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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2018 8:44:23 GMT -4
17-Khovanov-B- Was a solid contributor, still has room to improve his skating and conditioning. At times took some dumb penalties after the whistle. defense is also an issue. Above average hockey sense and vision, could be a top scorer with continued growth. Remember that Khovanov missed the start of the season with Hep A. He didn't touch the ice until he joined the Wildcats in December, and actually came back earlier than expected. I can't imagine his conditioning will be a problem heading in to camp. He's gonna make some NHL team very happy with their second round pick. I'm sure missing 2 months didn't help, but it was still an issue at playoff time, so the "he was sick to start the season" no longer applies. I believe he was doing gym work in October and was back on the ice late Oct. I think he could be a very good 2nd rounder, but improving foot speed is not as easy as improving conditioning. Him and MacDonald will both drop due to skating. |
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Post by BecauseItsTheQ on Jun 6, 2018 10:17:07 GMT -4
Remember that Khovanov missed the start of the season with Hep A. He didn't touch the ice until he joined the Wildcats in December, and actually came back earlier than expected. I can't imagine his conditioning will be a problem heading in to camp. He's gonna make some NHL team very happy with their second round pick. I'm sure missing 2 months didn't help, but it was still an issue at playoff time, so the "he was sick to start the season" no longer applies. I believe he was doing gym work in October and was back on the ice late Oct. I think he could be a very good 2nd rounder, but improving foot speed is not as easy as improving conditioning. Him and MacDonald will both drop due to skating. I wouldn't say it "no longer applies". Neither of us know what lingering effects it could have had on him. Hep A can have a recovery time anywhere from less than 2 months to longer than 9. I'm not excusing it, and I generally agree with your point; you'd think by playoff he'd be 100%. But ultimately we don't know. We'll just have to see what he looks like following the offseason. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2018 10:25:23 GMT -4
I'm sure missing 2 months didn't help, but it was still an issue at playoff time, so the "he was sick to start the season" no longer applies. I believe he was doing gym work in October and was back on the ice late Oct. I think he could be a very good 2nd rounder, but improving foot speed is not as easy as improving conditioning. Him and MacDonald will both drop due to skating. I wouldn't say it "no longer applies". Neither of us know what lingering effects it could have had on him. Hep A can have a recovery time anywhere from less than 2 months to longer than 9. I'm not excusing it, and I generally agree with your point; you'd think by playoff he'd be 100%. But ultimately we don't know. We'll just have to see what he looks like following the offseason. If he was cleared for full exertion, there is no excuse for being out of shape 4-5 months later. Plus, he isn't a great skater to begin with, so when you stop moving your feet it's that much easier to neutralise. |
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Post by MonctonWildcast on Jun 6, 2018 12:47:52 GMT -4
I agree, we are very young and very thin on the blue line...I have LeCoutre 3 because of experience...I do however like LeCoutre more then Arsenault..I don’t know all the in’s and outs, but the fact we chose Arsenault over Bellamy is mind boggling!! I believe Spence, and I said this last night on my podcast will be playing Top 4 mins and 2nd PP sometime this season
I believe this or the new GM will add depth on the backend, because of Desnoyers and (I believe ) Hilier make the opening night roster, that leaves Blackmore,Kuzmin,Lazure all as traidbait to get help on backend
As for whom, other then Dobson (cause he’s the easy choice) they’re are probably some good solid choices out there
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Jun 6, 2018 13:34:07 GMT -4
Spence / Bellamy would have complimented each other well
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Jun 6, 2018 13:35:12 GMT -4
I agree, we are very young and very thin on the blue line...I have LeCoutre 3 because of experience...I do however like LeCoutre more then Arsenault..I don’t know all the in’s and outs, but the fact we chose Arsenault over Bellamy is mind boggling!! I believe Spence, and I said this last night on my podcast will be playing Top 4 mins and 2nd PP sometime this season I believe this or the new GM will add depth on the backend, because of Desnoyers and (I believe ) Hilier make the opening night roster, that leaves Blackmore,Kuzmin,Lazure all as traidbait to get help on backend As for whom, other then Dobson (cause he’s the easy choice) they’re are probably some good solid choices out there Can't see that trio bringing back more than a mid to late pick |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 6, 2018 14:02:16 GMT -4
I agree, we are very young and very thin on the blue line...I have LeCoutre 3 because of experience...I do however like LeCoutre more then Arsenault..I don’t know all the in’s and outs, but the fact we chose Arsenault over Bellamy is mind boggling!! I believe Spence, and I said this last night on my podcast will be playing Top 4 mins and 2nd PP sometime this season I believe this or the new GM will add depth on the backend, because of Desnoyers and (I believe ) Hilier make the opening night roster, that leaves Blackmore,Kuzmin,Lazure all as traidbait to get help on backend As for whom, other then Dobson (cause he’s the easy choice) they’re are probably some good solid choices out there I think the door is open for Spence to possibly even be more than PP2 this year ... obviously he is going to have to earn it, but I could see him on PP1 before the year is done. Kuzmin, Blackmore and Lazure, IMO, are more likely to be on waivers than generating any type of significant trade return if we end up not needing them ... I suspect they were all available to varying degrees on the weekend with no takers. Can't see us being in the market for Dobson - price would be crazy, especially in a host year. Unless we really overachieve in the first half and suddenly look like championship contenders, I can't see us paying the price. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2018 14:07:17 GMT -4
I agree, we are very young and very thin on the blue line...I have LeCoutre 3 because of experience...I do however like LeCoutre more then Arsenault..I don’t know all the in’s and outs, but the fact we chose Arsenault over Bellamy is mind boggling!! I believe Spence, and I said this last night on my podcast will be playing Top 4 mins and 2nd PP sometime this season I believe this or the new GM will add depth on the backend, because of Desnoyers and (I believe ) Hilier make the opening night roster, that leaves Blackmore,Kuzmin,Lazure all as traidbait to get help on backend As for whom, other then Dobson (cause he’s the easy choice) they’re are probably some good solid choices out there I don't think they can get much for Lazure, Kuzmin or Blackmore to help on defense, if they had value they would already be moved. I think ideally, they grab an OA from Quebec on defense for a mid round pick plus draft a skilled Euro d-man, 17 or 18. Plus, maybe bring in a few FA from Ontario and see if they are an upgrade... |
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Post by MonctonWildcast on Jun 7, 2018 7:26:09 GMT -4
That’s true, maybe this is something where they hope those players have a hot start to the year and then try and move them for any pick, we have less picks next year then this draft..
What ever they do, the focus now has to be improving the blue line at (almost) any cost!!
I think they add, I DON’T think the add will be Dobson, I would love it but I don’t see that in a year that we didn’t get Mem Cup....Armada’s Anttalainen would be good good add, there are a couple vet DMan for the Olympic that would be nice additions..
I like our forwards, and goalie depth..just blueline is too thin for me
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Post by catnut on Jun 7, 2018 8:19:46 GMT -4
That’s true, maybe this is something where they hope those players have a hot start to the year and then try and move them for any pick, we have less picks next year then this draft.. What ever they do, the focus now has to be improving the blue line at (almost) any cost!! I think they add, I DON’T think the add will be Dobson, I would love it but I don’t see that in a year that we didn’t get Mem Cup....Armada’s Anttalainen would be good good add, there are a couple vet DMan for the Olympic that would be nice additions.. I like our forwards, and goalie depth..just blueline is too thin for me Anttalainen??? Why pay for a mediocre Euro who is MAYBE an improvement on Le Coultre who would have to be dropped. They will be better off drafting another Euro with their high pick. |
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Post by MonctonWildcast on Jun 7, 2018 8:49:49 GMT -4
Okay..sure I am still learning all the in’s and outs of the league, if there is a better DMan in Euro draft then i’m all for it, I just know watching Anntalinen is playoffs last season, he looked pretty good
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 7, 2018 9:38:19 GMT -4
Okay..sure I am still learning all the in’s and outs of the league, if there is a better DMan in Euro draft then i’m all for it, I just know watching Anntalinen is playoffs last season, he looked pretty good Yeah but it doesn’t make sense to essentially give up 1 19 year old D plus assets for another 19 year old D. Judging by the core of this team, I’d think they’re going to want to draft a 17 year old D preferably. |
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Post by amateurcoach99 on Jun 8, 2018 0:21:56 GMT -4
I agree, we are very young and very thin on the blue line...I have LeCoutre 3 because of experience...I do however like LeCoutre more then Arsenault..I don’t know all the in’s and outs, but the fact we chose Arsenault over Bellamy is mind boggling!! I believe Spence, and I said this last night on my podcast will be playing Top 4 mins and 2nd PP sometime this season I believe this or the new GM will add depth on the backend, because of Desnoyers and (I believe ) Hilier make the opening night roster, that leaves Blackmore,Kuzmin,Lazure all as traidbait to get help on backend As for whom, other then Dobson (cause he’s the easy choice) they’re are probably some good solid choices out there I think the door is open for Spence to possibly even be more than PP2 this year ... obviously he is going to have to earn it, but I could see him on PP1 before the year is done. Kuzmin, Blackmore and Lazure, IMO, are more likely to be on waivers than generating any type of significant trade return if we end up not needing them ... I suspect they were all available to varying degrees on the weekend with no takers. Can't see us being in the market for Dobson - price would be crazy, especially in a host year. Unless we really overachieve in the first half and suddenly look like championship contenders, I can't see us paying the price. Do we look at moving one of Mckenna/Cyr/MacDonald to try and obtain the high end D that will help - I think the return of a good D out weighs losing one of those forwards |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 8, 2018 8:02:08 GMT -4
I think the door is open for Spence to possibly even be more than PP2 this year ... obviously he is going to have to earn it, but I could see him on PP1 before the year is done. Kuzmin, Blackmore and Lazure, IMO, are more likely to be on waivers than generating any type of significant trade return if we end up not needing them ... I suspect they were all available to varying degrees on the weekend with no takers. Can't see us being in the market for Dobson - price would be crazy, especially in a host year. Unless we really overachieve in the first half and suddenly look like championship contenders, I can't see us paying the price. Do we look at moving one of Mckenna/Cyr/MacDonald to try and obtain the high end D that will help - I think the return of a good D out weighs losing one of those forwards That works in theory (dealing from a position of strength to shore up a weakness), probably works well at the pro level ... but in junior, you don't tend to see a lot of pure hockey trades, especially in season. Teams tend to sharply divided between buyers and sellers - so if we are trading veteran talent, we are not likely getting back anything of comparable value to help us now - we would be getting young players or picks. The only way you might be able to pull it off, and it would be tricky, is by dealing a veteran forward to a contender for picks and prospects; then turning around and buying a veteran d-man using those same picks and prospects as currency. But even then, such a double move is easier to throw out in theory than it is to execute in practice - the number of impact d-men who are sure to return in 2019/20 (i.e. not just half season rentals) available on the trade market is bound to be small, and demand will be high ... |
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Post by bois on Jun 8, 2018 9:46:45 GMT -4
Do we look at moving one of Mckenna/Cyr/MacDonald to try and obtain the high end D that will help - I think the return of a good D out weighs losing one of those forwards That works in theory (dealing from a position of strength to shore up a weakness), probably works well at the pro level ... but in junior, you don't tend to see a lot of pure hockey trades, especially in season. Teams tend to sharply divided between buyers and sellers - so if we are trading veteran talent, we are not likely getting back anything of comparable value to help us now - we would be getting young players or picks. The only way you might be able to pull it off, and it would be tricky, is by dealing a veteran forward to a contender for picks and prospects; then turning around and buying a veteran d-man using those same picks and prospects as currency. But even then, such a double move is easier to throw out in theory than it is to execute in practice - the number of impact d-men who are sure to return in 2019/20 (i.e. not just half season rentals) available on the trade market is bound to be small, and demand will be high ... i think you see it more often now than in the past i think of us adding Gentile for MacLeod and Grouchy last year as an example couple years earlier we added Blais for Goulet |
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