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Post by j3e4 on Oct 21, 2021 11:25:36 GMT -4
What exactly does it say? We've already undergone a coaching change since Roy left so what else is it that you are suggesting needs to change? |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Oct 21, 2021 11:47:53 GMT -4
I'm not pointing fingers at the new coach for Roys's complaints. I just finished reading the interview and thought I would share it.
I am sure there might be some truth to what Roy is saying but alot of it is probably on him as well. He probably wanted to get back close to his family. everyone knows if you want to be a pro you need to eat right and work out alot.
Things that I see that need to get answered and hopefully they will be soon.
Why are we taking way to many penalties? Why are other teams not taking as many penalties against the Dogs?
The Team is easy to play against. If they fixed that they would probably fix the penalty issues as well.
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Post by j3e4 on Oct 21, 2021 12:28:36 GMT -4
I'm not pointing fingers at the new coach for Roys's complaints. I just finished reading the interview and thought I would share it. I am sure there might be some truth to what Roy is saying but alot of it is probably on him as well. He probably wanted to get back close to his family. everyone knows if you want to be a pro you need to eat right and work out alot. Things that I see that need to get answered and hopefully they will be soon. Why are we taking way to many penalties? Why are other teams not taking as many penalties against the Dogs? The Team is easy to play against. If they fixed that they would probably fix the penalty issues as well. I wasn't suggesting you were pointing fingers at anyone. Not being fluent in French I'm just trying to understand what is going on here. What else is it that you are suggesting needs to change as it relates to the Roy article? Not saying you're right or wrong because I don't understand the article and your commentary of it was somewhat vague, at least to those of us who don't understand the article. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Oct 21, 2021 12:55:45 GMT -4
Oh sorry, I don't read or speak French either. I used google to translate it.
After seven games, Joshua Roy sits at the top of the QMJHL scorers with six goals and nine assists already. A scenario that he would not even have dared to predict before the start of the season. He didn't believe it himself. It wasn't that long ago that finishing an appearance was a challenge for him.
"I'm really surprised," confides the hopeful Montreal Canadiens in a generous interview with TVASports.ca. I did not expect to produce so much ... "
It should be understood that Roy's rating had dropped drastically in the past two years. Selected first in the QMJHL draft in 2019, the native of Saint-Georges, in Beauce, was seen as one of the best prospects in Canadian junior hockey. A prodigy who was the leader of the best team in midget AAA history, the 2018-2019 Chevaliers de Lévis.
But said prodigy had to wait until the fifth round to be claimed by the CH at the last NHL amateur auction. The truth is, Joshua Roy was an overweight young man last season who finished every time on the ice with pain and misery.
Roy was pumping oil on the bench when he was playing with the Saint-Jean Sea Dogs.
“I arrived at the bench and I was burnt,” admits the attacker with the greatest candor.
Then the click. Roy was traded to the Sherbrooke Phoenix. The Phoenix wanted him so badly that he sacrificed three first-round picks.
Roy, who weighed 207 pounds when he landed in Sherbrooke at Christmas, had a sudden realization. As if someone had just lit a huge lantern above his head.
“I got here and all the guys were in shape ,” he says. I kind of realized I was late. It rang a bell. "
Transformation
It was the culture of the Phoenix that confronted him with his greatest flaw: he was not in a form worthy of an elite hockey player.
“In Sherbrooke, they really have a good organization. The training sessions are really intense with our coach Stéphane Julien. You don't have a pass, you have to work all the time. Sessions in the gym are extremely hard.
“For the development of a player, this is the perfect place. I don't know what the other places in the League are like, but here it's really amazing. We train every day. ”
It is very difficult to shed a reputation. Since he lacked energy on the ice, Roy is now recognized by some observers as a player who is "cow", in good Quebec. A nonchalant player who relies exclusively on his natural skills.
This perception does not leave Roy indifferent. He makes a point of changing it.
He is on the right track. The Beauceron has lost 25 pounds since last year. A radical change.
Roy did everything he could to lose weight over the summer. No more restaurants. Starches like rice, potatoes and pasta have been put aside. And instead of stuffing himself, Roy began to carefully measure his portions.
The contrast with the 2020-2021 season is staggering. Since the start of training camp in Montreal, Roy feels he has wings.
It doesn't seem like how I see the difference," exclaims the young man. Last year I came back to the bench and I was burnt. But there, it is made correct. I work hard and burn a bit, but I'm not as burnt after a little effort like last year.
“Just in my skate, I find that I am really faster on the ice. After a long shift , I am able to stay in the game and not get burnt dead afterwards. ”
It's the Montreal Canadiens who are rubbing their hands. This new version of Roy would undoubtedly have been drafted much earlier, so that the organization could have achieved a stroke of genius by claiming him in 150th place. Like what the value of a player is constantly evolving; the development of a hope does not follow a perfectly linear curve.
In his quest to change his image, Roy has also found the best ally during the Habs training camp in September.
“Rafaël Harvey-Pinard surprised me,” he says. He's a really good guy. I didn't know him much, but he really took me under his wing, especially during the real camp. He's one of the few I knew. If I had any questions, I could go talk to him. ”
Pathway
The day of his selection by the CH, the team of his childhood, Joshua Roy had made remarks that had startled more than one.
Roy hadn't been kind to the Sea Dogs.
“I asked for a trade last season because I didn't believe the environment in Saint-Jean was the best,” he told the media. The workouts weren't good, they lasted 30 to 45 minutes and they were mostly skill based. The road trips, the nutrition ... it wasn't famous.
I didn't think it was a normal junior team. I went to Sherbrooke and saw what a real junior team looked like. ”
Ouch . The last two sentences are particularly murderous.
Now that he has had time to decant everything that happened in a bizarre year complicated by COVID-19, Roy seems to have toned down his point.
We feel a desire on his part to distance himself from the somewhat bitter speech he had made.
“It just didn't match there,” he sums up much more diplomatically. I do not know why. It's from the past. I focus on my time with the Phoenix. I couldn't ask for better than to be here. ”
What occupies Roy's thoughts is no longer this saga with the Sea Dogs, but the work that awaits him before becoming a major forward with the Canadiens.
On the one hand, he is very confident when asked to discuss his skills. His hands and shot are of great quality, and he doesn't mind pointing it out loud and clear.
On the other hand, he recognizes his limitations and weaknesses in a very lucid way. He knows he won't be a rocket in the NHL. Her speed shouldn't hurt her, but she isn't likely to be a weapon either.
"I still look like John Tavares," said Roy, who emphasizes the style of the player more than the type of career he could have. He's not the greatest skater, but not a bad skater either. He will make big offensive plays with his hockey sense. I think that still describes me well. ”
Think of him as the kind of gamer who would rather slow down the game and do justice with his head rather than his feet. And if you find the comparison to Tavares too ambitious, consider Dylan Strome instead.
Even though he describes himself today as a scorer, a decidedly offensive player, Roy was not recognized as a great maverick at a younger age.
“At the bantam level, I really didn't have a good shot,” he reveals. It was one of my weaknesses. I really worked hard with my former coach Simon Larouche on this. I would stay after practice and pull the tape. The more it went, the better. At first it was really just to build power. ”
It was at the time when, like many Quebecers, Roy was a big supporter of Sainte-Flanelle who particularly liked the game of Brendan Gallagher.
Harvey-Pinard, Gallagher ... For a young man supposedly "cow", let's say that Roy draws his inspiration from quite fiery players. Ah, those famous perceptions!
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Post by Slap Shooter on Oct 21, 2021 13:26:38 GMT -4
Here are some of the points that I took from the article. I'm not saying that it is the same this year under Dwyer or not. But if they are they need to change. I don't think I ever heard this kind of talk about the Sea Dogs in previous years. I'm not saying it never happened, I just never heard anyone saying these types of things about the team.
“I got here and all the guys were in shape ,” he says. I kind of realized I was late. It rang a bell. "
It was the culture of the Phoenix that confronted him with his greatest flaw: he was not in a form worthy of an elite hockey player.
“In Sherbrooke, they really have a good organization. The training sessions are really intense with our coach Stéphane Julien. You don't have a pass, you have to work all the time. Sessions in the gym are extremely hard.
“I asked for a trade last season because I didn't believe the environment in Saint-Jean was the best,” he told the media. The workouts weren't good, they lasted 30 to 45 minutes and they were mostly skill based. The road trips, the nutrition ... it wasn't famous.
I didn't think it was a normal junior team. I went to Sherbrooke and saw what a real junior team looked like. ”
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Post by j3e4 on Oct 21, 2021 16:40:02 GMT -4
Here are some of the points that I took from the article. I'm not saying that it is the same this year under Dwyer or not. But if they are they need to change. I don't think I ever heard this kind of talk about the Sea Dogs in previous years. I'm not saying it never happened, I just never heard anyone saying these types of things about the team. “I got here and all the guys were in shape ,” he says. I kind of realized I was late. It rang a bell. " It was the culture of the Phoenix that confronted him with his greatest flaw: he was not in a form worthy of an elite hockey player. “In Sherbrooke, they really have a good organization. The training sessions are really intense with our coach Stéphane Julien. You don't have a pass, you have to work all the time. Sessions in the gym are extremely hard. “I asked for a trade last season because I didn't believe the environment in Saint-Jean was the best,” he told the media. The workouts weren't good, they lasted 30 to 45 minutes and they were mostly skill based. The road trips, the nutrition ... it wasn't famous. I didn't think it was a normal junior team. I went to Sherbrooke and saw what a real junior team looked like. ” To me, most signs point towards him not liking Gilbert's coaching style. As far as I know he had no hesitations about reporting here when he was first drafted. What is fact is that he reported. He and his family could have asked all the important questions in the interviews prior to the draft as well as during the off-season. Sometimes you don't think of everything until you experience it though. But he came here during his rookie season and the head coaching job was split between Dixon and Cowan before Xmas. He didn't ask for a trade half way through his rookie season. Cowan was head coach during the 2nd half. He did not ask for a trade during the off-season during his 1st and 2nd season. Not only did he report to camp for season 2 but he was willing to do 2 weeks of isolation in order to do so. One would think if he was considering requesting a trade at all at this point that the off-season would have been the time for it with an obvious preference towards a Quebec based team. It was only after half a year under Gilbert that he suddenly wanted out. He talks about not liking the practices and the difference when he went from SJ to Sherbrooke. If he's going to compare the 2, he's going to talk about how things were in SJ immediately prior to the trade, and those practices would have been run by Gilbert. Whether or not the coach picks the meals on the road I have no idea. I wouldn't have guessed so but not sure. Maybe he ate the same during his rookie season and it wasn't his favorite but not really a dealbresker either. Either way it seems to me that it was only after Gilbert's arrival that he wanted out. Which could be part of the reason that Gilbert only lasted one season despite being brought in with high expectations. |
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Post by j3e4 on Oct 23, 2021 22:52:43 GMT -4
Francis can't get back here soon enough. We desperately need some secondary scoring. The 3rd and 4th lines seem to combine for a goal a game lately which is nice, but the 2nd line needs to start doing something. Reynolds was nearly a point a game player at 17 but so far this season has 3 points in 9 games.
That being said, the top line has been great but they can't do it all. They must have been exhausted by the end of the game. No disrespect intended but guys like Bezeau and Savoie do not belong on the 2nd unit PP when everyone is healthy on a supposed contender. Maybe fill in now and then when other guys aren't available like Dove-McFalls and Macauley did during other championship seasons, but they should not be regular goto guys on the PP.
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Post by j3e4 on Oct 24, 2021 16:50:05 GMT -4
Nice to finally get some 2nd line production. Sounds like Reynolds had his best game of the season with a goal, assist and a shootout goal. Probably should have been 1st star but whatever.
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Post by radarc on Oct 25, 2021 9:19:00 GMT -4
4 out of 6 points - hindsite says it should have been all 6. Moncton Goalie made some great saves in the first that if they went in…….
2 games this weekend before a road trip to Quebec and a game on CBC.
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