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Post by iraca on Feb 16, 2022 11:53:04 GMT -4
Dates are officially moved to June 20th through June 29th. They do not expect to have any single game tickets available so will have to pick up in the after market if the package sale projections hold true.
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Post by Slap Shooter on Feb 25, 2022 8:51:02 GMT -4
Of all the Sea Dogs Teams to get awarded the Memorial cup it had to be this group. It doesn't matter what changes they make the same BS continues.
Hope they can get it together over the next few months and make some noise but I won't count on it.
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Post by Score on Feb 25, 2022 9:19:14 GMT -4
Who's the team Captain again.....I have no idea.
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Post by Slap Shooter on Feb 25, 2022 9:59:45 GMT -4
They haven't named one.
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Post by elementz on Feb 25, 2022 10:51:58 GMT -4
Who's the team Captain again.....I have no idea. Fleaburn |
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Post by Score on Feb 25, 2022 11:01:10 GMT -4
Oh...I didn't know. Isn't that odd that a Memorial Cup host team doesn't have a captain? Maybe I'm just reading too much a situation..... |
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Post by berner on Feb 25, 2022 11:04:05 GMT -4
Oh...I didn't know. Isn't that odd that a Memorial Cup host team doesn't have a captain? Maybe I'm just reading too much a situation..... Our last captain was Nicolas Guay (Patrick’s big brother), who was traded halfway through the 2019-20 season. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Feb 25, 2022 11:04:07 GMT -4
Oh...I didn't know. Isn't that odd that a Memorial Cup host team doesn't have a captain? Maybe I'm just reading too much a situation..... Very strange but at this rate they won't be hoisting any trophies anyway so they probably don't need a Captain. |
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Post by Reesor on Feb 25, 2022 11:44:20 GMT -4
You guys had Connor Trenholm as your 4th line center last night. That's a deep friggin forward group. Reminds me of Halifax having Brent Andrews as their 4th line center back in 2013.
In 2019 folks accused Halifax of not adding enough to a Memorial Cup team to win the Memorial Cup. Ultimately they were right even though the Moose had a great year. Saint John doesn't have that problem. They added high-quality players and very good depth. They have a championship team. I do see a few similarities to the 2008 Mooseheads, which isn't a good thing. That team had cliques in the dressing room and a divide that ultimately cost them a championship. I hope your group can realize that they have a golden opportunity to win two trophies, and come together as a group at the right time. Last year the best team beat the best group of players in the finals.
The last Memorial Cup host to win both their league and the Memorial Cup was the 2005 London Knights... arguably the best CHL team in the last 25 years. It's extremely tough on a Memorial Cup host to play throughout the year. They have pressure that other teams don't have.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2022 12:04:40 GMT -4
Oh...I didn't know. Isn't that odd that a Memorial Cup host team doesn't have a captain? Maybe I'm just reading too much a situation..... I don't want to be seen as the analytics guy again - but of all the Maritime teams - the Sea Dogs seem to have the most up and down game to game TOI swings. For instance - most teams have the clear go-to players like Furlong; Lukas Cormier and so on who always get the most ice time. There's a clear pecking order of who the coaches go to the well for the most often. With the Sea Dogs - it seems to be all over the map. Over their past few games - Charlie DesRoches led in ice time one game - Villeneuve another - and so on. Philippe Daoust seems to be their clear leader amongst forwards as far as ice time - but one game he gets 23 minutes - and 16 the next - but it's the D minutes that fluctuate the most. I don't follow them close enough to see if they keep mixing up the D pairings looking for the right fit - but the numbers do seem to suggest that. I'd guess that Daoust is the team leader - but they probably didn't want somebody to just waltz in mid-season and be handed the 'C' and possibly be seen as dissing those already there all season. Unlike many - I don't see a big problem with the Sea Dogs. They fell behind 3-0 to the Moose last night after 6 shots on goal - no weak goals - but just got behind the 8 ball and started to leave the zone early looking to get back in it and Rousseau came up big - everything stuck - no rebounds - and the Mooseheads capitalized coming back the other way. They got wings on their skates and the wind at their backs - it happens. I see the Sea Dogs in the MC final. They have more NHL draft picks on their roster (8) than any other team in the entire CHL. They're going to be sleeping in their own beds and rested up and healthy at the MC (guessing they don't win the President's Cup) - while nobody else is going to be sleeping at all and just running on fumes in the biggest games. I do think that they should name Daoust captain - but I'm a poster on a message board. The last thing that Gordie Dwyer or Trevor Georgie does is going to listen to some Canucklehead who goes by Bomber on a message board. . . They need to gear their entire season to peaking for the MC tournament. Everything else is secondary. JMO - and I like their potential. They could go undefeated at the MC if the planets line up. I'm talking too much today. I better S-T-F-U before I get myself in trouble. . . |
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Post by j3e4 on Feb 25, 2022 12:22:05 GMT -4
I honestly think we could trade our entire roster for the Islanders entire roster and the Islanders would still be the better team. Maybe not if we did it all at once but if we moved a few pieces at a time that is likely how it would play out.
The team looked really good the first few games back from the break with all the new guys. But it seems like with each game, the team has looked less impressive. Instead of the new guys bringing the rest of the team up to their level, the old guys seem to bring the new guys down, at least as far as defensive play goes. It's hard to keep blaming the parade of goalies.
I honestly don't know what the Sea Dogs or Maple Leafs see in Villeneuve as a defenceman. Poirier improved defensively but at this point Villeneuve seems to be a lost cause. He has skills, especially offensively. But doesn't seem to have the smarts to play good D. After 3 and a half years in the league, I don't imagine that will suddenly change any time soon. I can't see this team winning anything with him back there logging as many minutes as he has. The team would be much better if they moved him to the bottom D pairing but used him on the power play. Either that or move him to forward. Desroches is much better overall but has been underused.
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Post by j3e4 on Feb 25, 2022 12:49:41 GMT -4
The good news is that this team should be well-rested and healthy for the Memorial Cup. I'm not just saying that to be a smart ass but legitimately mean it. An early playoff exit seemed to work well for the host teams in our last 2 trips to the Memorial Cup. It's not ideal and there are disadvantages to a long layoff too, but at this point it seems like that would be the best chance to win anything.
It's not entirely out of the realm of possibility but right now I don't see us getting past the 2nd round. Even the first round likely won't be easy. We could see a first in franchise history this season. A 6th game in the first round of the playoffs (obviously not counting last year's weird format).
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Post by Score on Feb 25, 2022 13:24:02 GMT -4
I really question if Dwyer was the right hire to lead this team full of talent.
He's a players coach......which could hurt the team......or it may not.
Some teams on paper may look more skilled.....but if the coach gets out coached in a series.....the tables can easily turn.
In a 7 game series, I pick the Isles over SJ. Largely due to Hulton out coaching Dwyer.
That's just my opinion.
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Post by mikeb on Feb 25, 2022 15:16:00 GMT -4
You guys had Connor Trenholm as your 4th line center last night. That's a deep friggin forward group. Reminds me of Halifax having Brent Andrews as their 4th line center back in 2013. In 2019 folks accused Halifax of not adding enough to a Memorial Cup team to win the Memorial Cup. Ultimately they were right even though the Moose had a great year. Saint John doesn't have that problem. They added high-quality players and very good depth. They have a championship team. I do see a few similarities to the 2008 Mooseheads, which isn't a good thing. That team had cliques in the dressing room and a divide that ultimately cost them a championship. I hope your group can realize that they have a golden opportunity to win two trophies, and come together as a group at the right time. Last year the best team beat the best group of players in the finals. The last Memorial Cup host to win both their league and the Memorial Cup was the 2005 London Knights... arguably the best CHL team in the last 25 years. It's extremely tough on a Memorial Cup host to play throughout the year. They have pressure that other teams don't have. There have been a few host teams that bowed out early in the playoffs yet ended up winning in the Memorial Cup.Off the top of my head Ottawa in 99 and Windsor about 5 years ago. |
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Post by berner on Feb 25, 2022 16:23:03 GMT -4
You guys had Connor Trenholm as your 4th line center last night. That's a deep friggin forward group. Reminds me of Halifax having Brent Andrews as their 4th line center back in 2013. In 2019 folks accused Halifax of not adding enough to a Memorial Cup team to win the Memorial Cup. Ultimately they were right even though the Moose had a great year. Saint John doesn't have that problem. They added high-quality players and very good depth. They have a championship team. I do see a few similarities to the 2008 Mooseheads, which isn't a good thing. That team had cliques in the dressing room and a divide that ultimately cost them a championship. I hope your group can realize that they have a golden opportunity to win two trophies, and come together as a group at the right time. Last year the best team beat the best group of players in the finals. The last Memorial Cup host to win both their league and the Memorial Cup was the 2005 London Knights... arguably the best CHL team in the last 25 years. It's extremely tough on a Memorial Cup host to play throughout the year. They have pressure that other teams don't have. There have been a few host teams that bowed out early in the playoffs yet ended up winning in the Memorial Cup.Off the top of my head Ottawa in 99 and Windsor about 5 years ago. How about Shawinigan in 2012, the year the Seadogs built their team for for AND the year they hoped to host the Memorial Cup Tournament. |
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