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Post by classiccaper on Jul 2, 2022 12:59:23 GMT -4
Assuming nothing else trickles in this is the result of today's trades. Out: Forwards - (8) F - Josh Lawrence 20yo F - Thomas Belgarde 20yo F - Charles Savoie 19yo F - Jack Campbell 19yo F - Nicolas Hogue 18yo F - Lucas Canning 18yo F - Blake Pilgrim-Edwards 17yo F - Matis Ouellet 17yo Defencemen - (2) D - Jacob Squires 19yo D - Emile Perron 17yo Draft Picks - (9) 2022 2nd Round Pick (26th Overall) 2022 4th Round Pick (55th Overall) 2022 12th Round Pick (216th Overall) 2023 3rd Round Pick 2024 5th Round Pick 2024 6th Round Pick 2024 7th Round Pick 2024 7th Round Pick (Saint John) 2024 8th Round Pick (Saint John) In: Forwards - (6) Samuel Johnson 20yo Zachary Gravel 20yo Jordan Côté 19yo Charles Boutin 19yo Julien Hébert 19yo Jonah MacDonald 17yo Defencemen - (1) Ryan Hayes 17yo Draft Picks - (9) 2022 1st Round Pick (16th Overall) 2022 2nd Round Pick (34th Overall) 2022 3rd Round Pick (48th Overall) 2022 9th Round Pick (149th Overall) 2023 3rd Round Pick (Drummondville) 2023 4th Round Pick (Québec) 2024 1st Round Pick (Blainville-Boisbriand) 2024 5th Round Pick (Val-d'Or) 2024 6th Round Pick (Charlottetown) brought in a 2023 2nd via dru not a 3rd. But i like the breakdown. Very easy to see everything! |
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Post by JEagle on Jul 2, 2022 13:13:54 GMT -4
Just read an article from JF Plante about the Perron trade and Perron said he was surprised to be traded so if we can take that at face value he never asked for a trade out.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 2, 2022 13:21:12 GMT -4
Just read an article from JF Plante about the Perron trade and Perron said he was surprised to be traded so if we can take that at face value he never asked for a trade out. And if you're Cam Squires and your brother was just traded and 2 of the top players your age were moved...what are you thinking entering your 17yr old season? Especially if those returning 17's didn't ask to be moved...you can't win without a core of 19yr olds and there's nothing ahead of that age group to contend with so are we now hoping to win when the players we draft this year are 19? Chances are there will be so much movement that it won't matter anyway. But we had a clear core to come out of this draft with and we're essentially back to square 1 meaning our fans sat through 2020-2021 for absolutely no reason. |
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Post by gocapebreton on Jul 2, 2022 14:01:45 GMT -4
Just read an article from JF Plante about the Perron trade and Perron said he was surprised to be traded so if we can take that at face value he never asked for a trade out. And if you're Cam Squires and your brother was just traded and 2 of the top players your age were moved...what are you thinking entering your 17yr old season? Especially if those returning 17's didn't ask to be moved...you can't win without a core of 19yr olds and there's nothing ahead of that age group to contend with so are we now hoping to win when the players we draft this year are 19? Chances are there will be so much movement that it won't matter anyway. But we had a clear core to come out of this draft with and we're essentially back to square 1 meaning our fans sat through 2020-2021 for absolutely no reason. 100%. I really do not want to post negative, but it is hard to figure their game plan here. If they are targeting 24/25 and they trade their main component of last years draft for whatever reason, they should at least have brought in a high 05 player. They traded arguably a top 3 20y/o for this year. BB is clearly making a run this year. Wouldn't it have been better to try and bring back an 05 Bourque in the exchange with BB. When will this team wake up, and realize the best solution for a small to mid market franchise, in particular, is to build through the draft. They have basically one 04 and two 05's on course for a 24/25 run. These guys at 19 and 20 get very expensive. Finally, what is the real reason behind these kids wanting out? Is there more to why Culligan packed his bags? What is Cassidy like to play for? I would say the majority of fans are not real happy seeing these 05's leaving, with a bunch of 19's and '24 picks coming in. |
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Post by justathought on Jul 2, 2022 14:09:24 GMT -4
I said back on June 16th, "It will be very interesting to see how many of these rumours and possibilities; Lawrence, Biakabutuka, Ivan and Lavoie actually work out!"
There's been no mention of Biakabutuka so far and there doesn't appear to be much room for Ivan after acquiring two 20 year old forwards so it might be down to 1st pick Lavoie, if he was willing to come to CB.
Also our often mentioned core group has been reduced by the trading of Perron and Ouellet which weakens out 17 year old group going forward.
Here's hoping the Eagles hit several Home Runs in the upcoming draft to help make up for those decisions. Maybe there are some players missed in last year's draft because of Covid.
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Post by classiccaper on Jul 2, 2022 14:14:52 GMT -4
Just read an article from JF Plante about the Perron trade and Perron said he was surprised to be traded so if we can take that at face value he never asked for a trade out. And if you're Cam Squires and your brother was just traded and 2 of the top players your age were moved...what are you thinking entering your 17yr old season? Especially if those returning 17's didn't ask to be moved...you can't win without a core of 19yr olds and there's nothing ahead of that age group to contend with so are we now hoping to win when the players we draft this year are 19? Chances are there will be so much movement that it won't matter anyway. But we had a clear core to come out of this draft with and we're essentially back to square 1 meaning our fans sat through 2020-2021 for absolutely no reason. this is true. And it sucks. But, we also have picks 1, 11, 16, 19, 34 and 35. So those are some positives. You gotta think that now he will be the guy very soon and get tons of ice time |
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Post by Theplug on Jul 2, 2022 14:19:42 GMT -4
Just read an article from JF Plante about the Perron trade and Perron said he was surprised to be traded so if we can take that at face value he never asked for a trade out. Not what I heard. I didn't hear he asked for a trade but at the same time he wasn't happy with his use during his 16 season. |
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Post by JEagle on Jul 2, 2022 14:21:02 GMT -4
And if you're Cam Squires and your brother was just traded and 2 of the top players your age were moved...what are you thinking entering your 17yr old season? Especially if those returning 17's didn't ask to be moved...you can't win without a core of 19yr olds and there's nothing ahead of that age group to contend with so are we now hoping to win when the players we draft this year are 19? Chances are there will be so much movement that it won't matter anyway. But we had a clear core to come out of this draft with and we're essentially back to square 1 meaning our fans sat through 2020-2021 for absolutely no reason. this is true. And it sucks. But, we also have picks 1, 11, 16, 19, 34 and 35. So those are some positives. You gotta think that now he will be the guy very soon and get tons of ice time The only problem with trying to turn having 1,11,16,19,34 & 35 into a positive is that Sly's draft history isn't that great when you truly look at it and now with our 05 group weaken we truly can't afford to fuck this draft up especially when alot of Q scouts are saying that this isn't necessarily the strongest draft class in recent history. |
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Post by classiccaper on Jul 2, 2022 14:24:17 GMT -4
this is true. And it sucks. But, we also have picks 1, 11, 16, 19, 34 and 35. So those are some positives. You gotta think that now he will be the guy very soon and get tons of ice time The only problem with trying to turn having 1,11,16,19,34 & 35 into a positive is that Sly's draft history isn't that great when you truly look at it and now with our 05 group weaken we truly can't afford to fuck this draft up especially when alot of Q scouts are saying that this isn't necessarily the strongest draft class in recent history. hopefully where it isnt a strong draft, im hoping atleast the top 2 rounds are decent. But i agree. Gotta hit on these. And hit on them like they did with squires and not like the canning pick where he never found his game here |
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Post by JEagle on Jul 2, 2022 14:31:55 GMT -4
Just read an article from JF Plante about the Perron trade and Perron said he was surprised to be traded so if we can take that at face value he never asked for a trade out. Not what I heard. I didn't hear he asked for a trade but at the same time he wasn't happy with his use during his 16 season. Plante is usually really good when it comes to info on guys from the Gatineau area like Perron so if Perron told him he was surprised to be traded we'll just have to take it at face value. Plus Perron being unhappy with his usage last season at 16 doesn't necessarily mean he asked for a trade just that he had hoped to play more in all situations considering he was a top 10 pick which given how bad we were anyway I don't see why we didn't use him more in all situations anyway. |
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Post by JEagle on Jul 2, 2022 14:37:37 GMT -4
The only problem with trying to turn having 1,11,16,19,34 & 35 into a positive is that Sly's draft history isn't that great when you truly look at it and now with our 05 group weaken we truly can't afford to fuck this draft up especially when alot of Q scouts are saying that this isn't necessarily the strongest draft class in recent history. hopefully where it isnt a strong draft, im hoping atleast the top 2 rounds are decent. But i agree. Gotta hit on these. And hit on them like they did with squires and not like the canning pick where he never found his game here For Canning's sake I hope he can figure it out at this level as he reminds me alot of another former Eagle Peyton Hoyt great kid who scored well in U18 but had trouble finding the back of the net consistently like was hoped during his time with the Eagles. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 2, 2022 15:19:47 GMT -4
And if you're Cam Squires and your brother was just traded and 2 of the top players your age were moved...what are you thinking entering your 17yr old season? Especially if those returning 17's didn't ask to be moved...you can't win without a core of 19yr olds and there's nothing ahead of that age group to contend with so are we now hoping to win when the players we draft this year are 19? Chances are there will be so much movement that it won't matter anyway. But we had a clear core to come out of this draft with and we're essentially back to square 1 meaning our fans sat through 2020-2021 for absolutely no reason. this is true. And it sucks. But, we also have picks 1, 11, 16, 19, 34 and 35. So those are some positives. You gotta think that now he will be the guy very soon and get tons of ice time He will be the guy but with what peer group? When he is 18 we will have a weak group of 19’s and when he is 19 we still have a weak group of 19yr olds. Its like Langlois. really good player but may never actually play on a contender here as a key player. Hoping we trade for all the missing pieces just sounds like a disaster. |
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Post by sherwood1020 on Jul 2, 2022 15:23:41 GMT -4
If this happens so much for building our group of 2005's Ouellet going to Val-d'Or for 3rd round pick (48th overall) You have got to think that a good young forward like him could fetch a higher asset on the open market no? I've heard only good things about this kid |
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Post by Theplug on Jul 2, 2022 15:32:03 GMT -4
Ouellet going to Val-d'Or for 3rd round pick (48th overall) You have got to think that a good young forward like him could fetch a higher asset on the open market no? I've heard only good things about this kid And the kicker was he loved CB. Wanted to be here, was looking forward to an expanded role. Was excited for the possibility of being a leader as a 19 with this upcoming group of draft picks. Really questionable deal for the return |
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Post by justathought on Jul 2, 2022 17:07:13 GMT -4
Trading Ouellet for a 3rd round pick, # 48 makes no sense at all. The Eagles were very excited to acquire him last year and you shouldn't give up on a young player with his hockey smarts that quickly!
I don't really expect that # 48 pick to have much impact on either a rebuild or an excelerated attempt to be competitive next year, which was a stated objective some time ago.
I think most fans hoped for a carefully and well planned rebuild through the draft. We have the necessary picks this year for that rebuild but trades have weakened our 17 year old core group right now.
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