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Post by JEagle on Jun 1, 2018 13:30:54 GMT -4
This one worked for me Thanks Catnut. |
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Post by chootoi on Jun 1, 2018 13:53:15 GMT -4
aside from the top 3 picks, every pick in the first round has changed hands at least once. 72% of the picks in the top 3 rounds have already been traded and it's not even draft day yet!
this is worse than the NBA lol
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Post by Reesor on Jun 1, 2018 13:57:50 GMT -4
aside from the top 3 picks, every pick in the first round has changed hands at least once. 72% of the picks in the top 3 rounds have already been traded and it's not even draft day yet! this is worse than the NBA lol That's absolutely incredible. I wonder if they will ever think about not allowing teams to trade 1st rounders similar to the OHL. Don't know if I'd rather trade 1st rounders, or have to trade my 2nd rounder from 8 years down the road to make a deal happen. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 1, 2018 14:18:55 GMT -4
aside from the top 3 picks, every pick in the first round has changed hands at least once. 72% of the picks in the top 3 rounds have already been traded and it's not even draft day yet! this is worse than the NBA lol That's absolutely incredible. I wonder if they will ever think about not allowing teams to trade 1st rounders similar to the OHL. Don't know if I'd rather trade 1st rounders, or have to trade my 2nd rounder from 8 years down the road to make a deal happen. It creates a mess in the OHL, they end up trading picks 10 years out. Makes no sense. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 1, 2018 14:22:49 GMT -4
aside from the top 3 picks, every pick in the first round has changed hands at least once. 72% of the picks in the top 3 rounds have already been traded and it's not even draft day yet! this is worse than the NBA lol That's absolutely incredible. I wonder if they will ever think about not allowing teams to trade 1st rounders similar to the OHL. Don't know if I'd rather trade 1st rounders, or have to trade my 2nd rounder from 8 years down the road to make a deal happen. Why would they do that? This chaos creates a huge fan frenzy and tons of interest from all 18 markets. How is that a bad thing? My team has picked #1 overall, multiple times in the top 5, had kids not report, picked NHL top 3 picks....and none of it mattered because of poor coaching. Not letting rebuilding teams get assets like 1st rounders only helps the big market teams. That would mean Halifax's currency right now becomes 2nds rather then 1sts. You change the value of assets but the trades are still going to happen and on top of it all they get to build around 1sts who would only further manipulate their way to certain markets. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 1, 2018 14:28:20 GMT -4
That's absolutely incredible. I wonder if they will ever think about not allowing teams to trade 1st rounders similar to the OHL. Don't know if I'd rather trade 1st rounders, or have to trade my 2nd rounder from 8 years down the road to make a deal happen. Why would they do that? This chaos creates a huge fan frenzy and tons of interest from all 18 markets. How is that a bad thing? My team has picked #1 overall, multiple times in the top 5, had kids not report, picked NHL top 3 picks....and none of it mattered because of poor coaching. Not letting rebuilding teams get assets like 1st rounders only helps the big market teams. That would mean Halifax's currency right now becomes 2nds rather then 1sts. You change the value of assets but the trades are still going to happen and on top of it all they get to build around 1sts who would only further manipulate their way to certain markets. Not allowing teams to trade Euro picks has hurt small markets more than bigger ones. Banning Euro goalies has accomplished nothing. Those two new rules should be rolled back. I don't mind the rule that you can't trade Euros for a year, teams used to "park" players with another team like Quebec used to do with RN. |
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Post by gocapebreton on Jun 1, 2018 14:41:52 GMT -4
Yep. But still, chsb called me a liar when I said the 7th could transform into a 4th if Crossman played all season. He didn't think he was worth it.  He said similar things to people when they brought up Morand going to Halifax for a discount. I think with respect to the Morand deal, there were many of us that doubted that. I found it difficult to believe, and still do, that other teams including CB wouldn't have offered more in that instance. Even with Rycek not reporting it was a good deal. Plus, you get your competition in Halifax spending more assets to compete. It was not like they offered the sky for Rycek in the deal, it was a 16th overall pick. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 1, 2018 14:56:42 GMT -4
He said similar things to people when they brought up Morand going to Halifax for a discount. I think with respect to the Morand deal, there were many of us that doubted that. I found it difficult to believe, and still do, that other teams including CB wouldn't have offered more in that instance. Even with Rycek not reporting it was a good deal. Plus, you get your competition in Halifax spending more assets to compete. It was not like they offered the sky for Rycek in the deal, it was a 16th overall pick. It wasn't about that pick though it was an overall arrangement that involved 3 1st rounders. We were looking to sell and building around youth so why would we want to acquire Bathurst's veterans and move our picks to do so? All our movement only came about after Shaw took over and put a gun to Dumont's head to make positive changes by Christmas. |
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Post by hockeydad67 on Jun 1, 2018 16:03:28 GMT -4
Well somebody best put a gun to Shaw's head cause there's not much positive from today. We'll all see tomorrow I guess.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 1, 2018 16:41:37 GMT -4
Well somebody best put a gun to Shaw's head cause there's not much positive from today. We'll all see tomorrow I guess. Shaw's a Cape Bretoner listening to people say "you never have any locals on the team!" when in reality even when the team is full of them there's no more or less support for the team. So Dumont's first effort in pleasing his new boss is bringing in a Cape Bretoner. While Gerard sits there oblivious to the fact that his own kid never had any respect here and wasn't a player anyone paid any attention to or went out of their way to voice any ounce of support for until he reached the NHL. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 1, 2018 17:42:24 GMT -4
Well somebody best put a gun to Shaw's head cause there's not much positive from today. We'll all see tomorrow I guess. Shaw's a Cape Bretoner listening to people say "you never have any locals on the team!" when in reality even when the team is full of them there's no more or less support for the team. So Dumont's first effort in pleasing his new boss is bringing in a Cape Bretoner. While Gerard sits there oblivious to the fact that his own kid never had any respect here and wasn't a player anyone paid any attention to or went out of their way to voice any ounce of support for until he reached the NHL. The biggest problem with the whole idea that the Islanders need to have local talent on the team is that there really isn’t any local talent to put on the team. Cavan Fitzgerald, Mitchell Balmas, Cole Reginato, Leon Denny, Mikey Lyle, Kyle Farrell and Derek Gentile are the only players that you’d really consider to be local guys that have played any substantial amount of games in the QMJHL from 2010 to the present. Obviously Kyle Farrell, Leon Denny, Michael Lyle and Cole Reginato were CB players for a bit or owned by the team. Reginato and Fitzgerald were both free agents in their back yard that every team decided to pass on, while eventually developing into solid QMJHL players. Balmas wasn’t really an option at the time of the draft based on where they were picking and Gentile I believe was also possibly an NCAA threat at the time of the draft? Was there any significant uptick in attendance from the guys they did have on their team? I’d guess not, would the other locals have raised it all? Probably not as well. It’s easy to say you want locals on the team but when there isn’t many locals to be had, why the fuss from some fans? |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 1, 2018 18:03:57 GMT -4
Shaw's a Cape Bretoner listening to people say "you never have any locals on the team!" when in reality even when the team is full of them there's no more or less support for the team. So Dumont's first effort in pleasing his new boss is bringing in a Cape Bretoner. While Gerard sits there oblivious to the fact that his own kid never had any respect here and wasn't a player anyone paid any attention to or went out of their way to voice any ounce of support for until he reached the NHL. The biggest problem with the whole idea that the Islanders need to have local talent on the team is that there really isn’t any local talent to put on the team. Cavan Fitzgerald, Mitchell Balmas, Cole Reginato, Leon Denny, Mikey Lyle, Kyle Farrell and Derek Gentile are the only players that you’d really consider to be local guys that have played any substantial amount of games in the QMJHL from 2010 to the present. Obviously Kyle Farrell, Leon Denny, Michael Lyle and Cole Reginato were CB players for a bit or owned by the team. Reginato and Fitzgerald were both free agents in their back yard that every team decided to pass on, while eventually developing into solid QMJHL players. Balmas wasn’t really an option at the time of the draft based on where they were picking and Gentile I believe was also possibly an NCAA threat at the time of the draft? Was there any significant uptick in attendance from the guys they did have on their team? I’d guess not, would the other locals have raised it all? Probably not as well. It’s easy to say you want locals on the team but when there isn’t many locals to be had, why the fuss from some fans? Because the older generation in basically every community in this country holds onto this belief that local means better. So therefore is they see a team struggling their 1st belief in fixing it is to become more local be it with players or coaches or whatever the case may be. Our population, and especially the money in the area, is tied up in that generation. So when the team hears a bunch of opinions the 1 common thing they hear is how there isn't enough local players. Every figure you look at will tell you that every market will support a winner no matter where the kids are from and that no market will support a team full of locals if they're losing any more then a team full of a collection of players from Eastern Canada as a whole. We've had local players from every area of Cape Breton...and don't get me started about how that generation things a kid from Creignish is "local" to Sydney...but do you want to know the only local player to ever put a dent into our attendance here? Chad Denny when he played for Lewiston because Eskasoni, a native reserve, would load up busses of people to come cheer for him. But when a Logan Shaw, from a community 15 minutes away from C200, plays here for 4 years all you hear about him is how he's soft, lazy, not a game breaker, over-rated, gets too much ice time...until he reached the NHL. Then the Cape Breton pride comes out again from the same people who couldn't be bothered to pay $13 to watch him play junior then criticize the Eagles for not having more local kids like Logan Shaw. It becomes exhausting to listen to and try to reason with some of the people here. |
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Post by Theplug on Jun 1, 2018 19:20:38 GMT -4
The biggest problem with the whole idea that the Islanders need to have local talent on the team is that there really isn’t any local talent to put on the team. Cavan Fitzgerald, Mitchell Balmas, Cole Reginato, Leon Denny, Mikey Lyle, Kyle Farrell and Derek Gentile are the only players that you’d really consider to be local guys that have played any substantial amount of games in the QMJHL from 2010 to the present. Obviously Kyle Farrell, Leon Denny, Michael Lyle and Cole Reginato were CB players for a bit or owned by the team. Reginato and Fitzgerald were both free agents in their back yard that every team decided to pass on, while eventually developing into solid QMJHL players. Balmas wasn’t really an option at the time of the draft based on where they were picking and Gentile I believe was also possibly an NCAA threat at the time of the draft? Was there any significant uptick in attendance from the guys they did have on their team? I’d guess not, would the other locals have raised it all? Probably not as well. It’s easy to say you want locals on the team but when there isn’t many locals to be had, why the fuss from some fans? Because the older generation in basically every community in this country holds onto this belief that local means better. So therefore is they see a team struggling their 1st belief in fixing it is to become more local be it with players or coaches or whatever the case may be. Our population, and especially the money in the area, is tied up in that generation. So when the team hears a bunch of opinions the 1 common thing they hear is how there isn't enough local players. Every figure you look at will tell you that every market will support a winner no matter where the kids are from and that no market will support a team full of locals if they're losing any more then a team full of a collection of players from Eastern Canada as a whole. We've had local players from every area of Cape Breton...and don't get me started about how that generation things a kid from Creignish is "local" to Sydney...but do you want to know the only local player to ever put a dent into our attendance here? Chad Denny when he played for Lewiston because Eskasoni, a native reserve, would load up busses of people to come cheer for him. But when a Logan Shaw, from a community 15 minutes away from C200, plays here for 4 years all you hear about him is how he's soft, lazy, not a game breaker, over-rated, gets too much ice time...until he reached the NHL. Then the Cape Breton pride comes out again from the same people who couldn't be bothered to pay $13 to watch him play junior then criticize the Eagles for not having more local kids like Logan Shaw. It becomes exhausting to listen to and try to reason with some of the people here. Jack those are some strong valid points about Cape Breton and it's behind the 8 ball outlook on most things. I've had the conversation not to those depths with numerous casual hockey fans explaining why they might want to see x team from Quebec play in Sydney on a mid week day because of said player and they still won't go. But those are the same guys saying the league isn't the same since Marchand and Bergeron and Luongo where in it. But then these guys say what a great program our junior B team has and how it's all local guys and they deserve a look and just look at Coke Reginato. But these guys never payed to watch him until he was on St John and then it was why did we give up on him. Cause the coach is French etc etc. Tireless efforts |
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Post by eaglefan62 on Jun 1, 2018 22:14:31 GMT -4
Fully agree. We have had countless numbers of local kids come through here from all over the island and not one of them have meant any significant spike in attendance. This organization has been s[inning its wheels for years now, from poor management decisions to poor coaching, this organization is way behind the eight ball. The lack of on ice success says it all.
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 1, 2018 22:47:04 GMT -4
The biggest problem with the whole idea that the Islanders need to have local talent on the team is that there really isn’t any local talent to put on the team. Cavan Fitzgerald, Mitchell Balmas, Cole Reginato, Leon Denny, Mikey Lyle, Kyle Farrell and Derek Gentile are the only players that you’d really consider to be local guys that have played any substantial amount of games in the QMJHL from 2010 to the present. Obviously Kyle Farrell, Leon Denny, Michael Lyle and Cole Reginato were CB players for a bit or owned by the team. Reginato and Fitzgerald were both free agents in their back yard that every team decided to pass on, while eventually developing into solid QMJHL players. Balmas wasn’t really an option at the time of the draft based on where they were picking and Gentile I believe was also possibly an NCAA threat at the time of the draft? Was there any significant uptick in attendance from the guys they did have on their team? I’d guess not, would the other locals have raised it all? Probably not as well. It’s easy to say you want locals on the team but when there isn’t many locals to be had, why the fuss from some fans? Because the older generation in basically every community in this country holds onto this belief that local means better. So therefore is they see a team struggling their 1st belief in fixing it is to become more local be it with players or coaches or whatever the case may be. Our population, and especially the money in the area, is tied up in that generation. So when the team hears a bunch of opinions the 1 common thing they hear is how there isn't enough local players. Every figure you look at will tell you that every market will support a winner no matter where the kids are from and that no market will support a team full of locals if they're losing any more then a team full of a collection of players from Eastern Canada as a whole. We've had local players from every area of Cape Breton...and don't get me started about how that generation things a kid from Creignish is "local" to Sydney...but do you want to know the only local player to ever put a dent into our attendance here? Chad Denny when he played for Lewiston because Eskasoni, a native reserve, would load up busses of people to come cheer for him. But when a Logan Shaw, from a community 15 minutes away from C200, plays here for 4 years all you hear about him is how he's soft, lazy, not a game breaker, over-rated, gets too much ice time...until he reached the NHL. Then the Cape Breton pride comes out again from the same people who couldn't be bothered to pay $13 to watch him play junior then criticize the Eagles for not having more local kids like Logan Shaw. It becomes exhausting to listen to and try to reason with some of the people here. I see it with the Jr. A teams a lot across the maritimes, especially form the casual fan in a lot of these towns. They’re complaining that the local Jr. A team doesn’t have any kids from the local community, meanwhile they have 3-5 kids from within a 5-15 minute drive from their home rink. While I consider that a local kid, since that’s a stone throw around the older generation doesn’t. As a result, they have very little interest in supporting them, when the team was comprised of mostly local kids, the attendance was also no better. So it’s hard for me to take those complaints seriously. |
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