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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 15, 2020 11:39:18 GMT -4
What do we think is going to happen with 4- 20s now? is the 3 allowed for the whole year? Can you dress 4 until XMAS? Who's the odd man out I wonder? If you can't trade until xmas they'll likely be sent down to another league until then and then traded? My guess is they will rotate Cornish and Hudson until something happens with the AHL. |
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Post by bumper on Sept 15, 2020 13:43:45 GMT -4
Not agreeing with you at all with point of view. The MHL is one of the weakest leagues in the Jr. A circuit unfortunately. While the MHL is fine and dandy for what it is but it’s not a feeder league for the Q. You’ll see guys who go through the league that go on to be successful in the Q but for the most part, they’re just not good enough. 100% disagree with you on this. That is your opinion and that is respected The MHL generally is as strong as most of the other Jr A leagues in the Country. I would agree that the BCHL is likely a step above the rest and the AJHL has had some very strong teams over the years. A lot of MHL Alumni have immediately done very well upon their first year in the QMJHL. Just in Moncton without me thinking too deep . . . Jordan Spence, Zack MacEwen, Andrew MacDonald, Zach Sill, etc, etc, etc 2012 - Woodstock won the Fred Page Cup and lost in Royal Bank Cup Final, 2013 Truro won the Fred Page Cup, Summerside lost in the Royal Bank Cup Final, 2014 Truro lost in the Fred Page Cup Semi Final, 2015 Dieppe lost in the Fred Page Cup Final Everyone one of those teams was there with the best teams in the Country during those years. |
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 15, 2020 13:51:26 GMT -4
What do we think is going to happen with 4- 20s now? is the 3 allowed for the whole year? Can you dress 4 until XMAS? Who's the odd man out I wonder? If you can't trade until xmas they'll likely be sent down to another league until then and then traded? 20 yr olds can be traded at anytime up to the roster freeze in later January. Until Usnik comes, DL-C will dress every game, and I can't see sitting DeJong or Fortier. So right now, Hudson is on the outside looking in. I half expect Fortier to be traded to a contender sooner than later, because we have too many. |
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 15, 2020 13:52:15 GMT -4
What do we think is going to happen with 4- 20s now? is the 3 allowed for the whole year? Can you dress 4 until XMAS? Who's the odd man out I wonder? If you can't trade until xmas they'll likely be sent down to another league until then and then traded? My guess is they will rotate Cornish and Hudson until something happens with the AHL. Who do they dress in goal when DLC is sitting out ? I doubt DLC sits at all until Usnik arrives. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 15, 2020 14:00:04 GMT -4
What do we think is going to happen with 4- 20s now? is the 3 allowed for the whole year? Can you dress 4 until XMAS? Who's the odd man out I wonder? If you can't trade until xmas they'll likely be sent down to another league until then and then traded? 20 yr olds can be traded at anytime up to the roster freeze in later January. Until Usnik comes, DL-C will dress every game, and I can't see sitting DeJong or Fortier. So right now, Hudson is on the outside looking in. I half expect Fortier to be traded to a contender sooner than later, because we have too many. I think they are trying to get Euros in by the start of the season, or close after. |
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 15, 2020 14:04:04 GMT -4
The MHL is one of the weakest leagues in the Jr. A circuit unfortunately. While the MHL is fine and dandy for what it is but it’s not a feeder league for the Q. You’ll see guys who go through the league that go on to be successful in the Q but for the most part, they’re just not good enough. 100% disagree with you on this. That is your opinion and that is respected The MHL generally is as strong as most of the other Jr A leagues in the Country. I would agree that the BCHL is likely a step above the rest and the AJHL has had some very strong teams over the years. A lot of MHL Alumni have immediately done very well upon their first year in the QMJHL. Just in Moncton without me thinking too deep . . . Jordan Spence, Zack MacEwen, Andrew MacDonald, Zach Sill, etc, etc, etc 2012 - Woodstock won the Fred Page Cup and lost in Royal Bank Cup Final, 2013 Truro won the Fred Page Cup, Summerside lost in the Royal Bank Cup Final, 2014 Truro lost in the Fred Page Cup Semi Final, 2015 Dieppe lost in the Fred Page Cup Final Everyone one of those teams was there with the best teams in the Country during those years. On the whole, the MHL is a weaker league. Anybody can load up for a run and be a very strong team but that doesn't make the league stronger. In your post you started out by saying that you 100% disagreed with his post ... and then on the next line you said I would agree that the BCHL is likely a step above the rest and the AJHL has had some very strong teams over the years" That seems like at least 10% of his original post that you agreed with. Zack MacEwan was never that good here in Moncton (not a guy you saw in the NHL), and that's why he was let go for peanuts ... he was a very late bloomer. Zack Sill came from NCAA initially and was an NCAA holdout so he skipped the Q out of Midget ... Andrew MacDonald had an NCAA commitment ... Jordan Spence was missed by everybody but I'll give you that one. There are always some good players in the MHL because they are hoping for NCAA offers, but a large majority of the players are Q drafted and just going to be injury callups to the Q. Some will continue on to play some CIS, but many of them become beer league players after Jr A. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 15, 2020 14:06:58 GMT -4
100% disagree with you on this. That is your opinion and that is respected The MHL generally is as strong as most of the other Jr A leagues in the Country. I would agree that the BCHL is likely a step above the rest and the AJHL has had some very strong teams over the years. A lot of MHL Alumni have immediately done very well upon their first year in the QMJHL. Just in Moncton without me thinking too deep . . . Jordan Spence, Zack MacEwen, Andrew MacDonald, Zach Sill, etc, etc, etc 2012 - Woodstock won the Fred Page Cup and lost in Royal Bank Cup Final, 2013 Truro won the Fred Page Cup, Summerside lost in the Royal Bank Cup Final, 2014 Truro lost in the Fred Page Cup Semi Final, 2015 Dieppe lost in the Fred Page Cup Final Everyone one of those teams was there with the best teams in the Country during those years. On the whole, the MHL is a weaker league. Anybody can load up for a run and be a very strong team but that doesn't make the league stronger. In your post you started out by saying that you 100% disagreed with his post ... and then on the next line you said I would agree that the BCHL is likely a step above the rest and the AJHL has had some very strong teams over the years" That seems like at least 10% of his original post that you agreed with. Zack MacEwan was never that good here in Moncton (not a guy you saw in the NHL), and that's why he was let go for peanuts ... he was a very late bloomer. Zack Sill came from NCAA initially and was an NCAA holdout so he skipped the Q out of Midget ... Andrew MacDonald had an NCAA commitment ... Jordan Spence was missed by everybody but I'll give you that one. There are always some good players in the MHL because they are hoping for NCAA offers, but a large majority of the players are Q drafted and just going to be injury callups to the Q. Some will continue on to play some CIS, but many of them become beer league players after Jr A. BCHL and AJHL are the top 2, then the CJHL near Ottawa is slightly stronger than the Maritime League, after that it's pretty wide open. there is a pretty long list of MJHL players that became Q regulars and others became very good AUS players, which is loaded with CHL players and the strongest conference in Canada. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Sept 15, 2020 14:13:09 GMT -4
The MHL is one of the weakest leagues in the Jr. A circuit unfortunately. While the MHL is fine and dandy for what it is but it’s not a feeder league for the Q. You’ll see guys who go through the league that go on to be successful in the Q but for the most part, they’re just not good enough. 100% disagree with you on this. That is your opinion and that is respected The MHL generally is as strong as most of the other Jr A leagues in the Country. I would agree that the BCHL is likely a step above the rest and the AJHL has had some very strong teams over the years. A lot of MHL Alumni have immediately done very well upon their first year in the QMJHL. Just in Moncton without me thinking too deep . . . Jordan Spence, Zack MacEwen, Andrew MacDonald, Zach Sill, etc, etc, etc 2012 - Woodstock won the Fred Page Cup and lost in Royal Bank Cup Final, 2013 Truro won the Fred Page Cup, Summerside lost in the Royal Bank Cup Final, 2014 Truro lost in the Fred Page Cup Semi Final, 2015 Dieppe lost in the Fred Page Cup Final Everyone one of those teams was there with the best teams in the Country during those years. Yeah but we’re not talking about 1 team being as good as the others, 1 team being as good as any other team, doesn’t make the league as strong as others overall. It’s the same argument that people give about the Q... they’ve had exceptional success at the Memorial Cup but when you look at the league, from top to bottom, it’s still the weakest of the 3. The MHL is on par with the QJAAAHL. The BCHL and AJHL are vastly superior, the SJHL, MJHL, CCHL and OJHL are better leagues, they turn more guys into NCAA Div 1 Commitments and push guys to other leagues at a higher rate then the MHL. I don’t have any hate for the MHL but it’s the Q graveyard. It’s where 18/19/20 year olds go to play after it’s been decided they can’t hack it in the Q. It’s an option for maritime guys who’ve aged out to play after midget at a high level but it’s not a league where guys go to develop for the Q or to get an NCAA commitment. MHL alumni can do well in the Q, the same as any other league but it’s not a league teams send guys to for development to come up to the Q. It’s a league you can find hidden gems in, there’s no doubt about it but that still doesn’t make it a better league then the other ones. |
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Post by hockeyfanattic on Sept 15, 2020 17:49:12 GMT -4
Hoping the jersey numbers on the website are an indication of the roster. The numbers give a shot to a couple local kids to be called up as required from MHL or U18. It would suggest Casey would be playing for fredericton, which would be surprising to me as they likely had to agree to some sort of school package to get him to play exhibition games. Maybe its for guaranteed spot next year. Same with Iasenza. Figured once they played exhibition they'd be staying long term. Maybe the jersey number assignments mean nothing......I guess time will tell.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Sept 15, 2020 17:51:48 GMT -4
Hoping the jersey numbers on the website are an indication of the roster. The numbers give a shot to a couple local kids to be called up as required from MHL or U18. It would suggest Casey would be playing for fredericton, which would be surprising to me as they likely had to agree to some sort of school package to get him to play exhibition games. Maybe its for guaranteed spot next year. Same with Iasenza. Figured once they played exhibition they'd be staying long term. Maybe the jersey number assignments mean nothing......I guess time will tell. its not like they were playing the NCAA card so them playing in exhibiton games and being sent back at 16 isn't surprising at all |
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Post by MLeBlancA on Sept 15, 2020 18:49:17 GMT -4
Lalancette said yesterday that Fortier will return to AHL December 1st.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Sept 15, 2020 18:53:53 GMT -4
Lalancette said yesterday that Fortier will return to AHL December 1st. That’s if it starts on time. However if it gets pushed back I can see Tampa agreeing to let him play out the year if he’s being traded to a contender |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 16, 2020 7:38:37 GMT -4
Lalancette said yesterday that Fortier will return to AHL December 1st. That’s if it starts on time. However if it gets pushed back I can see Tampa agreeing to let him play out the year if he’s being traded to a contender Yeah, there are a lot of moving parts there. It's not like he lit up the league at 19. If there is a short AHL season and no ECHL they may let him play in the Q. |
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Post by hockeyfanattic on Sept 16, 2020 10:09:01 GMT -4
Hoping the jersey numbers on the website are an indication of the roster. The numbers give a shot to a couple local kids to be called up as required from MHL or U18. It would suggest Casey would be playing for fredericton, which would be surprising to me as they likely had to agree to some sort of school package to get him to play exhibition games. Maybe its for guaranteed spot next year. Same with Iasenza. Figured once they played exhibition they'd be staying long term. Maybe the jersey number assignments mean nothing......I guess time will tell. its not like they were playing the NCAA card so them playing in exhibiton games and being sent back at 16 isn't surprising at all Well.....I assume Casey was playing the NCAA card. He went to a private school in the states as is the case for many NCAA hopefuls. While he wasn't committed necessarily, it makes for a bargaining chip before playing an exhibition game which immediately eliminates NCAA for the future. My guess is they've signed him for the future (if not this year), and its costing them schooling. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 16, 2020 10:18:36 GMT -4
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