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Post by leftwinglock on Jan 21, 2020 13:34:24 GMT -4
Interesting podcast with Torchetti being interviewed. Saying Coaching Moncton was great but being the GM was a different beast all together. Said he and the owner had differences on how the team should be built and run.
Thoughts?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 21, 2020 13:50:59 GMT -4
I think he is trying to put a different spin on his departure so he can get another job. I doubt he uses RKI as a reference or anybody in the WC front office.
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Post by leftwinglock on Jan 21, 2020 13:57:29 GMT -4
I think he is trying to put a different spin on his departure so he can get another job. I doubt he uses RKI as a reference or anybody in the WC front office. yeah and remember a lot of people " knew the story" but just cause it's on this board doesn't mean is all factual. I think it's a combination of both things. I don't think a lot of coaches use RKI as a reference. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 21, 2020 14:08:29 GMT -4
I think he is trying to put a different spin on his departure so he can get another job. I doubt he uses RKI as a reference or anybody in the WC front office. yeah and remember a lot of people " knew the story" but just cause it's on this board doesn't mean is all factual. I think it's a combination of both things. I don't think a lot of coaches use RKI as a reference. A lot of what is posted here was fact. How many times have you seen a coach/GM that is top 2 in the league and top 5 in Canada get fired or quit? Saying it was philosophical differences as GM is comical. |
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Post by pong on Jan 21, 2020 15:05:59 GMT -4
Interesting podcast with Torchetti being interviewed. Saying Coaching Moncton was great but being the GM was a different beast all together. Said he and the owner had differences on how the team should be built and run. Thoughts? Where can we listen to this podcast? |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 21, 2020 15:06:23 GMT -4
I think he is trying to put a different spin on his departure so he can get another job. I doubt he uses RKI as a reference or anybody in the WC front office. yeah and remember a lot of people " knew the story" but just cause it's on this board doesn't mean is all factual. I think it's a combination of both things. I don't think a lot of coaches use RKI as a reference. There was no combination of things. It was an off ice incident that sealed his fate. Any talk re him and RKI is simply to try and make it appear as a philosophical difference to those who don't know the difference. |
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Post by leftwinglock on Jan 21, 2020 15:21:19 GMT -4
yeah and remember a lot of people " knew the story" but just cause it's on this board doesn't mean is all factual. I think it's a combination of both things. I don't think a lot of coaches use RKI as a reference. There was no combination of things. It was an off ice incident that sealed his fate. Any talk re him and RKI is simply to try and make it appear as a philosophical difference to those who don't know the difference. and you know this how? |
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 21, 2020 15:23:43 GMT -4
If it was a philosophical difference then he could actually be here still Coaching and relinquish is GM duties.
The bottom line for me is that the Irving group is very strict when it comes to vices, and they always have been. If you have something that takes your focus away from your work then you are living on borrowed time there. If you do something to tarnish the image of the company or harm the integrity of the brand you'll be quickly dismissed.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 21, 2020 15:23:45 GMT -4
There was no combination of things. It was an off ice incident that sealed his fate. Any talk re him and RKI is simply to try and make it appear as a philosophical difference to those who don't know the difference. and you know this how?  Common sense combined with conversations i've had with others who follow the league and work within it. |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 21, 2020 15:38:14 GMT -4
I have no doubt there were off-ice issues. How much though and how extreme? Hard to say. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were some exaggerations leaked from the Cats/Irving side to make themselves look more justified. Maybe not - I really have no idea. All I have to go on is stuff that people heard that came from inside the Cats organization.
I also have no doubt that there were philosophical differences. When Torchetti came here he talked about building something long term and sustainable. That could have just been lip service but either way "long term" and "sustainable" is not the direction the Cats went at the trade period. Not saying they were wrong in the direction they went, it just doesn't line up with what Torchetti supposedly envisioned.
Bottom line is that it's too bad he's not still here coaching. He gave the Cats a huge edge over the other contending teams in the playoffs. Does Lacroix give them that same edge over the likes of Jean, Grimes, Beausoleil and Julien? Not sure at this point. Hopefully he does, hopefully the Cats win it all and none of this Torchetti stuff ends up mattering.
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Post by pinkbeaver on Jan 21, 2020 16:24:05 GMT -4
I have no doubt there were off-ice issues. How much though and how extreme? Hard to say. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were some exaggerations leaked from the Cats/Irving side to make themselves look more justified. Maybe not - I really have no idea. All I have to go on is stuff that people heard that came from inside the Cats organization. I also have no doubt that there were philosophical differences. When Torchetti came here he talked about building something long term and sustainable. That could have just been lip service but either way "long term" and "sustainable" is not the direction the Cats went at the trade period. Not saying they were wrong in the direction they went, it just doesn't line up with what Torchetti supposedly envisioned. Bottom line is that it's too bad he's not still here coaching. He gave the Cats a huge edge over the other contending teams in the playoffs. Does Lacroix give them that same edge over the likes of Jean, Grimes, Beausoleil and Julien? Not sure at this point. Hopefully he does, hopefully the Cats win it all and none of this Torchetti stuff ends up mattering. Yeah there was no denying he was a high end coach from the moment he stepped behind the Cats bench. I find it quite Brazen to jump on a podcast and discuss the matter at all if the rumors are as bad as they sound. Perhaps it is a little overblown. I would think he would be trying to avoid media attention if he was dismissed for something severe. He obviously knows RKI can control the narrative far more effectively than he can, so trying to share blame for a matter that he was the cause of doesn't sound smart |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 21, 2020 16:48:42 GMT -4
I have no doubt there were off-ice issues. How much though and how extreme? Hard to say. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were some exaggerations leaked from the Cats/Irving side to make themselves look more justified. Maybe not - I really have no idea. All I have to go on is stuff that people heard that came from inside the Cats organization. I also have no doubt that there were philosophical differences. When Torchetti came here he talked about building something long term and sustainable. That could have just been lip service but either way "long term" and "sustainable" is not the direction the Cats went at the trade period. Not saying they were wrong in the direction they went, it just doesn't line up with what Torchetti supposedly envisioned. Bottom line is that it's too bad he's not still here coaching. He gave the Cats a huge edge over the other contending teams in the playoffs. Does Lacroix give them that same edge over the likes of Jean, Grimes, Beausoleil and Julien? Not sure at this point. Hopefully he does, hopefully the Cats win it all and none of this Torchetti stuff ends up mattering. Yeah there was no denying he was a high end coach from the moment he stepped behind the Cats bench. I find it quite Brazen to jump on a podcast and discuss the matter at all if the rumors are as bad as they sound. Perhaps it is a little overblown. I would think he would be trying to avoid media attention if he was dismissed for something severe. He obviously knows RKI can control the narrative far more effectively than he can, so trying to share blame for a matter that he was the cause of doesn't sound smart If I was him i'd be all over the media attention because i'd feel no shame in my dismissal and wouldn't want to be labeled as something i'm not at a time where people are being blamed for things they did a decade ago or more. I'd want people to know that my dismissal wasn't because of how shitty I treated someone in 2008 for example. |
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Post by hockeylaw on Jan 21, 2020 18:36:56 GMT -4
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Post by jimmy on Oct 26, 2021 10:18:26 GMT -4
Resurrecting this really old thread ... I was curious the other day and decided to Google what Torchetti was up to ... it appears he has not coached anywhere since leaving the Wildcats. If he is working anywhere in hockey, he seems to be keeping a very low profile. If you look at his team staff profile on eliteprospects.com , this will be the longest he has ever gone between gigs in his career ... which definitely seems to lend some credence to the story that whatever happened in Moncton, it was more than philosophical differences and would appear to have had a long term negative career impact on him.
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Post by catnut on Oct 26, 2021 10:26:48 GMT -4
Resurrecting this really old thread ... I was curious the other day and decided to Google what Torchetti was up to ... it appears he has not coached anywhere since leaving the Wildcats. If he is working anywhere in hockey, he seems to be keeping a very low profile. If you look at his team staff profile on eliteprospects.com , this will be the longest he has ever gone between gigs in his career ... which definitely seems to lend some credence to the story that whatever happened in Moncton, it was more than philosophical differences and would appear to have had a long term negative career impact on him. Only thing I've heard from him since was comments he made about the 2010 Chicago Black Hawks. |
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