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Post by Shannon's burner account on Oct 16, 2017 18:21:12 GMT -4
Who here had the Cats being 1st overall at this point in the season?
Now that we have a bit bigger of a sample size (11games) to go by:
-Cat are leading in goals with 45
I thought they would have trouble scoring without Khovanov and Miromanov
-Cats have not been great on the PP 10 for 54 = 18.5% which puts them 11th overall
-Mckenna-Cyr-Pelletier line has scored 21 of 45 goals = 46%
-Arguably the top sniper on this team, Anderson Macdonald has 2 goals in 8gms (both came in same game on the PP)
-Dylan Seitz has 6pts in 6gms since joining the Cats
Looking like a good pickup so far
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Post by lirette on Oct 16, 2017 18:28:28 GMT -4
If you look at MacDonalds game by game last season he seems to score in bunches (3 hat tricks). He still seems to look a little lost out there timing/decision making wise. His production to this point has been a little frustrating goal wise but I think he'll come around. He has a great shot and hasn't necessarily been getting the chances to use it. Once/If Miromanov joins that line having a good shot on each side of Tessier should really help him out.
As much as it'd be interesting to see how he does with Cyr/McKenna you cannot break that line up. He lost his spot on the top PP so perhaps that will spark him abit. He's still only 17.
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Post by Penguins23® on Oct 17, 2017 6:57:00 GMT -4
Does this hot start scare anyone else or just me? If the trade deadline was today we'd be trading Pelletier as a future.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 17, 2017 7:04:29 GMT -4
Does this hot start scare anyone else or just me? If the trade deadline was today we'd be trading Pelletier as a future. One think that should cause people to pump the brakes is...Out of 11 games, they have played PEI twice and Saint john 3 times. Those two are a combined 6-12-3 so far. as you said, hopefully they don't change their plan of a true rebuild. They look better than anticipated for sure. |
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 17, 2017 9:22:47 GMT -4
Does this hot start scare anyone else or just me? If the trade deadline was today we'd be trading Pelletier as a future. I highly doubt that. I think Irving's goal is to host the Memorial Cup next year (I don't think we are the odds on favourite for that), and to do that we need to be strong next year. Dealing Pelletier would make no sense if that is the goal. I think if we were trading futures it would be MacDonald, and possibly Cyr or Mckenna ... which again does not align with the goal. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 17, 2017 9:52:09 GMT -4
Does this hot start scare anyone else or just me? If the trade deadline was today we'd be trading Pelletier as a future. I highly doubt that. I think Irving's goal is to host the Memorial Cup next year (I don't think we are the odds on favourite for that), and to do that we need to be strong next year. Dealing Pelletier would make no sense if that is the goal. I think if we were trading futures it would be MacDonald, and possibly Cyr or Mckenna ... which again does not align with the goal. The ideal scenario is to move welsh Grametbauer and Tessier for big return...including futures/young players that can help next year. |
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 17, 2017 10:31:34 GMT -4
I highly doubt that. I think Irving's goal is to host the Memorial Cup next year (I don't think we are the odds on favourite for that), and to do that we need to be strong next year. Dealing Pelletier would make no sense if that is the goal. I think if we were trading futures it would be MacDonald, and possibly Cyr or Mckenna ... which again does not align with the goal. The ideal scenario is to move welsh Grametbauer and Tessier for big return...including futures/young players that can help next year. Sure ... but the whole premise here is that our quick start will change the mind of Irving ... and we foolishly become buyers instead of sellers. I'm with you ... ideally we are sellers on Grametbauer and Tessier and Welsh ... and perhaps Miromanov if he comes and has a good start. Dunda might also attract some lesser interest for a team looking to add checking depth (smaller return though). I don't think they'll sell everybody that is 19 and 20 unless they get great offers. We'll need three 20s for next year. We'll also need a goaltender this year if we deal Grametbauer and Waite is not ready come December. |
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Post by wild1 on Oct 17, 2017 11:37:06 GMT -4
Robert Irving while being a good owner in some ways, he spends the money when needed and makes sure the players have all the training and everything else they need, but at the same time he is the biggest detriment to the team with this go for it every year mentality. The Irving people cannot accept ever being down for too long, but in junior hockey most if not all teams will experience 2-3 years of being near the bottom in order to build strong teams for the next 2-3 years. I spoke with a former Wildcat employee this summer who now works for another organization and he told me himself that Robert Irving thinks it is easy to rebuild just by adding free agents, so to me that told me what I thought all along, Irving is for sure a meddler and won't let the people he hired to run the team do their jobs.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 17, 2017 16:04:18 GMT -4
I spoke with a former Wildcat employee this summer who now works for another organization and he told me himself that Robert Irving thinks it is easy to rebuild just by adding free agents, so to me that told me what I thought all along, Irving is for sure a meddler and won't let the people he hired to run the team do their jobs. That whole approach has to assume that all other teams (OHL, WHL, etc.) missed the boat on the FAs. However, with the population rich OHL, there will always be kids that don't get a roster spot on an OHL team but that can play in the CHL and contribute. But they normally aren't top 6 guys nor top 4 Dmen. There will always be a few late bloomers ... or a few kids not getting the chance they need on their current team to show what they can do. The Q teams draw from the smallest population regions ... not including our US region. They should all be beating the bushes for solid FA players from Ontario and out west. Sometimes you find that one kid that comes in and lights it up ... or plays a solid D role ... there have been a few over the years. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 17, 2017 16:28:54 GMT -4
I spoke with a former Wildcat employee this summer who now works for another organization and he told me himself that Robert Irving thinks it is easy to rebuild just by adding free agents, so to me that told me what I thought all along, Irving is for sure a meddler and won't let the people he hired to run the team do their jobs. That whole approach has to assume that all other teams (OHL, WHL, etc.) missed the boat on the FAs. However, with the population rich OHL, there will always be kids that don't get a roster spot on an OHL team but that can play in the CHL and contribute. But they normally aren't top 6 guys nor top 4 Dmen. There will always be a few late bloomers ... or a few kids not getting the chance they need on their current team to show what they can do. The Q teams draw from the smallest population regions ... not including our US region. They should all be beating the bushes for solid FA players from Ontario and out west. Sometimes you find that one kid that comes in and lights it up ... or plays a solid D role ... there have been a few over the years. Exactly, FA's can be good depth/role players, but you will rarely find guys that will be core players on championship teams. For each Hoffman or Giroux, there are a 100 who don't make a team or make any big impact. |
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Oct 17, 2017 16:49:31 GMT -4
Unless you can't turn the offer down , I'd hang onto grametbauer. He's been really solid and would be great overager next season.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 17, 2017 16:52:08 GMT -4
Unless you can't turn the offer down , I'd hang onto grametbauer. He's been really solid and would be great overager next season. The better he plays, the higher the odds that he plays pro at 20 though. |
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Oct 17, 2017 16:54:26 GMT -4
Julien tessier to Bathurst for Chisholm and a mid pick.
Welsh to Victoriaville for a 1st or couple of 2nds and a prospect
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Oct 17, 2017 16:55:23 GMT -4
Unless you can't turn the offer down , I'd hang onto grametbauer. He's been really solid and would be great overager next season. The better he plays, the higher the odds that he plays pro at 20 though. That's the gamble , however I think unlikely. Either way , that's why they'll have to evaluate at Christmas. |
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Post by Shannon's burner account on Oct 17, 2017 16:58:17 GMT -4
With the lack of any powerhouse teams this year and Irving's apparent stance on "selling", I'd be surprised to see the Cats sell at the trade period.
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