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Post by statsman18 on Jun 22, 2021 8:44:18 GMT -4
Wonder if he’s hinting at another veteran forward or if he’s talking about Simoneau? That I wouldn’t bet on. He’s not really allowed to talk about the trade because it’s not official. The part that should intrigue you is the Euro draft talk. He says they talked to both guys and they are determined to come but then the next sentence he says we will make a decision on the euro situation next week. That seem like a contradicting statement to me. |
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Post by canbeer on Jun 22, 2021 9:49:17 GMT -4
Wonder if he’s hinting at another veteran forward or if he’s talking about Simoneau? That I wouldn’t bet on. He’s not really allowed to talk about the trade because it’s not official. The pet that should intrigue you is the Euro draft talk. He says they talked to both guys and they are determined to come but then the next sentence he says we will make a decision on the euro situation next week. That seem like a contradicting statement to me. That was the interesting part for sure, suggests possible clarification during the midget draft weekend meaning possible trade for a Euro. |
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Post by catnut on Jun 22, 2021 11:21:19 GMT -4
Wonder if he’s hinting at another veteran forward or if he’s talking about Simoneau? That I wouldn’t bet on. He’s not really allowed to talk about the trade because it’s not official. The part that should intrigue you is the Euro draft talk. He says they talked to both guys and they are determined to come but then the next sentence he says we will make a decision on the euro situation next week. That seem like a contradicting statement to me. With the fact that teams are allowed to draft a 3rd Euro this year, he might be pondering using his pick in case one does not cross the Atlantic. |
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Post by statsman18 on Jun 22, 2021 12:28:30 GMT -4
That I wouldn’t bet on. He’s not really allowed to talk about the trade because it’s not official. The part that should intrigue you is the Euro draft talk. He says they talked to both guys and they are determined to come but then the next sentence he says we will make a decision on the euro situation next week. That seem like a contradicting statement to me. With the fact that teams are allowed to draft a 3rd Euro this year, he might be pondering using his pick in case one does not cross the Atlantic. I’m not arguing if this is the case but I haven’t seen anywhere other than heat say if this is fact. I even posted on the Mooseheads board the official Draft order and a write up about the euro draft. Nothing was mentioned about this 3rd guy rule that once again seems to be hear say. Here’s the post on the CHL website once again. chl.ca/article/canadian-hockey-league-announces-order-of-selections-for-2021-chl-import-draftAnd by all means if someone has something saying that this is an rule change for this year by all mean please post it. It not that I don’t believe it, it’s just if it’s really true then it would be in writing and I can’t find it in French or English. |
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Post by bois on Jun 22, 2021 13:08:07 GMT -4
Wonder if he’s hinting at another veteran forward or if he’s talking about Simoneau? i'm 100% sure that refers to Simoneau |
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Post by bois on Jun 22, 2021 13:12:37 GMT -4
it's nice to get some info.... but with the dumb rules in this league it's almost pointless to bother taking much of anything said in those 5 questions too seriously
its all but confirmed the Isles have added Simoneau but you cant say so until the official trade period opens up so Hulton says they expect to be active adding a proven vet scorer.... it's done but he cant say so
they drafted the euros last year with the thought they'd be able to get them over at some point..... both were signed and posted at the time they signed.... so it's certainly not at all strange to hear that they have remained in contact and that both want to be here this year..... it's also not unexpected to say they haven't fully decided what they plan to do in terms of the Euro draft this year..... again nothing much in there
the only comment i am a bit intrigued by is the expectation that Goobie is ready to assume the net..... i still fully expect a vet goalie is on the shopping list..... but this one was interesting anyhow
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 22, 2021 13:17:39 GMT -4
With the fact that teams are allowed to draft a 3rd Euro this year, he might be pondering using his pick in case one does not cross the Atlantic. I’m not arguing if this is the case but I haven’t seen anywhere other than heat say if this is fact. I even posted on the Mooseheads board the official Draft order and a write up about the euro draft. Nothing was mentioned about this 3rd guy rule that once again seems to be hear say. Here’s the post on the CHL website once again. chl.ca/article/canadian-hockey-league-announces-order-of-selections-for-2021-chl-import-draftAnd by all means if someone has something saying that this is an rule change for this year by all mean please post it. It not that I don’t believe it, it’s just if it’s really true then it would be in writing and I can’t find it in French or English. It has always been the case that any Import that did not show up to camp, would then go on a special list and be protected. If Charlottetown had two guys that did not show up to play then they are protected, and Charlottetown would then be able to draft two more import players. Maybe only one can be protected ... not sure ... can't recall it happening in the past where two imports didn't show up to one team. This last season blazed new ground that we have not seen before, so I expect some rule changes to come up from it. Teams can still only have two imports signed to cards though, so having three or four in camp might just complicate things. |
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Post by statsman18 on Jun 22, 2021 17:26:53 GMT -4
I’m not arguing if this is the case but I haven’t seen anywhere other than heat say if this is fact. I even posted on the Mooseheads board the official Draft order and a write up about the euro draft. Nothing was mentioned about this 3rd guy rule that once again seems to be hear say. Here’s the post on the CHL website once again. chl.ca/article/canadian-hockey-league-announces-order-of-selections-for-2021-chl-import-draftAnd by all means if someone has something saying that this is an rule change for this year by all mean please post it. It not that I don’t believe it, it’s just if it’s really true then it would be in writing and I can’t find it in French or English. It has always been the case that any Import that did not show up to camp, would then go on a special list and be protected. If Charlottetown had two guys that did not show up to play then they are protected, and Charlottetown would then be able to draft two more import players. Maybe only one can be protected ... not sure ... can't recall it happening in the past where two imports didn't show up to one team. This last season blazed new ground that we have not seen before, so I expect some rule changes to come up from it. Teams can still only have two imports signed to cards though, so having three or four in camp might just complicate things. How sure are you about this? I know there something about NHL drafted players and 20yo going a special list to draft a new player a an insurance type thing. But what your saying I’m pretty sure is not the case. Also you are definitely and admittedly speculating by saying you expect a rule change. That’s proving my point. It’s not actually a rule here and people are IMO miss construing the rule. |
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Post by catnut on Jun 22, 2021 19:36:08 GMT -4
It has always been the case that any Import that did not show up to camp, would then go on a special list and be protected. If Charlottetown had two guys that did not show up to play then they are protected, and Charlottetown would then be able to draft two more import players. Maybe only one can be protected ... not sure ... can't recall it happening in the past where two imports didn't show up to one team. This last season blazed new ground that we have not seen before, so I expect some rule changes to come up from it. Teams can still only have two imports signed to cards though, so having three or four in camp might just complicate things. How sure are you about this? I know there something about NHL drafted players and 20yo going a special list to draft a new player a an insurance type thing. But what your saying I’m pretty sure is not the case. Also you are definitely and admittedly speculating by saying you expect a rule change. That’s proving my point. It’s not actually a rule here and people are IMO miss construing the rule. What Steve posted is the actual rule from at least the last 15 years. We saw examples of this rule being applied in Moncton. What I posted earlier comes from a reliable poster from Gatineau who is someone connected with the teams. Of course, since it does not come from you, you will never believe what I say. |
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Post by statsman18 on Jun 22, 2021 20:44:33 GMT -4
How sure are you about this? I know there something about NHL drafted players and 20yo going a special list to draft a new player a an insurance type thing. But what your saying I’m pretty sure is not the case. Also you are definitely and admittedly speculating by saying you expect a rule change. That’s proving my point. It’s not actually a rule here and people are IMO miss construing the rule. What Steve posted is the actual rule from at least the last 15 years. We saw examples of this rule being applied in Moncton. What I posted earlier comes from a reliable poster from Gatineau who is someone connected with the teams. Of course, since it does not come from you, you will never believe what I say. Not the case at all. I saying I haven’t seen anything official from league rules wise. I seen one reporter from the Gatineau area reference something about it but that was it. All I’m asking is something that is legit in writing and no one can come up with that. So instead of shitting on me come up with the Proof. |
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Post by catnut on Jun 23, 2021 8:07:16 GMT -4
What Steve posted is the actual rule from at least the last 15 years. We saw examples of this rule being applied in Moncton. What I posted earlier comes from a reliable poster from Gatineau who is someone connected with the teams. Of course, since it does not come from you, you will never believe what I say. Not the case at all. I saying I haven’t seen anything official from league rules wise. I seen one reporter from the Gatineau area reference something about it but that was it. All I’m asking is something that is legit in writing and no one can come up with that. So instead of shitting on me come up with the Proof. When was the last time the league put out anything about a slight change of rules, especially regarding Euros? They never do. You will never find anything in writing. |
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 23, 2021 8:16:30 GMT -4
It has always been the case that any Import that did not show up to camp, would then go on a special list and be protected. If Charlottetown had two guys that did not show up to play then they are protected, and Charlottetown would then be able to draft two more import players. Maybe only one can be protected ... not sure ... can't recall it happening in the past where two imports didn't show up to one team. This last season blazed new ground that we have not seen before, so I expect some rule changes to come up from it. Teams can still only have two imports signed to cards though, so having three or four in camp might just complicate things. How sure are you about this? I know there something about NHL drafted players and 20yo going a special list to draft a new player a an insurance type thing. But what your saying I’m pretty sure is not the case. Also you are definitely and admittedly speculating by saying you expect a rule change. That’s proving my point. It’s not actually a rule here and people are IMO miss construing the rule. How sure ? Well I don't know what rules they may add or change due to the odd season last year. But I am certain that any import player that does not show up to play at any point in the season goes on a special protected list, and the team can then draft another import without having to cut the no-show guy loose, and they can keep him on that list even if they have two import guys signed to roster spots. This has always been the rule. However, I am not certain how many players you can have on the no-show protected list as that has never been an issue that I am aware of. I'm not expecting any rule changes at all ... don't put words in my mouth ... all I am saying is that we had an odd-ball season last year and so they might make some rule changes if some teams were disadvantaged by it. I have no expectation of any rule changes. If you are "pretty sure its not the case" ... then "instead of shitting on me, come up with the proof". None of your points have been proven at all. Your logic is that if it didn't happen in Halifax then it isn't true. |
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Post by countryboy on Jun 23, 2021 10:24:32 GMT -4
Simonneau deal done....
We send D'ville their 2021 1st (11th overall) plus our 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks in 2023.
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Post by switchback on Jun 23, 2021 10:28:43 GMT -4
Still some assets to sell for immediate help.. this deal definitely has futures involved so it’s not a bad deal at all price wise.
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Post by countryboy on Jun 23, 2021 10:34:24 GMT -4
For sure.... talk was two 1st.... but we're doing better if we get it done for the 1st, plus the 3/4/5.
As of now, we are very think in the 2023 draft. Our first pick isn't until the 6th round! But we're all in for the 2021-22 season and a rebuild will folloow.
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