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Post by Captain Obvious on May 29, 2018 13:02:49 GMT -4
They can't stop teams from drafting them in the regular draft right? What happens if a team wants to draft 3 or 4 Americans, are they not allowed? Yup, they can draft as many as they want. The Monday draft is only for US kids. |
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Post by joehockey on May 29, 2018 13:11:46 GMT -4
They can't stop teams from drafting them in the regular draft right? What happens if a team wants to draft 3 or 4 Americans, are they not allowed? Yup, they can draft as many as they want. The Monday draft is only for US kids. So essentially just letting teams take fliers on kids who likely will likely never report and that teams don't waste draft picks on in the regular draft. |
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Post by SteveUL on May 29, 2018 13:16:00 GMT -4
Okay ... so is the regular draft now cut back by two rounds ? or are we taking 14 (+/-) on Saturday and another two on Monday ?
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Post by Citris on May 29, 2018 13:20:13 GMT -4
The US Draft is a joke for the Q anyway. We only get Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts.
Mass is a great state, one of the best hockey states in the USA, 4th overall in youth hockey participation, 4th in active NHLers... but there's a huge NCAA culture... so most kids aren't reporting anyway.
The Q really should have access to New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Florida,
That would still leave the OHL With New York, Michigan, and Wisconsin as key hockey states (they could probably stand to take Illinois from the W)
Then the W would have Minnesota, California, Colorado, and Texas among others.
But as is now, it's incredibly unbalanced as the Q is basically drafting from 1 state, because outside of Mass the other states have fewer that 15,000 youth hockey participation combined.
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Post by joehockey on May 29, 2018 13:22:15 GMT -4
Okay ... so is the regular draft now cut back by two rounds ? or are we taking 14 (+/-) on Saturday and another two on Monday ? The draft still seems to be 14 rounds. So it seems teams can still take Americans during the regular draft but aren't required to as they can draft them during the American draft. We'll have to see if there is an explanation put out. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on May 29, 2018 13:22:19 GMT -4
The US Draft is a joke for the Q anyway. We only get Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts.Mass is a great state, one of the best hockey states in the USA, 4th overall in youth hockey participation, 4th in active NHLers... but there's a huge NCAA culture... so most kids aren't reporting anyway. The Q really should have access to New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Florida, That would still leave the OHL With New York, Michigan, and Wisconsin as key hockey states (they could probably stand to take Illinois from the W) Then the W would have Minnesota, California, Colorado, and Texas among others. But as is now, it's incredibly unbalanced as the Q is basically drafting from 1 state, because outside of Mass the other states have fewer that 15,000 youth hockey participation combined. You forgot Connecticut and Rhode Island  |
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Post by Citris on May 29, 2018 13:34:44 GMT -4
You forgot Connecticut and Rhode Island I did, that actually pushes the available pool up to ~20,000 + Mass which is ~45,000 youth hockey players. But to put that in perspective Michigan has over 50,000 and New York is another 45,000, with those 2 states alone the OHL eclipses our entire player pool easily. Minnesota is over 50,000 and Illinois has ~25,000, so again the WHL blows us out of the water with just 2 states. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 29, 2018 18:28:20 GMT -4
Pare headed to Rimouski for picks, including the 15th overall. Plus a 4th rounder.
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QMJHL trade - Cedric Pare (Bos) goes from Saint John to Rimouski. Picks, including 15th overall goes the other way.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on May 29, 2018 18:37:59 GMT -4
Seems to be fairly cheap , good trade for Rimouski.
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 29, 2018 18:49:53 GMT -4
Seems to be fairly cheap , good trade for Rimouski. A few things at play... 1-Pare didn't exactly light it up with 37 points in 60 games 2-Veterans are worth less in June than in Dec/Jan while picks are worth more in June |
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Post by sherwood1020 on May 30, 2018 11:51:53 GMT -4
Seems to be fairly cheap , good trade for Rimouski. A few things at play... 1-Pare didn't exactly light it up with 37 points in 60 games 2-Veterans are worth less in June than in Dec/Jan while picks are worth more in June Except Mitchell Balmas |
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 30, 2018 12:10:33 GMT -4
A few things at play... 1-Pare didn't exactly light it up with 37 points in 60 games 2-Veterans are worth less in June than in Dec/Jan while picks are worth more in June Except Mitchell Balmas The Balmas to CB deal was likely done in Dec/Jan. They are announcing it with the futures deals. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 30, 2018 12:14:17 GMT -4
The Balmas to CB deal was likely done in Dec/Jan. They are announcing it with the futures deals. It wasn't. When they announce it means nothing in terms of when the deal was done. Deals could be announced Friday that aren't deals yet but will be before then. CB outbid a few teams for Balmas but it didn't happen months ago. |
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Post by hal on May 30, 2018 12:19:32 GMT -4
The Balmas to CB deal was likely done in Dec/Jan. They are announcing it with the futures deals. It wasn't. When they announce it means nothing in terms of when the deal was done. Deals could be announced Friday that aren't deals yet but will be before then. CB outbid a few teams for Balmas but it didn't happen months ago. Are you thinking that Teams like Halifax and Drummondville were in on a Balmas Type Sweepstakes ?......I don't see it but maybe . |
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 30, 2018 12:21:31 GMT -4
It wasn't. When they announce it means nothing in terms of when the deal was done. Deals could be announced Friday that aren't deals yet but will be before then. CB outbid a few teams for Balmas but it didn't happen months ago. Are you thinking that Teams like Halifax and Drummondville were in on a Balmas Type Sweepstakes ?......I don't see it but maybe . Yes. Was it to drive up the cost? Who knows. |
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