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Post by joehockey on Jun 6, 2024 12:38:07 GMT -4
Roster looks like this currently Loshing-Vidicek-Collard Sumph-Desnoyers-Mercier Smith-Lounsbury-Schlender Cormier-Sampson-Hayne You can change these guys around but they need at least 1 top 6 FW to move Sumph down to 3rd line. Probably a Euro Morin-Mackinnon Grenier-AFG Hackett-Lindsay/Dawe/Langlois/Pellitiri etc. Need at least 1 top 4 guy and probably a bottom pairing guy. Steinman Warren This is fine for now Yeah, a pretty strong roster at this stage without factoring any euros in. Being able to bring in an impact euro and have two of Mercier, Lounsbury or Sumph on the third line would definitely be a luxury that not many teams would have. Give MacDougall the ability to roll 3 lines without too much of a drop-off Hopefully MacDougall the younger has connections that he can use to draft some impact Euros. |
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Post by Briwhel on Jun 6, 2024 12:40:48 GMT -4
Roster looks like this currently Loshing-Vidicek-Collard Sumph-Desnoyers-Mercier Smith-Lounsbury-Schlender Cormier-Sampson-Hayne You can change these guys around but they need at least 1 top 6 FW to move Sumph down to 3rd line. Probably a Euro Morin-Mackinnon Grenier-AFG Hackett-Lindsay/Dawe/Langlois/Pellitiri etc. Need at least 1 top 4 guy and probably a bottom pairing guy. Steinman Warren This is fine for now Yeah, a pretty strong roster at this stage without factoring any euros in. Being able to bring in an impact euro and have two of Mercier, Lounsbury or Sumph on the third line would definitely be a luxury that not many teams would have. Hopefully MacDougall the younger has connections that he can use to draft some impact Euros. Or MacDougall the senior who just coached at the U18? |
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Post by chootoi on Jun 6, 2024 13:01:54 GMT -4
Losing Carrier sucks, but those picks from 2023 were always going to be traded for this run. It was just a matter of trading the picks then or the players now. I have no doubt Desnoyers will be inlcuded as a future in a Christmas trade. Or best case scenario if they can land a top 6F and #3D with euros then maybe that lets you hang onto Desnoyers for the rebuild. Either way those guys were never going to see their peak here. That is the cost of going all in for today's ridiculous NBA-style QMJHL market.
What's the value for Auger? A 4th?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2024 17:57:03 GMT -4
Roster looks like this currently Loshing-Vidicek-Collard Sumph-Desnoyers-Mercier Smith-Lounsbury-Schlender Cormier-Sampson-Hayne You can change these guys around but they need at least 1 top 6 FW to move Sumph down to 3rd line. Probably a Euro Morin-Mackinnon Grenier-AFG Hackett-Lindsay/Dawe/Langlois/Pellitiri etc. Need at least 1 top 4 guy and probably a bottom pairing guy. Steinman Warren This is fine for now Schlender top 9? He was not that great in MAAA |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 6, 2024 18:04:31 GMT -4
Roster looks like this currently Loshing-Vidicek-Collard Sumph-Desnoyers-Mercier Smith-Lounsbury-Schlender Cormier-Sampson-Hayne You can change these guys around but they need at least 1 top 6 FW to move Sumph down to 3rd line. Probably a Euro Morin-Mackinnon Grenier-AFG Hackett-Lindsay/Dawe/Langlois/Pellitiri etc. Need at least 1 top 4 guy and probably a bottom pairing guy. Steinman Warren This is fine for now Schlender top 9? He was not that great in MAAA Really? Says who? |
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Post by lirette on Jun 6, 2024 18:06:57 GMT -4
Roster looks like this currently Loshing-Vidicek-Collard Sumph-Desnoyers-Mercier Smith-Lounsbury-Schlender Cormier-Sampson-Hayne You can change these guys around but they need at least 1 top 6 FW to move Sumph down to 3rd line. Probably a Euro Morin-Mackinnon Grenier-AFG Hackett-Lindsay/Dawe/Langlois/Pellitiri etc. Need at least 1 top 4 guy and probably a bottom pairing guy. Steinman Warren This is fine for now Schlender top 9? He was not that great in MAAA but they need at least 1 top 6 FW to move Sumph down to 3rd line. Probably a Euro" |
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Post by Score on Jun 6, 2024 18:13:24 GMT -4
Roster looks like this currently Loshing-Vidicek-Collard Sumph-Desnoyers-Mercier Smith-Lounsbury-Schlender Cormier-Sampson-Hayne You can change these guys around but they need at least 1 top 6 FW to move Sumph down to 3rd line. Probably a Euro Morin-Mackinnon Grenier-AFG Hackett-Lindsay/Dawe/Langlois/Pellitiri etc. Need at least 1 top 4 guy and probably a bottom pairing guy. Steinman Warren This is fine for now Schlender top 9? He was not that great in MAAA I agree. A 16yr old playing U18 and picking up 25pts in 30gp...doesn't scream top 9 on a strong team. |
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Post by lirette on Jun 6, 2024 19:42:30 GMT -4
Schlender top 9? He was not that great in MAAA I agree. A 16yr old playing U18 and picking up 25pts in 30gp...doesn't scream top 9 on a strong team. but they need at least 1 top 6 FW to move Sumph down to 3rd line. Probably a Euro" |
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Post by catzfans on Jun 7, 2024 0:01:32 GMT -4
Losing Carrier sucks, but those picks from 2023 were always going to be traded for this run. It was just a matter of trading the picks then or the players now. I have no doubt Desnoyers will be inlcuded as a future in a Christmas trade. Or best case scenario if they can land a top 6F and #3D with euros then maybe that lets you hang onto Desnoyers for the rebuild. Either way those guys were never going to see their peak here. That is the cost of going all in for today's ridiculous NBA-style QMJHL market. What's the value for Auger? A 4th? I just don’t understand why make a futures deal if you aren’t getting an advantage? You gave picks to Halifax to help them pick up players when you potentially could play them last year in the playoffs. And still paid premium price for the futures? |
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Post by catzfans on Jun 7, 2024 0:02:18 GMT -4
Losing Carrier sucks, but those picks from 2023 were always going to be traded for this run. It was just a matter of trading the picks then or the players now. I have no doubt Desnoyers will be inlcuded as a future in a Christmas trade. Or best case scenario if they can land a top 6F and #3D with euros then maybe that lets you hang onto Desnoyers for the rebuild. Either way those guys were never going to see their peak here. That is the cost of going all in for today's ridiculous NBA-style QMJHL market. What's the value for Auger? A 4th? I just don’t understand why make a futures deal if you aren’t getting an advantage? You gave picks to Halifax to help them pick up players when you potentially could play them last year in the playoffs. And still paid premium price for the futures? Why not wait and make that trade in the offseason? |
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Post by lirette on Jun 7, 2024 7:41:48 GMT -4
Losing Carrier sucks, but those picks from 2023 were always going to be traded for this run. It was just a matter of trading the picks then or the players now. I have no doubt Desnoyers will be inlcuded as a future in a Christmas trade. Or best case scenario if they can land a top 6F and #3D with euros then maybe that lets you hang onto Desnoyers for the rebuild. Either way those guys were never going to see their peak here. That is the cost of going all in for today's ridiculous NBA-style QMJHL market. What's the value for Auger? A 4th? I just don’t understand why make a futures deal if you aren’t getting an advantage? You gave picks to Halifax to help them pick up players when you potentially could play them last year in the playoffs. And still paid premium price for the futures? We were probably never going to get an answer on the logic of the deal, but its even less likely with Ritchie being gone now. I don't have an issue with the price for Mackinnon assuming that he adds some offence this season, but I don't see where the Wildcats got any benefit or discount by providing Halifax with the 2025 1st they needed. One thing I really didn't like reading was that Carrier found out about his trade via social media. For a guy with a player agent background its not a great start for Taylor. I can live with the fact that he requested a trade given what happened to him last season, but he still deserves the same respect as any other player and be informed the right way. This is an assumption but all signs to me point to the fact that Moncton was going to get Vidicek for picks originally and worked out a deal to swap out the picks for Carrier and get some picks in return. If this was a trade that was worked out at Christmas Carrier would have already known it was coming. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 7, 2024 8:19:24 GMT -4
Losing Carrier sucks, but those picks from 2023 were always going to be traded for this run. It was just a matter of trading the picks then or the players now. I have no doubt Desnoyers will be inlcuded as a future in a Christmas trade. Or best case scenario if they can land a top 6F and #3D with euros then maybe that lets you hang onto Desnoyers for the rebuild. Either way those guys were never going to see their peak here. That is the cost of going all in for today's ridiculous NBA-style QMJHL market. What's the value for Auger? A 4th? I just don’t understand why make a futures deal if you aren’t getting an advantage? You gave picks to Halifax to help them pick up players when you potentially could play them last year in the playoffs. And still paid premium price for the futures? The advantage was to secure one of the most sought after non-overagers and non-imports in the league ahead of the season where you want to contend. Halifax's year was last year. Yours is this year. Both teams were content with a head-to-head if it happened because both were using their assets to load up in different years. Put MacKinnon on the auction block and you get more then a late 1st+2nd+3rd for him from CB or Rimouski. There was no premium paid here. Just the normal price for one of the best D on the market that doesn't take up any special slot in a Mem Cup host season. MacKinnon and Roy are very different players yet expected to have similar impacts over the entire season as impactful defencemen who are expected to play in a top 4 role every night. MacKinnon more gritty and in a leadership role. Roy more offensive but also expected to lead. Roy as an overager got 2 2025 1sts+3rd+5th+7th+a depth 19yr old MacKinnon at 19 got 1 2025 1st+2+3 |
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Post by lirette on Jun 7, 2024 9:21:50 GMT -4
I just don’t understand why make a futures deal if you aren’t getting an advantage? You gave picks to Halifax to help them pick up players when you potentially could play them last year in the playoffs. And still paid premium price for the futures? The advantage was to secure one of the most sought after non-overagers and non-imports in the league ahead of the season where you want to contend. Halifax's year was last year. Yours is this year. Both teams were content with a head-to-head if it happened because both were using their assets to load up in different years. Put MacKinnon on the auction block and you get more then a late 1st+2nd+3rd for him from CB or Rimouski. There was no premium paid here. Just the normal price for one of the best D on the market that doesn't take up any special slot in a Mem Cup host season. MacKinnon and Roy are very different players yet expected to have similar impacts over the entire season as impactful defencemen who are expected to play in a top 4 role every night. MacKinnon more gritty and in a leadership role. Roy more offensive but also expected to lead. Roy as an overager got 2 2025 1sts+3rd+5th+7th+a depth 19yr old MacKinnon at 19 got 1 2025 1st+2+3 The price for Roy is definitely an important context when evaluating the price for MacKinnon. Also its possible that MacKinnon would have cost more at the deadline and paying for him now also means you get him for an addition 30 games or so which is worth a lot when you factor in the strength of the conference this season. 4 teams will have a legitimate shot at 1st. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 7, 2024 9:24:57 GMT -4
The advantage was to secure one of the most sought after non-overagers and non-imports in the league ahead of the season where you want to contend. Halifax's year was last year. Yours is this year. Both teams were content with a head-to-head if it happened because both were using their assets to load up in different years. Put MacKinnon on the auction block and you get more then a late 1st+2nd+3rd for him from CB or Rimouski. There was no premium paid here. Just the normal price for one of the best D on the market that doesn't take up any special slot in a Mem Cup host season. MacKinnon and Roy are very different players yet expected to have similar impacts over the entire season as impactful defencemen who are expected to play in a top 4 role every night. MacKinnon more gritty and in a leadership role. Roy more offensive but also expected to lead. Roy as an overager got 2 2025 1sts+3rd+5th+7th+a depth 19yr old MacKinnon at 19 got 1 2025 1st+2+3 The price for Roy is definitely an important context when evaluating the price for MacKinnon. Also its possible that MacKinnon would have cost more at the deadline and paying for him now also means you get him for an addition 30 games or so which is worth a lot when you factor in the strength of the conference this season. 4 teams will have a legitimate shot at 1st. Exactly. I can already see myself shaking my head at teams that will be going all in while also not even being in a great position to have home ice in round 2. |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 15, 2024 10:48:44 GMT -4
Read on the MHL Network board that the Cats are signing a 2005 d-man from the MHL - speculation that it could be Simon Mullen as we just drafted his younger brother.
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