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Post by Arnold Slick on Jun 25, 2018 10:10:42 GMT -4
The Import Draft is Thursday. Unless something drastic changes from now until then, Khovanov and Le Coultre will be back next season. Moncton will take a PASS. This blows my mind on how terrible asset management this is. They might even be able to get a pick for Lecoultre and draft a player that is younger and more talented. Has this been officially announced anywhere yet? Until it is I'm still holding out hope that maybe they were just waiting to see on the off-chance that Khovanov went in the 1st round before moving on from Le Coultre. There's no way they're seriously going to pass on the 13th overall pick to keep him? Right....? |
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Post by catzfans on Jun 25, 2018 12:57:08 GMT -4
This blows my mind on how terrible asset management this is. They might even be able to get a pick for Lecoultre and draft a player that is younger and more talented. Has this been officially announced anywhere yet? Until it is I'm still holding out hope that maybe they were just waiting to see on the off-chance that Khovanov went in the 1st round before moving on from Le Coultre. There's no way they're seriously going to pass on the 13th overall pick to keep him? Right....? The only thing I can think of is that we don't have a European Scout in place that would have been working on finding a player? |
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Post by MLeBlancA on Jun 25, 2018 14:50:03 GMT -4
i would guess they will pass this Thursday, i just cant believe it.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 25, 2018 14:57:31 GMT -4
The Import Draft is Thursday. Unless something drastic changes from now until then, Khovanov and Le Coultre will be back next season. Moncton will take a PASS. This blows my mind on how terrible asset management this is. They might even be able to get a pick for Lecoultre and draft a player that is younger and more talented. Coach Rumble feels Le Coultre can quadruple his offensive production from last season  |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jun 25, 2018 14:59:52 GMT -4
Has this been officially announced anywhere yet? Until it is I'm still holding out hope that maybe they were just waiting to see on the off-chance that Khovanov went in the 1st round before moving on from Le Coultre. There's no way they're seriously going to pass on the 13th overall pick to keep him? Right....? The only thing I can think of is that we don't have a European Scout in place that would have been working on finding a player? I'm not sure if many teams have a dedicated European scout in place. I think identifying players for the Euro draft is mostly done through contacts and scouting the U17's and U18's. |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 25, 2018 15:12:33 GMT -4
This blows my mind on how terrible asset management this is. They might even be able to get a pick for Lecoultre and draft a player that is younger and more talented. Coach Rumble feels Le Coultre can quadruple his offensive production from last season Assume best case (which is far from a foregone conclusion) that Le Coultre breaks out at 19 and puts up 50 points (last year that would have put him top 10 in the league among d-men) ... he has one year left, as there is no way he is coming back as an OA with the other 19 year olds we have ... is one year of that type of production worth more than what we could get with #13 overall euro pick? Not even close IMO ... and that is assuming best case for Le Coultre. |
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Post by catzfans on Jun 25, 2018 15:34:19 GMT -4
Coach Rumble feels Le Coultre can quadruple his offensive production from last season Assume best case (which is far from a foregone conclusion) that Le Coultre breaks out at 19 and puts up 50 points (last year that would have put him top 10 in the league among d-men) ... he has one year left, as there is no way he is coming back as an OA with the other 19 year olds we have ... is one year of that type of production worth more than what we could get with #13 overall euro pick? Not even close IMO ... and that is assuming best case for Le Coultre. Exactly. It's not as much about the quality of Lecoultre as it is using a Premium Asset to get younger knowing we aren't going to be a contending team. |
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Post by amateurcoach99 on Jun 25, 2018 17:38:08 GMT -4
This blows my mind on how terrible asset management this is. They might even be able to get a pick for Lecoultre and draft a player that is younger and more talented. Coach Rumble feels Le Coultre can quadruple his offensive production from last season Rumble has no clue how to coach a junior team - no skill at developing and getting the best out of his players |
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Post by topcheddar on Jun 25, 2018 19:42:23 GMT -4
Coach Rumble feels Le Coultre can quadruple his offensive production from last season Rumble has no clue how to coach a junior team - no skill at developing and getting the best out of his players agreed --- he should not be in charge of junior kids --- he is a real problem he is better off as an nhl assistant |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 25, 2018 20:42:27 GMT -4
Assume best case (which is far from a foregone conclusion) that Le Coultre breaks out at 19 and puts up 50 points (last year that would have put him top 10 in the league among d-men) ... he has one year left, as there is no way he is coming back as an OA with the other 19 year olds we have ... is one year of that type of production worth more than what we could get with #13 overall euro pick? Not even close IMO ... and that is assuming best case for Le Coultre. Exactly. It's not as much about the quality of Lecoultre as it is using a Premium Asset to get younger knowing we aren't going to be a contending team. Lecoultre is not exactly a stud on defense, he put up 22 points and was an adventure defensively. He has below average size and average speed, I don't see a major break out coming! |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Jun 25, 2018 22:35:57 GMT -4
I can't believe they would pass on the opportunity to select a high-end euro and use that player as a publicity ploy to sell more tickets. Forget about which player would be more beneficial long-term vs short-term, but the fact they could use the 13th overall to create hype right before the season opens is very odd. You can't create a marketing campaign around Lecoutre, but that 13th overall could have been marketing magic for the Cats!
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 26, 2018 6:48:41 GMT -4
I can't believe they would pass on the opportunity to select a high-end euro and use that player as a publicity ploy to sell more tickets. Forget about which player would be more beneficial long-term vs short-term, but the fact they could use the 13th overall to create hype right before the season opens is very odd. You can't create a marketing campaign around Lecoutre, but that 13th overall could have been marketing magic for the Cats! It's mind boggling. It's the tail wagging the dog! |
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 26, 2018 8:03:52 GMT -4
I agree with all the comments, but there is something to be said for loyalty to your current players. I'd still rather draft a new guy, but showing the hockey world you stick with your guys goes a long way to helping convince players to come to your program in the future. On the other hand, if you cut a guy that has been here two years, in favour of a younger kid that you haven't really seen play, it doesn't reflect well on the team.
You know what you get with Le Coultre ... which in my opinion is not enough for this impact slot ... but there is an expectation of improvement from 18 to 19. We have seen many Dmen really break out in the Q at 19.
My real annoyance with this is we are gearing up for a 2019-20 contending season ... I think ... and Le Coultre won't be part of that. So we could use the high pick and select a 17 yo that would have a full year to develop before our contending season. If we pass this year, then we will have to draft next year at what will probably be around 40th overall, and that doesn't sit well with a contending season.
I don't think they are looking far enough ahead with this decision.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 26, 2018 8:33:21 GMT -4
I agree with all the comments, but there is something to be said for loyalty to your current players. I'd still rather draft a new guy, but showing the hockey world you stick with your guys goes a long way to helping convince players to come to your program in the future. On the other hand, if you cut a guy that has been here two years, in favour of a younger kid that you haven't really seen play, it doesn't reflect well on the team. You know what you get with Le Coultre ... which in my opinion is not enough for this impact slot ... but there is an expectation of improvement from 18 to 19. We have seen many Dmen really break out in the Q at 19. My real annoyance with this is we are gearing up for a 2019-20 contending season ... I think ... and Le Coultre won't be part of that. So we could use the high pick and select a 17 yo that would have a full year to develop before our contending season. If we pass this year, then we will have to draft next year at what will probably be around 40th overall, and that doesn't sit well with a contending season. I don't think they are looking far enough ahead with this decision. Pretty hard to sell loyalty with all the turnover the last 18 months, they basically turned over the team twice. I doubt keeping Lecoultre even moves the needle in regards to that. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 26, 2018 10:07:53 GMT -4
Not sure where else to post this and doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone but Jakob Pelletier has been invited to the U18 Ivan Hlinka camp, I fully expect he will make the team.
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