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Post by jimmy on Jan 20, 2022 11:45:29 GMT -4
The more sensible plan would be for NB Public Health to make an exception for teams of a certain level allowing them to practice based on certain criteria. I have kids who play minor hockey, and I would have no problem accepting that the rules are different for major junior teams than they are for minor hockey.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 20, 2022 11:47:18 GMT -4
I think the bigger issue is its winter and sending players unnecessarily to QC in bad roads or weather when their rinks are empty and they all have very good covid protocols in place. I know Bathurst had to skate in shifts on a pond to get any ice, without fear of arrest. Heaven forbid kids are active. Government seems to want fat basement dwellers stuck on video games continuing the poor health cycle which makes this virus an issue to begin with. Government is incompetent. Not 1 has done anything to indicate health care is a priority in terms of spending and turning policy and political talk into anything people see on the front lines. Their system is so poorly built that they would rather the heart issues in 20 years as thats on another government to worry about. This whole pandemic and lockdowns is about passing the buck to someone else to worry about. Even as so many of us change provincial politicians like our underwear we've seen absolutely no change in our health systems. According to the premier of NB people need to demand that health care be a priority. He said this during a pandemic wave in 2022. And not 1 media type ran with the outlandishness of it because they accept the rhetoric as part of the political pandering they do to secure the interview in the first place. Its disgusting whats being allowed to happen right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 12:23:17 GMT -4
I think the bigger issue is its winter and sending players unnecessarily to QC in bad roads or weather when their rinks are empty and they all have very good covid protocols in place. I know Bathurst had to skate in shifts on a pond to get any ice, without fear of arrest. Heaven forbid kids are active. Government seems to want fat basement dwellers stuck on video games continuing the poor health cycle which makes this virus an issue to begin with. Government is incompetent. Not 1 has done anything to indicate health care is a priority in terms of spending and turning policy and political talk into anything people see on the front lines. Their system is so poorly built that they would rather the heart issues in 20 years as thats on another government to worry about. This whole pandemic and lockdowns is about passing the buck to someone else to worry about. Even as so many of us change provincial politicians like our underwear we've seen absolutely no change in our health systems. According to the premier of NB people need to demand that health care be a priority. He said this during a pandemic wave in 2022. And not 1 media type ran with the outlandishness of it because they accept the rhetoric as part of the political pandering they do to secure the interview in the first place. Its disgusting whats being allowed to happen right now. Yupp - Higgs is slippery. He's the first to open everything up - and then the first to go into a lockdown. It's like he thinks it'll make him look smarter than everybody else - and he might be. . . I like Dr. Heather over on PEI - but she's flighty. Everything will be going along just swimmingly - and then it's like she wakes up one morning - crosses her legs - and "sorry boys - no hockey for two weeks". . . When Strang talks - I just shut him out - way too busy laughing at the faces the deaf interpreter makes - LOL. . . Everybody's winging it - and it's really all they can do I guess. Just a question without starting a new thread if that's OK - but does anybody think Brad Marchand is doing enough to make it to the Hockey Hall of Fame some day? Havvin' a wicked argument with a buddy about it and I'm just about ready to put the kung fu to him! |
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 20, 2022 12:53:58 GMT -4
I guess you could say the difference is the teams asked NB Pubic Health for their approval before moving forward with this plan rather than just going ahead and doing it. NB public health is in charge of Quebec's health care system? Shouldn't Quebec be making that decision? How can NB be shut down, Quebec have off the charts hospitalizations, yet NB decide to sent 3 hockey teams into Quebec to train if they wont allow it in NB? The logic is baffling here. NB has nothing to do with it. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jan 20, 2022 12:55:48 GMT -4
Government is incompetent. Not 1 has done anything to indicate health care is a priority in terms of spending and turning policy and political talk into anything people see on the front lines. Their system is so poorly built that they would rather the heart issues in 20 years as thats on another government to worry about. This whole pandemic and lockdowns is about passing the buck to someone else to worry about. Even as so many of us change provincial politicians like our underwear we've seen absolutely no change in our health systems. According to the premier of NB people need to demand that health care be a priority. He said this during a pandemic wave in 2022. And not 1 media type ran with the outlandishness of it because they accept the rhetoric as part of the political pandering they do to secure the interview in the first place. Its disgusting whats being allowed to happen right now. Yupp - Higgs is slippery. He's the first to open everything up - and then the first to go into a lockdown. It's like he thinks it'll make him look smarter than everybody else - and he might be. . . I like Dr. Heather over on PEI - but she's flighty. Everything will be going along just swimmingly - and then it's like she wakes up one morning - crosses her legs - and "sorry boys - no hockey for two weeks". . . Everybody's winging it - and it's really all they can do I guess. Just a question without starting a new thread if that's OK - but does anybody think Brad Marchand is doing enough to make it to the Hockey Hall of Fame some day? Havvin' a wicked argument with a buddy about it and I'm just about ready to put the kung fu to him! IMO he’s not a HOFer and probably won’t ever get to that point in my eyes. Is he an elite player? Absolutely but not every elite player is or should be considered a HOFer. Now by the standards, I’d say he has a chance to get in but he wouldn’t get my vote. Not at the moment anyways. |
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Post by jimmy on Jan 20, 2022 14:46:41 GMT -4
Yupp - Higgs is slippery. He's the first to open everything up - and then the first to go into a lockdown. It's like he thinks it'll make him look smarter than everybody else - and he might be. . . I like Dr. Heather over on PEI - but she's flighty. Everything will be going along just swimmingly - and then it's like she wakes up one morning - crosses her legs - and "sorry boys - no hockey for two weeks". . . Everybody's winging it - and it's really all they can do I guess. Just a question without starting a new thread if that's OK - but does anybody think Brad Marchand is doing enough to make it to the Hockey Hall of Fame some day? Havvin' a wicked argument with a buddy about it and I'm just about ready to put the kung fu to him! IMO he’s not a HOFer and probably won’t ever get to that point in my eyes. Is he an elite player? Absolutely but not every elite player is or should be considered a HOFer. Now by the standards, I’d say he has a chance to get in but he wouldn’t get my vote. Not at the moment anyways. I think if he was struck by lightning this moment, he is not quite there ... but if he keeps producing at this level for another 2 or 3 years, and especially if he manages to accomplish another significant personal or team accomplishment or two, then I think he would have a very good case. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 20, 2022 14:55:54 GMT -4
IMO he’s not a HOFer and probably won’t ever get to that point in my eyes. Is he an elite player? Absolutely but not every elite player is or should be considered a HOFer. Now by the standards, I’d say he has a chance to get in but he wouldn’t get my vote. Not at the moment anyways. I think if he was struck by lightning this moment, he is not quite there ... but if he keeps producing at this level for another 2 or 3 years, and especially if he manages to accomplish another significant personal or team accomplishment or two, then I think he would have a very good case. Yeah you add another Cup or 2 at the end of that career and it would change the discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2022 15:01:59 GMT -4
I think if he was struck by lightning this moment, he is not quite there ... but if he keeps producing at this level for another 2 or 3 years, and especially if he manages to accomplish another significant personal or team accomplishment or two, then I think he would have a very good case. Yeah you add another Cup or 2 at the end of that career and it would change the discussion. Ya - but he's lucky nobody got a contract out on him by now. . . |
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Post by bois on Jan 20, 2022 16:25:02 GMT -4
I think he is absolutely a hall of famer if he continues producing at or near his current production for a few more seasons and i see no reason why he won't do that
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Post by yoyomamajoe on Jan 20, 2022 22:22:02 GMT -4
I think he is absolutely a hall of famer if he continues producing at or near his current production for a few more seasons and i see no reason why he won't do that As long as he doesn't wear the C I still see him behind Bergeron. So unless Bergeron makes it in the HOF before Marchant I don't see it happening for Brad. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jan 20, 2022 23:20:33 GMT -4
I think he is absolutely a hall of famer if he continues producing at or near his current production for a few more seasons and i see no reason why he won't do that As long as he doesn't wear the C I still see him behind Bergeron. So unless Bergeron makes it in the HOF before Marchant I don't see it happening for Brad. I think Bergeron is a quite a bit ahead of Marchand, they each have a cup, Brad has 2 WJC vs Patrice’s 1, they both have a World Championship Gold and a World Cup of Hockey gold but Bergeron has the 2 Olympic gold medals and has won 4 Selke’s (tied for most all-time) and was nominated 10 straight times. He’s probably a lock right now with his Olympic medals, counting stats and the Hard Trophy’s he’s won. It’s hard to fault Marchand though for not having Olympic golds when in all likelihood, he’d have 1 and being looking for a 2nd if the NHL went. Bergeron is probably getting in on the first ballot with a resume like that. At their peaks, maybe you can make a case Marchand’s was at a higher level then Bergeron’s but it’s so hard to compare a high scoring winger to a dominant two-way C. I think the longevity of what Bergeron is doing gives him a leg up on Marchand. |
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Post by bois on Jan 21, 2022 12:19:53 GMT -4
I agree Bergeron is in too IMO
those two have literally carried the Bruins for a decade... the team is really not that good behind them but every year they are a top 4 seed and a contender for a cup run.... and it's because of Bergeron and Marchand and up til recently Rask and Chara...
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Post by statsman18 on Jan 22, 2022 9:48:02 GMT -4
I want to add a little context to this HOF talk. Now I know this is Moncton’s board but Bobby Smith the owner of the Mooseheads is not in the Hall and here’s his numbers www.eliteprospects.com/player/32713/bobby-smithAnd here Marchand’s www.eliteprospects.com/player/10439/brad-marchand. IMO I think Bobby should be in but he’s not. He won Rookie of the year and a Cup, plus he has over 1000 career points. Brad looks to be on pace to easily pass the 1000 pts total and break 400 goals which will be more then Bobby but overall they have very similar numbers. All I’m saying is if Bobby isn’t in I don’t think Brad will get in. Just My opinion. |
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Post by jimmy on Jan 22, 2022 10:19:51 GMT -4
I want to add a little context to this HOF talk. Now I know this is Moncton’s board but Bobby Smith the owner of the Mooseheads is not in the Hall and here’s his numbers www.eliteprospects.com/player/32713/bobby-smithAnd here Marchand’s www.eliteprospects.com/player/10439/brad-marchand. IMO I think Bobby should be in but he’s not. He won Rookie of the year and a Cup, plus he has over 1000 career points. Brad looks to be on pace to easily pass the 1000 pts total and break 400 goals which will be more then Bobby but overall they have very similar numbers. All I’m saying is if Bobby isn’t in I don’t think Brad will get in. Just My opinion. Bobby played in a higher scoring era though, so need to give that some weight when comparing raw numbers. That said, I would be inclined to say Smith would be a borderline guy (there are worse players in the HoF IMO) … much like Marchand. Difference being Marchand is still active, producing at a high level, and has the opportunity to bolster his credentials over the next few seasons and possibly get over the hump. |
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Post by bois on Jan 22, 2022 10:52:47 GMT -4
Smith was never the best at his position...... never even really in the discussion
Marchand is quite arguably the top winger in the game and most certainly at least in any discussion of top wingers and has been for many years now
not really a fair point even if you didn't consider the adjustment of the eras they played in in terms of scoring
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