the $480 plus tax was the standard price for most of the rink. How the hell do you justify asking for more ( we don’t know exact amount) to sit in the center sections unless there is a recognizable advantage. If these are club seats for example, no problem you are getting extra perks, you know you need to pay for those perks. However if you simply want to sit in the middle of the rink open like you have for 20 years at the coliseum ( sections 23-24 or 11-12) why do they want more for the season ticket than on the ends? The price was $438 per adult this year regardless of where you sat, section 17 or section 24, unless there was extras offered ( club seats for example). To me the wildcats are just further alienating a very sensitive subject as it is( if true on the “financial classes of seating”) with regards to trying to get your season ticket fan base on board to move down to new arena. It’s one thing to tell Tom in section 19 ok you will pay $50 more for your season ticket next year( not a deal breaker, expected with new infrastructure and experience) but it is quite another to tell Jeff in section 24 that for a similar seat he now has to pay hundreds more.... This is getting more frustrating by the day as they begin to actually give us information. We need to let the Coliseum go. The Wildcats and the City of Moncton are trying to become bigger and better. Trying to be like the big boys. Go find me a North American Professional Sports team(MLB,NHL,NFL,NBA) that doesn't have different prices based on seating. As someone said, the Cats like to mimic the Seadogs and they also do this.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 2, 2018 10:50:19 GMT -4
Sorry Steve I forgot I have the spelling police on speed dial on these boards. At the wildcats attacking end, half of the seats (lower like 15 rows) are “retractable” seats for concert stage setup etc and not permanent fixed seats. They have a railing installed above those retractable bleachers before first row of of fixed seats on the ends. I was also under the impression that the $480 plus tax was the standard price for most of the rink. How the hell do you justify asking for more ( we don’t know exact amount) to sit in the center sections unless there is a recognizable advantage. If these are club seats for example, no problem you are getting extra perks, you know you need to pay for those perks. However if you simply want to sit in the middle of the rink open like you have for 20 years at the coliseum ( sections 23-24 or 11-12) why do they want more for the season ticket than on the ends? The price was $438 per adult this year regardless of where you sat, section 17 or section 24, unless there was extras offered ( club seats for example). To me the wildcats are just further alienating a very sensitive subject as it is( if true on the “financial classes of seating”) with regards to trying to get your season ticket fan base on board to move down to new arena. It’s one thing to tell Tom in section 19 ok you will pay $50 more for your season ticket next year( not a deal breaker, expected with new infrastructure and experience) but it is quite another to tell Jeff in section 24 that for a similar seat he now has to pay hundreds more.... This is getting more frustrating by the day as they begin to actually give us information. We need to let the Coliseum go. The Wildcats and the City of Moncton are trying to become bigger and better. Trying to be like the big boys. Go find me a North American Professional Sports team(MLB,NHL,NFL,NBA) that doesn't have different prices based on seating. As someone said, the Cats like to mimic the Seadogs and they also do this. Some NA pro sports team have different prices just based on the opponent ... but season ticket holders pay the same price for their seat for every game.
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Post by chootoi on Mar 2, 2018 10:58:03 GMT -4
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 2, 2018 11:08:05 GMT -4
I don't know what "retwctables" are. Students have no money to spend ... but they bring youthful energy to the rink. While they are still a "card carrying" student they get the big break ... but once they leave the shelter of academia and start to actually be a taxpayer then they pay full price. I think the idea is to get them hooked as a student and hopefully get some of them to buy season tickets later on. But really ... what student is buying a season ticket ? They aren't ... their parents are buying ... and the parents probably already have at least one adult season ticket and so they get the break for being a big supporter. There are loads of questions that could be asked about why one group gets a better deal. Many Seniors are wealthy and retired with very few bills ... while many others are on social assistance and barely surviving. Its tough to fine tune the groups to "rich seniors" and "poor seniors". Many adults are supporting young families and can't afford a season ticket ... can't afford to take the family to more than 3 games a year. It doesn't matter ... this is the cost structure. It doesn't suit you well today but maybe in a few years it will. Sorry Steve I forgot I have the spelling police on speed dial on these boards. At the wildcats attacking end, half of the seats (lower like 15 rows) are “retractable” seats for concert stage setup etc and not permanent fixed seats. They have a railing installed above those retractable bleachers before first row of of fixed seats on the ends. I was also under the impression that the $480 plus tax was the standard price for most of the rink. How the hell do you justify asking for more ( we don’t know exact amount) to sit in the center sections unless there is a recognizable advantage. If these are club seats for example, no problem you are getting extra perks, you know you need to pay for those perks. However if you simply want to sit in the middle of the rink open like you have for 20 years at the coliseum ( sections 23-24 or 11-12) why do they want more for the season ticket than on the ends? The price was $438 per adult this year regardless of where you sat, section 17 or section 24, unless there was extras offered ( club seats for example). To me the wildcats are just further alienating a very sensitive subject as it is( if true on the “financial classes of seating”) with regards to trying to get your season ticket fan base on board to move down to new arena. It’s one thing to tell Tom in section 19 ok you will pay $50 more for your season ticket next year( not a deal breaker, expected with new infrastructure and experience) but it is quite another to tell Jeff in section 24 that for a similar seat he now has to pay hundreds more.... This is getting more frustrating by the day as they begin to actually give us information. You thought you were going to get a brand new state of the art modern facility without the modern pricing to match? Paying more for certain area of a rink is par for the course in newer buildings. That's where the revenue growth comes from. It's unfortunate that person A will get a $50 yearly increase for the same seat and person B will get a $500 increase due to a club seating setup while person C may get $0 increase for their upper bowl seat but that's the reality you knew was coming from the minute a shovel went into the ground. In exchange for the revenue increase and the modern rink you will get a better product on the ice then most of us will have over a comparable period, likely many large concert and entertainment shows that will bring many of us into your city that traditionally would have ended up in Halifax or needing to go to Montreal to see it. You're never going to win the battle that people will be alienated by any pricing. The upside to that is way too high to be ignored because of the money crunch some people will have with something new. That's just how society works. I'm sure the team knew moving downtown meant a bit of a demographic shift in its customer base.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 2, 2018 11:10:53 GMT -4
We need to let the Coliseum go. The Wildcats and the City of Moncton are trying to become bigger and better. Trying to be like the big boys. Go find me a North American Professional Sports team(MLB,NHL,NFL,NBA) that doesn't have different prices based on seating. As someone said, the Cats like to mimic the Seadogs and they also do this. Some NA pro sports team have different prices just based on the opponent ... but season ticket holders pay the same price for their seat for every game. Yeah dynamic pricing is in play and makes a ton of sense as there is higher demand for certain opponents or even day of the week. A Wednesday night hockey game in Toronto will cost you half of a Saturday game in some cases. A Blue Jays/Yankees weekend series is more then a Jays/White Sox Tuesday night game. And in the Q I think it does makes sense for a Friday night rivalry game to be a few bucks more then a Tuesday night random Quebec based opponent game in terms of the price someone walking up to the building pays.
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Post by Doublesnipers on Mar 2, 2018 11:13:44 GMT -4
It is all good and easy to type that, but it is quite another to convince a fan that the seat they have had is now worth double then what they have paid for the last x amount of years. Forget parking, This will be what drives your season ticket holders away. We will either be a rink of fans filling the ends or simply saying it has become unaffordable.
I am not arguing for myself, I am one of the ones who happily sits on the ends (the attacking end)I am more concerned with the fact that in order to get a similar seat to where I am now I either have to A sit in a retractable row ( don’t even think those are available) or B sit very high up and possibly behind a rail in the permanent seats behind the retractables. Doesn’t sound like an improvement in game experience to me( with all the hype of great sight lines throughout)
I find it very surprising that so many of you are so casually willing to say it’s to be expected, everywhere else does it, no biggie. I’m not sure what you all do for a living ( are you all doctors? Lawyers? ) who can go form section 24 at $438 plus tax to ( again it’s assumptions as we don’t know for sure) possibly double for same area. It just isn’t financially acceptable to demand that of your clientele, sorry, you are overestimating the flexibility of your population.
I am sure there are some with the disposable income to swallow a 100% or more inflation rate for similar seat but i guarantee it isn’t the masses.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 2, 2018 11:19:04 GMT -4
It is all good and easy to type that, but it is quite another to convince a fan that the seat they have had is now worth double then what they have paid for the last x amount of years. Forget parking, This will be what drives your season ticket holders away. We will either be a rink of fans filling the ends or simply saying it has become unaffordable. I am not arguing for myself, I am one of the ones who happily sits on the ends (the attacking end)I am more concerned with the fact that in order to get a similar seat to where I am now I either have to A sit in a retractable row ( don’t even think those are available) or B sit very high up and possibly behind a rail in the permanent seats behind the retractables. Doesn’t sound like an improvement in game experience to me( with all the hype of great sight lines throughout) I find it very surprising that so many of you are so casually willing to say it’s to be expected, everywhere else does it, no biggie. I’m not sure what you all do for a living ( are you all doctors? Lawyers? ) who can go form section 24 at $438 plus tax to ( again it’s assumptions as we don’t know for sure) possibly double for same area. It just isn’t financially acceptable to demand that of your clientele, sorry, you are overestimating the flexibility of your population. I am sure there are some with the disposable income to swallow a 100% or more inflation rate for similar seat but i guarantee it isn’t the masses. It's not about convincing anyone. If the new pricing is too much for someone then someone else will end up replacing them as a ticket buyer. Shifts in demographics is assumed when big changes like this happen. You can't please everyone. If you can't afford the new prices then don't pay them. But don't get upset when someone else does. That's life in a nutshell. Society can't not evolve and build new things because prices will be higher. They're always going to be higher. But we also need new things as we continue to move forward. There is no magic solution. But you seem to be missing that keeping things as they were forever was never going to happen. And many are embracing the change and looking forward to spending a little bit more but feeling like they're getting more for it in terms of what the building will bring to your city. You're kidding yourself if you think your rink will only have people in ends crying about the expensive club seating.
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Post by Doublesnipers on Mar 2, 2018 11:28:05 GMT -4
Sorry Steve I forgot I have the spelling police on speed dial on these boards. At the wildcats attacking end, half of the seats (lower like 15 rows) are “retractable” seats for concert stage setup etc and not permanent fixed seats. They have a railing installed above those retractable bleachers before first row of of fixed seats on the ends. I was also under the impression that the $480 plus tax was the standard price for most of the rink. How the hell do you justify asking for more ( we don’t know exact amount) to sit in the center sections unless there is a recognizable advantage. If these are club seats for example, no problem you are getting extra perks, you know you need to pay for those perks. However if you simply want to sit in the middle of the rink open like you have for 20 years at the coliseum ( sections 23-24 or 11-12) why do they want more for the season ticket than on the ends? The price was $438 per adult this year regardless of where you sat, section 17 or section 24, unless there was extras offered ( club seats for example). To me the wildcats are just further alienating a very sensitive subject as it is( if true on the “financial classes of seating”) with regards to trying to get your season ticket fan base on board to move down to new arena. It’s one thing to tell Tom in section 19 ok you will pay $50 more for your season ticket next year( not a deal breaker, expected with new infrastructure and experience) but it is quite another to tell Jeff in section 24 that for a similar seat he now has to pay hundreds more.... This is getting more frustrating by the day as they begin to actually give us information. You thought you were going to get a brand new state of the art modern facility without the modern pricing to match? Paying more for certain area of a rink is par for the course in newer buildings. That's where the revenue growth comes from. It's unfortunate that person A will get a $50 yearly increase for the same seat and person B will get a $500 increase due to a club seating setup while person C may get $0 increase for their upper bowl seat but that's the reality you knew was coming from the minute a shovel went into the ground. In exchange for the revenue increase and the modern rink you will get a better product on the ice then most of us will have over a comparable period, likely many large concert and entertainment shows that will bring many of us into your city that traditionally would have ended up in Halifax or needing to go to Montreal to see it. You're never going to win the battle that people will be alienated by any pricing. The upside to that is way too high to be ignored because of the money crunch some people will have with something new. That's just how society works. I'm sure the team knew moving downtown meant a bit of a demographic shift in its customer base. I’m just really surprised I am sitting in the minority here, like have all of you just been to that many NHL,NFL games etc ( and I haven’t)to just expect it? I mean it’s one thing if it was always there ( your rink wasn’t always these prices) but this is a substantial ask. It’s like being told your power bill was 100$ but next month it’s a $1000. Are they comfortable having that many people walk away? Are they that certain they will make up the numbers lost with new viewers? Is it worth it to go from 3000 season ticket holders to 12000 at the inflated price ? I cant believe the masses really know this yet.. We all expected an increase I get it but honestly maybe it’s my lack of experiences at other rinks but I never expected the type of price gap that is being suggested for regular seats around the rink ( that aren’t sky boxes, or club seats with service etc) Keep in mind when I was talking to our ticket sales guy in front of the poster board he was trying to push all season ticket holders toward the middle sections. ( as season ticket holders, he said something about creating the atmosphere, rink looking more full). So essentially you want all of your 3000 season ticket holders in the more expensive seat and not let them choose where to sit in the rink??
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Post by lirette on Mar 2, 2018 11:32:27 GMT -4
It is all good and easy to type that, but it is quite another to convince a fan that the seat they have had is now worth double then what they have paid for the last x amount of years. Forget parking, This will be what drives your season ticket holders away. We will either be a rink of fans filling the ends or simply saying it has become unaffordable. I am not arguing for myself, I am one of the ones who happily sits on the ends (the attacking end)I am more concerned with the fact that in order to get a similar seat to where I am now I either have to A sit in a retractable row ( don’t even think those are available) or B sit very high up and possibly behind a rail in the permanent seats behind the retractables. Doesn’t sound like an improvement in game experience to me( with all the hype of great sight lines throughout) I find it very surprising that so many of you are so casually willing to say it’s to be expected, everywhere else does it, no biggie. I’m not sure what you all do for a living ( are you all doctors? Lawyers? ) who can go form section 24 at $438 plus tax to ( again it’s assumptions as we don’t know for sure) possibly double for same area. It just isn’t financially acceptable to demand that of your clientele, sorry, you are overestimating the flexibility of your population. I am sure there are some with the disposable income to swallow a 100% or more inflation rate for similar seat but i guarantee it isn’t the masses. Where are you getting double the price? If you are just referring to club seats that is a whole different situation in a arena like this. The club seat gives you first right of refusal to ANY event this arena has. Meaning if Ed Sheeran comes and plays the events centre you can buy your centre ice club seat without having to go online and wait in a queue. If the world jrs come here you can have your centre ice club seat without any worry (if you can afford it) that someone else will take it and you can access the VIP lounge with floor to ceiling windows hanging out with the rest of the important club seat owners. I'm sorry you don't see the value in that today, but a current club seat owner in the coliseum is not getting this same benefit. The only seated events in the coliseum from now till June is Magic and Wildcats games, some sort of bull riders rodeo event. These club seats are going to sell, I've read on another forum almost all of the luxury boxes are already sold, with plans to only have 2 available to rent. Apparently they are 55K a year. There's more people in Moncton with $$ than you probably think, but now they have a fancy place to spend it. Independant business can write off some of these costs for taxes so they dont even care.. No one was taking their clients to the Moncton Coliseum to impress them, it would probably do the opposite. "Hey client do you want to drive out with me to this industrial part of town with a gun store across the street and 99 cent hot dogs? If you wear a suit you can lose about 5-10 pounds in sweat" I think you are overreacting for no reason. The increase for most regular seats is likely to be $50-$100 if you compare it against the sea dogs increase by section for example. Thats a mere 3-4$ a game to sit in an arena that is superior in every single way to the current coliseum other than free convenient parking
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Post by Doublesnipers on Mar 2, 2018 11:34:57 GMT -4
It is all good and easy to type that, but it is quite another to convince a fan that the seat they have had is now worth double then what they have paid for the last x amount of years. Forget parking, This will be what drives your season ticket holders away. We will either be a rink of fans filling the ends or simply saying it has become unaffordable. I am not arguing for myself, I am one of the ones who happily sits on the ends (the attacking end)I am more concerned with the fact that in order to get a similar seat to where I am now I either have to A sit in a retractable row ( don’t even think those are available) or B sit very high up and possibly behind a rail in the permanent seats behind the retractables. Doesn’t sound like an improvement in game experience to me( with all the hype of great sight lines throughout) I find it very surprising that so many of you are so casually willing to say it’s to be expected, everywhere else does it, no biggie. I’m not sure what you all do for a living ( are you all doctors? Lawyers? ) who can go form section 24 at $438 plus tax to ( again it’s assumptions as we don’t know for sure) possibly double for same area. It just isn’t financially acceptable to demand that of your clientele, sorry, you are overestimating the flexibility of your population. I am sure there are some with the disposable income to swallow a 100% or more inflation rate for similar seat but i guarantee it isn’t the masses. It's not about convincing anyone. If the new pricing is too much for someone then someone else will end up replacing them as a ticket buyer. Shifts in demographics is assumed when big changes like this happen. You can't please everyone. If you can't afford the new prices then don't pay them. But don't get upset when someone else does. That's life in a nutshell. Society can't not evolve and build new things because prices will be higher. They're always going to be higher. But we also need new things as we continue to move forward. There is no magic solution. But you seem to be missing that keeping things as they were forever was never going to happen. And many are embracing the change and looking forward to spending a little bit more but feeling like they're getting more for it in terms of what the building will bring to your city. You're kidding yourself if you think your rink will only have people in ends crying about the expensive club seating. I am seeing what your are saying but at the same time if that statement were true Jack why in the world do we only have 3000 season ticket holders at the price of measly pennies of $438 plus tax? Where are all these rich folk gonna come out of the wood work to “take my seat” at up to $1200 as you put it when they wouldn’t pay for the product when it was a third of that? If that were true then we should have people on waiting lists for season tickets, the rink sold out etc. It isn’t like that and we aren’t going to magically find that many new fans with that kind of disposable income to accept it. ( I don’t believe anyway) This isn’t an NHL rink like the Bell centre with almost whole building season ticket holders there. The demand isn’t the same thing here. Does Irving continue to keep a team if he can only put 3000 people in stands after the year one excitement wears off? It has to remain affordable
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