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Post by Citris on Nov 4, 2018 18:02:56 GMT -4
Cats play 3 on 3 is on another level. They dominated the OT period.
Re : McIsaac hit, Seitz clearly felt it was an elbow. I don't blame McIsaac for not "answering the bell". Seitz I know feels like he has to stand up for Pelletier, but you can't take a dumb penalty on a guy who won't go.
After the 1st intermission, the Wildcats cooled off and dropped the issue, and played much better for it.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Nov 4, 2018 18:05:20 GMT -4
Did Pelletier finish the game ?
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Post by hockey1981 on Nov 4, 2018 18:06:31 GMT -4
Did Pelletier finish the game ? Yes! |
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Post by Citris on Nov 4, 2018 18:17:46 GMT -4
Did Pelletier finish the game ? He didn't miss a shift. |
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Post by lirette on Nov 4, 2018 18:27:29 GMT -4
Cats play 3 on 3 is on another level. They dominated the OT period. Re : McIsaac hit, Seitz clearly felt it was an elbow. I don't blame McIsaac for not "answering the bell". Seitz I know feels like he has to stand up for Pelletier, but you can't take a dumb penalty on a guy who won't go. After the 1st intermission, the Wildcats cooled off and dropped the issue, and played much better for it. Looked more like interference to me. Pelletier never touched the puck. I'd have to see it in slow mo to see an elbow. |
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Post by Citris on Nov 4, 2018 18:40:47 GMT -4
Looked more like interference to me. Pelletier never touched the puck. I'd have to see it in slow mo to see an elbow. I'd have to see the play again, from what I remember the puck was right there, but I could be wrong, as for the elbow, I agree it's hard to tell, the elbow definitely came up during the follow-through, but if it made contact in any meaningful way is hard to tell. My gut tells me no since Pelletier didn't miss a shift and didn't seem any worse for wear because of it, but again, I could be wrong since I can't find the video. |
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Post by LLL on Nov 4, 2018 18:51:21 GMT -4
Gordie Howe hat trick for Hudson.
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Post by lirette on Nov 4, 2018 19:01:42 GMT -4
Looked more like interference to me. Pelletier never touched the puck. I'd have to see it in slow mo to see an elbow. I'd have to see the play again, from what I remember the puck was right there, but I could be wrong, as for the elbow, I agree it's hard to tell, the elbow definitely came up during the follow-through, but if it made contact in any meaningful way is hard to tell. My gut tells me no since Pelletier didn't miss a shift and didn't seem any worse for wear because of it, but again, I could be wrong since I can't find the video. There's a good look here Slowing it down to half speed the body contact is fine, I don't see an elbow there. In terms of interference its borderline for sure. He's not making any sort of play on the puck, but you are correct that the puck is "right there". |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Nov 4, 2018 19:47:15 GMT -4
Haven't seen #91 on the ice since the 1st period. Anyone know if he's on the bench? He left with an injury in the first period. |
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Post by Citris on Nov 4, 2018 19:54:19 GMT -4
There's a good look here Slowing it down to half speed the body contact is fine, I don't see an elbow there. In terms of interference its borderline for sure. He's not making any sort of play on the puck, but you are correct that the puck is "right there". Obviously I'm a going to be a bit biased, but I think that hit is fine. I think if it were Aspirot putting Parent on his ass like that I would be okay with it. To me I think Pelletier is clearly making a play for the puck, at that point I don't think it's interference. I think a second or two earlier when Pelletier isn't within a stick length (give or take a few inches) it's interference, but as it is that's a clean (big, but clean) hit. The Wildcats stay hot, really makes things interesting if they can stay with Halifax until Christmas. I think today showed a few things to me : Spence is amazing. He's going to be a top Dman in the league at 18 and 19, if he isn't there by March. Stewart can handle himself at this level... I'm surprised they didn't call up Nicholson, going with 5 D today makes me wonder if they need to add on Defense. You can't have a situation when 2 guys go down in the playoffs and you're stuck playing with 5 D, and as much as Stewart, DeJong, and Tucker handled themselves today, I wouldn't want them being double shifted in a playoff series. Up front, I think they're probably fine. Missing a few key guys and they still looked very dangerous. |
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Post by lirette on Nov 4, 2018 20:14:17 GMT -4
There's a good look here Slowing it down to half speed the body contact is fine, I don't see an elbow there. In terms of interference its borderline for sure. He's not making any sort of play on the puck, but you are correct that the puck is "right there". Obviously I'm a going to be a bit biased, but I think that hit is fine. I think if it were Aspirot putting Parent on his ass like that I would be okay with it. To me I think Pelletier is clearly making a play for the puck, at that point I don't think it's interference. I think a second or two earlier when Pelletier isn't within a stick length (give or take a few inches) it's interference, but as it is that's a clean (big, but clean) hit. The Wildcats stay hot, really makes things interesting if they can stay with Halifax until Christmas. I think today showed a few things to me : Spence is amazing. He's going to be a top Dman in the league at 18 and 19, if he isn't there by March. Stewart can handle himself at this level... I'm surprised they didn't call up Nicholson, going with 5 D today makes me wonder if they need to add on Defense. You can't have a situation when 2 guys go down in the playoffs and you're stuck playing with 5 D, and as much as Stewart, DeJong, and Tucker handled themselves today, I wouldn't want them being double shifted in a playoff series. Up front, I think they're probably fine. Missing a few key guys and they still looked very dangerous. They're essentially missing an entire line at FW if you include MacDonald who played 1 shift I think. The last 3-4 games S.Stewart has been able to make the most of his additional playing time. He's played his best hockey of the season and looks way more comfortable than the first month. His skating looks better too. There's going to be some difficult decisions come christmas if they are still in first..but at the moment I'd like to see them add a defenseman that can play top 4 minutes, but thats about it. If there's a deal out there where they could swap a 19 year old FW for an 18 year old D to help this year and next thats the perfect scenario, but I'm not going to pretend to know if that deal is possible. |
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Post by lahey55 on Nov 4, 2018 22:23:29 GMT -4
I'd have to see the play again, from what I remember the puck was right there, but I could be wrong, as for the elbow, I agree it's hard to tell, the elbow definitely came up during the follow-through, but if it made contact in any meaningful way is hard to tell. My gut tells me no since Pelletier didn't miss a shift and didn't seem any worse for wear because of it, but again, I could be wrong since I can't find the video. There's a good look here Slowing it down to half speed the body contact is fine, I don't see an elbow there. In terms of interference its borderline for sure. He's not making any sort of play on the puck, but you are correct that the puck is "right there". two for interference at the most there IMO |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 23:39:54 GMT -4
There's a good look here Slowing it down to half speed the body contact is fine, I don't see an elbow there. In terms of interference its borderline for sure. He's not making any sort of play on the puck, but you are correct that the puck is "right there". Obviously I'm a going to be a bit biased, but I think that hit is fine. I think if it were Aspirot putting Parent on his ass like that I would be okay with it. To me I think Pelletier is clearly making a play for the puck, at that point I don't think it's interference. I think a second or two earlier when Pelletier isn't within a stick length (give or take a few inches) it's interference, but as it is that's a clean (big, but clean) hit. The Wildcats stay hot, really makes things interesting if they can stay with Halifax until Christmas. I think today showed a few things to me : Spence is amazing. He's going to be a top Dman in the league at 18 and 19, if he isn't there by March. Stewart can handle himself at this level... I'm surprised they didn't call up Nicholson, going with 5 D today makes me wonder if they need to add on Defense. You can't have a situation when 2 guys go down in the playoffs and you're stuck playing with 5 D, and as much as Stewart, DeJong, and Tucker handled themselves today, I wouldn't want them being double shifted in a playoff series. Up front, I think they're probably fine. Missing a few key guys and they still looked very dangerous. That is an easy penalty call. On what planet is that borderline? Pelletier is chasing the puck he didn’t touch it...pretty well the definition of interference. |
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Post by Citris on Nov 5, 2018 0:09:13 GMT -4
That is an easy penalty call. On what planet is that borderline? Pelletier is chasing the puck he didn’t touch it...pretty well the definition of interference. On this planet, clearly. Look, I get it, your dude got hit. Watch the video, both guys sticks are within an inch of the puck, Jared beat him to it and got inside position, that's a perfectly legal check (assuming there was no elbow.). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 0:45:27 GMT -4
That is an easy penalty call. On what planet is that borderline? Pelletier is chasing the puck he didn’t touch it...pretty well the definition of interference. On this planet, clearly. Look, I get it, your dude got hit. Watch the video, both guys sticks are within an inch of the puck, Jared beat him to it and got inside position, that's a perfectly legal check (assuming there was no elbow.). I don’t have a dude...Pelletier is a non puck carrier chasing a loose puck. That hit is the definition of interference...your dude can have all the inside position he likes...Pelletier didn’t have the puck. It is not hard to understand and it is right on video. You don’t have a leg to stand on. He wasn’t the puck carrier...it’s easy to light a guy up who isn’t expecting to get hit because he didn’t have the puck. |
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