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Post by joehockey on Jul 21, 2020 18:08:05 GMT -4
Someone pointed out to me something that should have been obvious. With the 2 week quarantine, don't be surprised if that means no Badalamenti Spadafore Americans. We'll probably be Atlantic heavy. Spadafore is Canadian right? Do you think it’s possible that the Seadogs wouldn’t bring him to camp because he would have to quarantine? If that’s the case then I wonder whether they will only invite the Quebec players that they think will make the team. Obviously less of a concern for Saint John since they have essentially picked the vast majority of their team, but it will be interesting to see how this plays out. |
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Post by berner on Jul 21, 2020 18:08:06 GMT -4
Someone pointed out to me something that should have been obvious. With the 2 week quarantine, don't be surprised if that means no Badalamenti Spadafore Americans. We'll probably be Atlantic heavy. I don’t think a 14 day isolation will get in the way. |
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Post by Briwhel on Jul 21, 2020 18:19:58 GMT -4
Someone pointed out to me something that should have been obvious. With the 2 week quarantine, don't be surprised if that means no Badalamenti Spadafore Americans. We'll probably be Atlantic heavy. I don’t think a 14 day isolation will get in the way. Wont stop guys like Drapeau or Patella. An American either has to commit or pay for the 2 weeks. Badalamenti and Spadafore don't make sense to quarantine for 2 weeks just to come to a camp where they have little chance of making it. |
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Post by berner on Jul 21, 2020 18:26:24 GMT -4
I don’t think a 14 day isolation will get in the way. Wont stop guys like Drapeau or Patella. An American either has to commit or pay for the 2 weeks. Badalamenti and Spadafore don't make sense to quarantine for 2 weeks just to come to a camp where they have little chance of making it. Little chance of making it perhaps, but a good showing at camp can open an opportunity with another Q team if that is what they are looking for. No camp pretty well eliminates that opportunity. |
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Post by Briwhel on Jul 21, 2020 18:36:57 GMT -4
Wont stop guys like Drapeau or Patella. An American either has to commit or pay for the 2 weeks. Badalamenti and Spadafore don't make sense to quarantine for 2 weeks just to come to a camp where they have little chance of making it. Little chance of making it perhaps, but a good showing at camp can open an opportunity with another Q team if that is what they are looking for. No camp pretty well eliminates that opportunity. In a perfect world, both go to camp with a team where they could make it and we have a trade in place if they do. |
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Post by j3e4 on Jul 21, 2020 20:20:03 GMT -4
Hockey skillset/position aside, the difference between Badalamenti and Spadafore is that Badalamenti would need to quarantine for 14 days no matter what if he's to play anywhere in the CHL. Spadafore likely only needs to quarantine if he ends up playing for a Maritime team. And I'd say there's a more realistic chance there's a spot somewhere for Badalamenti than there is for Spadafore.
I think Badalamenti can battle for a spot on the Sea Dogs but it will be an uphill battle. As of right now he appears to be the odd 20 out as it looks like we'll go with a goalie and 2 forwards. Early last season he looked like our best 2000 born player. He kind of cooled off and a couple other guys have since been acquired, and Gould brings a style of play that this team will need. If we weren't already crowded at forward, I'd have been fine with keeping all 3 of Gould MacDonald, and Badalamenti and finding a serviceable 19 year old goalie.
Even if Badalamenti doesnt make the Sea Dogs, I think there could be a few teams interested in him. How much interest there is could all depend on whether or not some guys that would typically play pro at 20 end up back in the Q next season because of COVID.
As for Spadafore, there's clearly no room for him on the team. Without knowing all the other teams' rosters and 20 year old situations, I'm not sure if there'd be a ton of interest. I'd try to find a place for him to play but would not ask him to quarantine when it's obvious he won't be making the team and there's limited training camp spots anyway.
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Post by berner on Jul 21, 2020 20:41:34 GMT -4
Little chance of making it perhaps, but a good showing at camp can open an opportunity with another Q team if that is what they are looking for. No camp pretty well eliminates that opportunity. In a perfect world, both go to camp with a team where they could make it and we have a trade in place if they do. Most definitely. But the world is far from perfect 😂 |
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Post by seaofblue on Jul 25, 2020 18:41:27 GMT -4
I don't think 34 is a hard number to hit for SJ. In nets, I would have 3 guys with Pags and D'Orazio being locks. If Patenaude is available, he's in camp and there are no open spots this year. If not, bring in Savoie to compete for backup. On D, I bring 12. Villeneuve, Poirier, Desroches, McCallum, Inniss, Hampl, Sibley, Drapeau are all locks. From there,I see who is willing to come of Richard, Ramsay, Cliche, Furey, Miranda. Depending on their answers I invite Gartley, Spadafore, Mccluskey, Gallant/Kakouras (hope I didn't forget anyone). Up front, that leaves 19. 11 are locks: Roy, Burns, Reynolds, C MacDonald, Lawrence, Stairs, Girouard, Carruthers, Drover, Gould, Savoie. Anderson MacDonald, Carter Mccluskey and Simon Hughes will be invited. Then we see who comes of Svechkov, MacDonald, Jenkins, Patella, Taddia, Callow. The last fwds if guys say no is the hardest call but again I think that establishing a defendable criterion would make the process feasible. Otoh, I do not envy a team like Moncton that would otherwise invite 65. Locks (20+1): LW Burns LW Girouard LW C.MacDonald LW C.Savoie C Lawrence C Roy C Reynolds C Carruthers RW A. MacDonald RW Drover RW Stairs RW Gould LD Poirier LD Hampl LD McCallum RD Villeneuve RD Inniss RD Desroches G Patenaude G Pagliarulo --- RW Svechkov Maritime Camp Invites (12): C C.Richard LW Carter McCluskey LW MacIntosh LW Hughes RW Bezeau LD Gartley LD Ramsey LD Gallant LD Sibley LD Connor McCluskey LD Spadafore (OA + Ontario-born, but can be a vet presence in camp and likely playing Jr. A in Maritimes next year). G M.Savoie Quebec/Ontario Camp Invites (8+2): C Gagnon C Patella C LaForge RW Vander Voet LD Mianscum LD Drapeau RD Kakouras G D'Orazio (although if he goes back to SSM, he may not stay long or come at all). --- LD G.Richard (personally I think he either commits 100% or does not come to camp at all) RD Cliche (more likely he gets traded if he wants to come to the QMJHL; I doubt he gives up the USHL and his NCAA eligibility to be a #7) I do not think they invite any Americans outside of Gould, who should be in the lineup next year. Too many risks, and none of them are likely going to make the team/commit anyways. Badalamenti will likely just tryout for a USHL team next year. If they are keeping camp lean, ~40 guys is reasonable... And they could easily cut another 5-10 guys if they are only allowed to bring 30 or 35 to camp. As for Svechkov, I imagine that he could be a mid-season addition. Russian hockey will likely start on time, so he may decide to stay there to start, but could come over in December/January. A trio of high caliber imports did that last year (Malik, Mysak and Chromiak) while I know Jaromir Pytlik did the same thing two years ago. In the meantime, I imagine Drover could take his spot in the lineup and build some trade value. I have little doubt Svechkov will come over eventually though. He would get a lot more exposure in Saint John, with at least 2 other high quality NHL prospects on the team in MacDonald and Reynolds, than on a lower-tier Russian club like Togliatti. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jul 26, 2020 15:19:05 GMT -4
I don't think 34 is a hard number to hit for SJ. In nets, I would have 3 guys with Pags and D'Orazio being locks. If Patenaude is available, he's in camp and there are no open spots this year. If not, bring in Savoie to compete for backup. On D, I bring 12. Villeneuve, Poirier, Desroches, McCallum, Inniss, Hampl, Sibley, Drapeau are all locks. From there,I see who is willing to come of Richard, Ramsay, Cliche, Furey, Miranda. Depending on their answers I invite Gartley, Spadafore, Mccluskey, Gallant/Kakouras (hope I didn't forget anyone). Up front, that leaves 19. 11 are locks: Roy, Burns, Reynolds, C MacDonald, Lawrence, Stairs, Girouard, Carruthers, Drover, Gould, Savoie. Anderson MacDonald, Carter Mccluskey and Simon Hughes will be invited. Then we see who comes of Svechkov, MacDonald, Jenkins, Patella, Taddia, Callow. The last fwds if guys say no is the hardest call but again I think that establishing a defendable criterion would make the process feasible. Otoh, I do not envy a team like Moncton that would otherwise invite 65. Locks (20+1): LW Burns LW Girouard LW C.MacDonald LW C.Savoie C Lawrence C Roy C Reynolds C Carruthers RW A. MacDonald RW Drover RW Stairs RW Gould LD Poirier LD Hampl LD McCallum RD Villeneuve RD Inniss RD Desroches G Patenaude G Pagliarulo --- RW Svechkov Maritime Camp Invites (12): C C.Richard LW Carter McCluskey LW MacIntosh LW Hughes RW Bezeau LD Gartley LD Ramsey LD Gallant LD Sibley LD Connor McCluskey LD Spadafore (OA + Ontario-born, but can be a vet presence in camp and likely playing Jr. A in Maritimes next year). G M.Savoie Quebec/Ontario Camp Invites (8+2): C Gagnon C Patella C LaForge RW Vander Voet LD Mianscum LD Drapeau RD Kakouras G D'Orazio (although if he goes back to SSM, he may not stay long or come at all). --- LD G.Richard (personally I think he either commits 100% or does not come to camp at all) RD Cliche (more likely he gets traded if he wants to come to the QMJHL; I doubt he gives up the USHL and his NCAA eligibility to be a #7) I do not think they invite any Americans outside of Gould, who should be in the lineup next year. Too many risks, and none of them are likely going to make the team/commit anyways. Badalamenti will likely just tryout for a USHL team next year. If they are keeping camp lean, ~40 guys is reasonable... And they could easily cut another 5-10 guys if they are only allowed to bring 30 or 35 to camp. As for Svechkov, I imagine that he could be a mid-season addition. Russian hockey will likely start on time, so he may decide to stay there to start, but could come over in December/January. A trio of high caliber imports did that last year (Malik, Mysak and Chromiak) while I know Jaromir Pytlik did the same thing two years ago. In the meantime, I imagine Drover could take his spot in the lineup and build some trade value. I have little doubt Svechkov will come over eventually though. He would get a lot more exposure in Saint John, with at least 2 other high quality NHL prospects on the team in MacDonald and Reynolds, than on a lower-tier Russian club like Togliatti. I'm not sure if you have more info about Svechkov and the possibility of him reporting but it would be great if he does show up. Also if the CHL does allow teams to start having 4 twenty year olds would be awesome as well. The only bad thing would be that it would take away ice time from some of the other young guys and would probably force them to trade one of them. There should be some very good 20s available and could really put this team in a real good position. I'm not saying a championship team but we could make it to the semis or the finals. |
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Post by j3e4 on Jul 26, 2020 17:22:55 GMT -4
I think other teams would benefit more from a 4th 20 than the Sea Dogs would so I kind of hope it doesn't happen. I did like Badalamenti and wouldn't mind seeing him back but there's barely enough room for all the forwards as it is.
A 4th 20 (D) would have been great in 2011-2012. Also could have kept Del Paggio in 2016-2017.
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Post by killer on Aug 4, 2020 14:44:13 GMT -4
Connor Richard traded to the Wildcats for 20 year old Liam Leonard...
Interesting trade which provides more questions about the current 20 year olds on the roster.
Anthony Pagliarulo, acquired at the draft and fills a need we currently have ( platoon/ back up goaltender). Have they chosen a different option?
Anderson MacDonald, has he worn out his welcome with the club? ( purely speculation)
Matt Gould, can he even physically make it to Saint John to play this season? With the border being closed it may present a major problem for the Sea Dogs and other teams alike to get players to training camp.
Spadafore and Badalamenti are likely on the outside looking in....
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Post by pinkbeaver on Aug 4, 2020 20:18:53 GMT -4
Connor Richard traded to the Wildcats for 20 year old Liam Leonard... Interesting trade which provides more questions about the current 20 year olds on the roster. Anthony Pagliarulo, acquired at the draft and fills a need we currently have ( platoon/ back up goaltender). Have they chosen a different option? Anderson MacDonald, has he worn out his welcome with the club? ( purely speculation) Matt Gould, can he even physically make it to Saint John to play this season? With the border being closed it may present a major problem for the Sea Dogs and other teams alike to get players to training camp. Spadafore and Badalamenti are likely on the outside looking in.... My guess is they feel good about there other goalie options. However, it does provide insurance as well in case the Badalmenti and/or gould have travel issues |
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Post by berner on Aug 4, 2020 20:52:40 GMT -4
No doubt two of our 20s come opening day will be Pags and Leonard. One spot left. Could we see a trio of new Seadogs in the 20 slots?
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Post by Slap Shooter on Aug 5, 2020 8:11:16 GMT -4
Has there been a ruling yet on the number of 20's you can carry this year? I wonder if they know that we will be allowed 4 and brought in Leonard. Definitely possible that Gould may not be allowed across the border or has other options.
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Post by j3e4 on Aug 5, 2020 13:08:21 GMT -4
Looks like American players are being denied entry. That's likely why the move was made to acquire another 20 year old. Can't really argue with the rule but it's too bad for Matt Gould. He was interviewed a few weeks ago and seemed very excited for the upcoming season. Of the returning players, he was by far the best defensively.
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