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Post by Slap Shooter on Sept 17, 2019 10:39:57 GMT -4
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Post by bois on Sept 17, 2019 10:46:56 GMT -4
yeah thats a very bad hit/shove... reckless... suspension well deserved
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Post by ysj28 on Sept 17, 2019 10:55:12 GMT -4
I am absolutely shocked that he was only given a minor on the play. That's a textbook match penalty.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 17, 2019 14:47:19 GMT -4
How he only gets 4 games for that is beyond me. That's inexcusable and the kind of thing that really needs a message sent that it will not be tolerated at all.
Not that I like either thing, but I'd rather see a Patrice Cormier head shot before seeing something like what Spadafore did.
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Post by Briwhel on Sept 17, 2019 15:12:02 GMT -4
How he only gets 4 games for that is beyond me. That's inexcusable and the kind of thing that really needs a message sent that it will not be tolerated at all. Not that I like either thing, but I'd rather see a Patrice Cormier head shot before seeing something like what Spadafore did. I thought 4 was harsh. The video was hard to see specifically but it looked like Jobin was in front of the red line (ie in scoring position). I fully agree that this is reckless and needed to be a suspension but guys need to stop standing with their backs to the world and thinking they are invincible. Otoh, if Jobin was behind the red line, this would be a non-hockey play and potentially double digit games. Again, I may have seen it wrong (I watched on my phone) |
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Post by islander19 on Sept 17, 2019 17:04:33 GMT -4
How he only gets 4 games for that is beyond me. That's inexcusable and the kind of thing that really needs a message sent that it will not be tolerated at all. Not that I like either thing, but I'd rather see a Patrice Cormier head shot before seeing something like what Spadafore did. I thought 4 was harsh. The video was hard to see specifically but it looked like Jobin was in front of the red line (ie in scoring position). I fully agree that this is reckless and needed to be a suspension but guys need to stop standing with their backs to the world and thinking they are invincible. Otoh, if Jobin was behind the red line, this would be a non-hockey play and potentially double digit games. Again, I may have seen it wrong (I watched on my phone) There’s no need to be ready to absorb the hit, he lost the puck multiple seconds before the hit (and it looks like he was already off balance). It’s a dirty hit...it has nothing to do where Jobin was standing in reference to the red line. |
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Post by j3e4 on Sept 17, 2019 17:20:49 GMT -4
I"m assuming since it was only 2 minutes that there must not have been an injury on the play. It still could have easily been more but I can't imagine it only being 2 if the player stayed down any length of time.
That's likely why it is only 4 games. Whether we agree or not, the league always seems to take the severity or lack of injury into account when making decisions about suspensions.
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Post by berner on Sept 17, 2019 18:02:09 GMT -4
I thought 4 was harsh. The video was hard to see specifically but it looked like Jobin was in front of the red line (ie in scoring position). I fully agree that this is reckless and needed to be a suspension but guys need to stop standing with their backs to the world and thinking they are invincible. Otoh, if Jobin was behind the red line, this would be a non-hockey play and potentially double digit games. Again, I may have seen it wrong (I watched on my phone) There’s no need to be ready to absorb the hit, he lost the puck multiple seconds before the hit (and it looks like he was already off balance). It’s a dirty hit...it has nothing to do where Jobin was standing in reference to the red line. This opinion as seen through Islanders-coloured glasses of course. Fair enough. |
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Post by juliansteed on Sept 17, 2019 22:25:34 GMT -4
How he only gets 4 games for that is beyond me. That's inexcusable and the kind of thing that really needs a message sent that it will not be tolerated at all. Not that I like either thing, but I'd rather see a Patrice Cormier head shot before seeing something like what Spadafore did. I thought 4 was harsh. The video was hard to see specifically but it looked like Jobin was in front of the red line (ie in scoring position). I fully agree that this is reckless and needed to be a suspension but guys need to stop standing with their backs to the world and thinking they are invincible. Otoh, if Jobin was behind the red line, this would be a non-hockey play and potentially double digit games. Again, I may have seen it wrong (I watched on my phone) I'd watch again on a larger screen. His back needs to be facing some direction. In this case he was facing the net because he was driving to the net with the puck. I don't think anyone could reasonably argue that he should have been facing some other direction. When Spadafore first initiated contact with him, he had the puck in scoring position, so fair enough. But that is not what the suspension was for. It's for the extra shove he gave him from behind towards the boards, after he no longer had the puck and by that point he was beside the net at the goal line. Edit - He was also in a bit of an awkward position because he was avoiding contacting with Patenaude right before it happened. Hard to put any of the blame on the victim on this one in my opinion. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 17, 2019 22:27:19 GMT -4
There’s no need to be ready to absorb the hit, he lost the puck multiple seconds before the hit (and it looks like he was already off balance). It’s a dirty hit...it has nothing to do where Jobin was standing in reference to the red line. This opinion as seen through Islanders-coloured glasses of course. Fair enough. At least he gave his opinion. Where is yours? Don't judge others lest Ye be judged yourself. I certainly am no Islanders fan and I think it was greasy and Spadafore got off light. Puppy paws is a SJSD fan, and while I maybe I'm wrong, I assume they at least think the suspension was justified as they commented that the other guy could have seriously been hurt. Gtsoc is a blue KOOLAID chugging champion, and even he can't figure out how Spadafore only got a minor penalty. Hell even Briwhel said unless it was below the redline, which I believe it was, so even he might think it warranted a tougher penalty. So what exactly is your opinion Berner? It's looking like, as seen through your SJSD colored glasses, that the Sea Dogs can do no wrong and anyone stating otherwise is completely biased, and wrong themselves. |
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Post by j3e4 on Sept 18, 2019 1:55:12 GMT -4
Not that it's likely to matter a whole lot since he's not part of the Top 6, but does last Saturday's pre-season game against CB count towards these 4 games or is it 4 regular season games?
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Post by berner on Sept 18, 2019 4:35:56 GMT -4
This opinion as seen through Islanders-coloured glasses of course. Fair enough. At least he gave his opinion. Where is yours? Don't judge others lest Ye be judged yourself. I certainly am no Islanders fan and I think it was greasy and Spadafore got off light. Puppy paws is a SJSD fan, and while I maybe I'm wrong, I assume they at least think the suspension was justified as they commented that the other guy could have seriously been hurt. Gtsoc is a blue KOOLAID chugging champion, and even he can't figure out how Spadafore only got a minor penalty. Hell even Briwhel said unless it was below the redline, which I believe it was, so even he might think it warranted a tougher penalty. So what exactly is your opinion Berner? It's looking like, as seen through your SJSD colored glasses, that the Sea Dogs can do no wrong and anyone stating otherwise is completely biased, and wrong themselves. Wow, what a call-out! I love it. My opinion is pretty simple. Spadafore made a bad decision that could have resulted in an injury. In-game he deserved more than a two minute minor but we’re all used to the reffing in this league. Regarding the suspension I don’t think he got off particularly light - in this case I think the league got it about right. I believe Islander19 is using a broken clock in his assessment, as multiple seconds did not pass between Jobin losing the puck and Spadafore making contact. It’s a fast game. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 18, 2019 7:29:11 GMT -4
At least he gave his opinion. Where is yours? Don't judge others lest Ye be judged yourself. I certainly am no Islanders fan and I think it was greasy and Spadafore got off light. Puppy paws is a SJSD fan, and while I maybe I'm wrong, I assume they at least think the suspension was justified as they commented that the other guy could have seriously been hurt. Gtsoc is a blue KOOLAID chugging champion, and even he can't figure out how Spadafore only got a minor penalty. Hell even Briwhel said unless it was below the redline, which I believe it was, so even he might think it warranted a tougher penalty. So what exactly is your opinion Berner? It's looking like, as seen through your SJSD colored glasses, that the Sea Dogs can do no wrong and anyone stating otherwise is completely biased, and wrong themselves. Wow, what a call-out! I love it. My opinion is pretty simple. Spadafore made a bad decision that could have resulted in an injury. In-game he deserved more than a two minute minor but we’re all used to the reffing in this league. Regarding the suspension I don’t think he got off particularly light - in this case I think the league got it about right. I believe Islander19 is using a broken clock in his assessment, as multiple seconds did not pass between Jobin losing the puck and Spadafore making contact. It’s a fast game. Not really a call out. More of a "bored as hell waiting for this season to start" deal.  I do agree with it being a fast game and the "broken clock" assessment. A lot less time went by than one might realize. My problem though is how the other player had his back turned and was away from the boards just enough for it to be very dangerous if someone comes along and checks/shoves them from behind, propelling them into those boards head first. There's no need of that happening, and the message needs to be sent more loudly. Just my opinion. He could have tried for his opponent's stick...or just grabbed him in a bear hug and pulled him down...whatever. If the fear was that the guy still might score there were many other ways to take a 2 minute minor to prevent that from happening that did not involve an act as dangerous as the choice he made. Just my opinion though. Its not any more correct or wrong than anyone else's, and the same applies the other way for yours. Cant wait for Friday and Saturday. Win or lose, hopefully we see 2 good games after all this waiting. |
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Post by L'il Boy on Sept 18, 2019 8:01:48 GMT -4
At least he gave his opinion. Where is yours? Don't judge others lest Ye be judged yourself. I certainly am no Islanders fan and I think it was greasy and Spadafore got off light. Puppy paws is a SJSD fan, and while I maybe I'm wrong, I assume they at least think the suspension was justified as they commented that the other guy could have seriously been hurt. Gtsoc is a blue KOOLAID chugging champion, and even he can't figure out how Spadafore only got a minor penalty. Hell even Briwhel said unless it was below the redline, which I believe it was, so even he might think it warranted a tougher penalty. So what exactly is your opinion Berner? It's looking like, as seen through your SJSD colored glasses, that the Sea Dogs can do no wrong and anyone stating otherwise is completely biased, and wrong themselves. Wow, what a call-out! I love it. My opinion is pretty simple. Spadafore made a bad decision that could have resulted in an injury. In-game he deserved more than a two minute minor but we’re all used to the reffing in this league. Regarding the suspension I don’t think he got off particularly light - in this case I think the league got it about right. I believe Islander19 is using a broken clock in his assessment, as multiple seconds did not pass between Jobin losing the puck and Spadafore making contact. It’s a fast game. I almost always ask this question in situations like this: Had that been Lawrence, or Stairs, or any one of the young stars that the Sea Dogs have, would you feel that 4 games was enough? There was absolutely no reason for Spadafore to push him like that. However, I agree that the league probably got it right; 4 games seems to be in line with what the league was handing out for the same infraction last year |
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