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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Dec 15, 2020 11:45:24 GMT -4
I can't see a complete firesale happening like in 2016/2017 but the Wildcats have a few assets that will interest contending teams.
Covid will certainly lower a player's value but here is what I'd like to see as a return with all things considered:
Spence - Top prospect, 1st and 2nd
Groulx - Early to mid 2nd
Fortier - Mid to late 2nd
Daoust - Two 2nds and 6th
DeJong - Mid 3rd
S. Stewart: Late 3rd and 6th
If Anaheim and Tampa agree to let Groulx/Fortier stay in the Q for the whole season, they will easily be an upgrade on a contending team's overagers.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 15, 2020 12:07:02 GMT -4
I can't see a complete firesale happening like in 2016/2017 but the Wildcats have a few assets that will interest contending teams. Covid will certainly lower a player's value but here is what I'd like to see as a return with all things considered: Spence - Top prospect, 1st and 2nd Groulx - Early to mid 2nd Fortier - Mid to late 2nd Daoust - Two 2nds and 6th DeJong - Mid 3rd S. Stewart: Late 3rd and 6th If Anaheim and Tampa agree to let Groulx/Fortier stay in the Q for the whole season, they will easily be an upgrade on a contending team's overagers. Most of the deals will be conditional obviously. I think Groulx Fortier and DeJong would be much higher. Groulx and Fortier(assuming their NHL club leaves them in the Q) would be worth at minimum a 1st and 2nd rounder(Groulx for sure). |
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Post by Doublesnipers on Dec 15, 2020 12:27:13 GMT -4
I can't see a complete firesale happening like in 2016/2017 but the Wildcats have a few assets that will interest contending teams. Covid will certainly lower a player's value but here is what I'd like to see as a return with all things considered: Spence - Top prospect, 1st and 2nd Groulx - Early to mid 2nd Fortier - Mid to late 2nd Daoust - Two 2nds and 6th DeJong - Mid 3rd S. Stewart: Late 3rd and 6th If Anaheim and Tampa agree to let Groulx/Fortier stay in the Q for the whole season, they will easily be an upgrade on a contending team's overagers. Did I miss something somewhere? It’s one thing to project value on Fortier as he has been with us for our first half ( shortened) season. Is Groulx returning to the Cats after not having played the first half of the season? Or are you just speaking in hypotheticals? |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Dec 15, 2020 12:46:35 GMT -4
I can't see a complete firesale happening like in 2016/2017 but the Wildcats have a few assets that will interest contending teams. Covid will certainly lower a player's value but here is what I'd like to see as a return with all things considered: Spence - Top prospect, 1st and 2nd Groulx - Early to mid 2nd Fortier - Mid to late 2nd Daoust - Two 2nds and 6th DeJong - Mid 3rd S. Stewart: Late 3rd and 6th If Anaheim and Tampa agree to let Groulx/Fortier stay in the Q for the whole season, they will easily be an upgrade on a contending team's overagers. Did I miss something somewhere? It’s one thing to project value on Fortier as he has been with us for our first half ( shortened) season. Is Groulx returning to the Cats after not having played the first half of the season? Or are you just speaking in hypotheticals? He's still on Moncton's protected list. His rights can be traded. If Anaheim thinks playing in the Q is best for his development, they will send him back to juniors. |
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 15, 2020 12:54:37 GMT -4
I can't see a complete firesale happening like in 2016/2017 but the Wildcats have a few assets that will interest contending teams. Covid will certainly lower a player's value but here is what I'd like to see as a return with all things considered: Spence - Top prospect, 1st and 2nd Groulx - Early to mid 2nd Fortier - Mid to late 2nd Daoust - Two 2nds and 6th DeJong - Mid 3rd S. Stewart: Late 3rd and 6th If Anaheim and Tampa agree to let Groulx/Fortier stay in the Q for the whole season, they will easily be an upgrade on a contending team's overagers. I don't think prices will be that low. They'll be conditional deals, and if the playoffs are completed for the receiving team then they pay full value, if the playoffs are not completed then its a lesser value. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 15, 2020 12:56:59 GMT -4
Did I miss something somewhere? It’s one thing to project value on Fortier as he has been with us for our first half ( shortened) season. Is Groulx returning to the Cats after not having played the first half of the season? Or are you just speaking in hypotheticals? He's still on Moncton's protected list. His rights can be traded. If Anaheim thinks playing in the Q is best for his development, they will send him back to juniors. I think for most guys like Groulx Fortier and co who are good but not great prospects, part of the equation will be how NHL rosters shake out and if those teams have ECHL affiliates. I wonder if some players ask to stay an extra year junior because playing AHL in the US with a pandemic only getting worse(in the short term) might happen. There are hotspots in Canada, but right now the whole country is a hotspot in the US and the Christmas/New Years holidays will just make things worse. |
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Post by jimmy on Dec 15, 2020 13:15:22 GMT -4
He's still on Moncton's protected list. His rights can be traded. If Anaheim thinks playing in the Q is best for his development, they will send him back to juniors. I think for most guys like Groulx Fortier and co who are good but not great prospects, part of the equation will be how NHL rosters shake out and if those teams have ECHL affiliates. I wonder if some players ask to stay an extra year junior because playing AHL in the US with a pandemic only getting worse(in the short term) might happen. There are hotspots in Canada, but right now the whole country is a hotspot in the US and the Christmas/New Years holidays will just make things worse. Agreed - plus if an NHL team has more players under contract than spots to play them (with no ECHL affiliate playing) sending those with junior eligibility back might be a way to create a few extra spots in the system. |
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 15, 2020 15:34:58 GMT -4
Something to think about. Each team is a business, and the decisions they make should be made with the business in mind. Going on a long playoff run is normally great for business and so spending assets to get better is good when you are a contender or close to contending. Its all about making those big playoff gates, and having big crowds down the stretch because everybody likes to watch their team win.
But this year is different ... we have no crowds ... so very little money to be made by anyone. We don't even know if we have a playoff yet.
I know some teams are already positioned to contend this year, and will have a big roster turnover next season no matter what they do. Happens every year ... and so you strike while the iron is hot. But if there are no crowds for the foreseeable future, or only 25% capacity crowds, why would you spend assets to try to win this year. There is no financial benefit to do it, in fact the longer you play into the spring the more money you lose. The smartest move is to try to prepare for next year when you could hope to have things back to some sort of normal. I don't think there is any glory to winning a championship this year.
Is it a smart business move to try to win this year when no money can be made, And then slide to the bottom next year when hopefully money can be made again.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Dec 26, 2020 9:08:50 GMT -4
As I posted on the Islanders board, Sean Stewart will be traded to Charlottetown.
I’m hearing the return will be more than most fans expect.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Dec 26, 2020 11:48:06 GMT -4
As I posted on the Islanders board, Sean Stewart will be traded to Charlottetown. I’m hearing the return will be more than most fans expect. |
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Post by switchback on Dec 26, 2020 11:53:18 GMT -4
Hamel for Stewart would’ve been enough but plus 2 other assets wow. This isn’t like Hulton
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Dec 26, 2020 15:40:36 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 27, 2020 12:11:46 GMT -4
Hamel for Stewart would’ve been enough but plus 2 other assets wow. This isn’t like Hulton Stewart is a guy that will grow on you. I was impressed with his growth from 17 to 18. His +25 last year was legit, he plays a strong shutdown game, a guy you don't notice because he is fundamentally sound in his end and doesn't make the big mistake trying to create something that isn't there. I was thinking they could get a pretty good return for him, was aiming for a 2nd round pick plus maybe a later pick(7th to 9th)as the Cats need picks. This sounds about right. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Dec 28, 2020 12:34:13 GMT -4
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Post by bois on Dec 28, 2020 12:53:28 GMT -4
Won't be fun facing the Hammer the next couple of years.... kid loves to hit..... real throwback dman
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