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Post by jahd on Feb 14, 2023 0:36:12 GMT -4
So Brady has somehow offended you? 1) The +/- you quoted was wrong when you posted it. He's also only been bottom 5 on the team in +/- once in his career (his rookie year). 2) It's heavily influenced by playing on a 17th place team and a team currently in 17th. He's not a centre. He's not a full time C but he has taken about 580 faceoffs over 5 seasons & rates ~43% as reported. The other data is also accurate. Yes he played on some very bad SJ teams. So did some others his same draft year. His CORSI and +/- was significantly worse, take that for what it's worth. He's a great offensive player. His numbers prove that. No debate. BTW this isn't new - lookup the 2018 Gatorade Challenge stats. 3rd last on the entire NS team in +/- with 2pts in 5 GP behind 5 other forwards and 1 D. Regardless, he was drafted 2nd round by the Sea Dogs & played 5 full seasons, never getting sent down once despite the horrid +/- in the first season. No comparable player I can think of in the 02 class that got that kind of preferential treatment by any Q team with those numbers. Hard to understand how he was gifted the QMJHL opportunity ahead of some of his peers, despite the weak defensive numbers from day 1. Seemed like he had an inside track somehow. Just a random observation from someone who watched a lot of 2000/2001/2002/2003 kids in the Maritimes over the years. I imagine he'll find himself a spot on a USPORTS team.
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Post by dogshockeyfan on Feb 14, 2023 7:34:48 GMT -4
OH BABY I had an ice cream at Sundays game and MAN it was good!!!
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Post by Briwhel on Feb 14, 2023 9:08:32 GMT -4
So Brady has somehow offended you? 1) The +/- you quoted was wrong when you posted it. He's also only been bottom 5 on the team in +/- once in his career (his rookie year). 2) It's heavily influenced by playing on a 17th place team and a team currently in 17th. He's not a centre. He's not a full time C but he has taken about 580 faceoffs over 5 seasons & rates ~43% as reported. The other data is also accurate. Yes he played on some very bad SJ teams. So did some others his same draft year. His CORSI and +/- was significantly worse, take that for what it's worth. He's a great offensive player. His numbers prove that. No debate. Burns has less faceoffs in 5 seasons than Burbidge does THIS YEAR. That's not a C. He's also -40, not -43. And he and Charlie are literally the only guys from his 16 year-old season to play for us this year. Alex Grant had a worse +/-, Rioux's was worse, Sparling's +/- was worse as was Zilbert's. You have literally picked out one of two players that played in 2 bad seasons and made an assumption based on that. Note: none of the guys that I mentioned were bad defensively, they just played on bad teams.
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Post by Briwhel on Feb 14, 2023 9:18:22 GMT -4
He's not a full time C but he has taken about 580 faceoffs over 5 seasons & rates ~43% as reported. The other data is also accurate. Yes he played on some very bad SJ teams. So did some others his same draft year. His CORSI and +/- was significantly worse, take that for what it's worth. He's a great offensive player. His numbers prove that. No debate. BTW this isn't new - lookup the 2018 Gatorade Challenge stats. 3rd last on the entire NS team in +/- with 2pts in 5 GP behind 5 other forwards and 1 D. Regardless, he was drafted 2nd round by the Sea Dogs & played 5 full seasons, never getting sent down once despite the horrid +/- in the first season. No comparable player I can think of in the 02 class that got that kind of preferential treatment by any Q team with those numbers. Hard to understand how he was gifted the QMJHL opportunity ahead of some of his peers, despite the weak defensive numbers from day 1. Seemed like he had an inside track somehow. Just a random observation from someone who watched a lot of 2000/2001/2002/2003 kids in the Maritimes over the years. I imagine he'll find himself a spot on a USPORTS team. Again, this is pure and utter crap. Burns wasn't the worst player on that team and is definitely not the worst 2nd round pick to play at 16 for SJ.
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Post by dogshockeyfan on Feb 14, 2023 10:44:59 GMT -4
Did you guys know you can get sprinkles on your ice cream at the games!!!!
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Post by jdubs23 on Feb 14, 2023 14:25:03 GMT -4
Since we're spitting out random numbers: Burns has had 102 of his shots blocked this season, 52 more than the next closest on the team (DesRoches).
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Post by dannyj178 on Feb 14, 2023 18:47:36 GMT -4
He's not a full time C but he has taken about 580 faceoffs over 5 seasons & rates ~43% as reported. The other data is also accurate. Yes he played on some very bad SJ teams. So did some others his same draft year. His CORSI and +/- was significantly worse, take that for what it's worth. He's a great offensive player. His numbers prove that. No debate. BTW this isn't new - lookup the 2018 Gatorade Challenge stats. 3rd last on the entire NS team in +/- with 2pts in 5 GP behind 5 other forwards and 1 D. Regardless, he was drafted 2nd round by the Sea Dogs & played 5 full seasons, never getting sent down once despite the horrid +/- in the first season. No comparable player I can think of in the 02 class that got that kind of preferential treatment by any Q team with those numbers. Hard to understand how he was gifted the QMJHL opportunity ahead of some of his peers, despite the weak defensive numbers from day 1. Seemed like he had an inside track somehow. Just a random observation from someone who watched a lot of 2000/2001/2002/2003 kids in the Maritimes over the years. I imagine he'll find himself a spot on a USPORTS team. Definitely a very weird take maybe sense your the atlantic canada head scout you would have known burns didn’t play for 5 months until that tournament but once again you got all the numbers, maybe look at how he compares to offensive play against all the 02s in the 18’ draft but just a suggestion
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Post by dannyj178 on Feb 14, 2023 18:52:14 GMT -4
He's not a full time C but he has taken about 580 faceoffs over 5 seasons & rates ~43% as reported. The other data is also accurate. Yes he played on some very bad SJ teams. So did some others his same draft year. His CORSI and +/- was significantly worse, take that for what it's worth. He's a great offensive player. His numbers prove that. No debate. BTW this isn't new - lookup the 2018 Gatorade Challenge stats. 3rd last on the entire NS team in +/- with 2pts in 5 GP behind 5 other forwards and 1 D. Regardless, he was drafted 2nd round by the Sea Dogs & played 5 full seasons, never getting sent down once despite the horrid +/- in the first season. No comparable player I can think of in the 02 class that got that kind of preferential treatment by any Q team with those numbers. Hard to understand how he was gifted the QMJHL opportunity ahead of some of his peers, despite the weak defensive numbers from day 1. Seemed like he had an inside track somehow. Just a random observation from someone who watched a lot of 2000/2001/2002/2003 kids in the Maritimes over the years. I imagine he'll find himself a spot on a USPORTS team. also would be interesting to see what players you would have taken over him to play at 16 vs how they have done in the league vs him.. because he ranks third in points and tied for first in goals with another peer who already has played in the nhl…
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Post by tendy1989 on Feb 14, 2023 19:33:51 GMT -4
He's not a full time C but he has taken about 580 faceoffs over 5 seasons & rates ~43% as reported. The other data is also accurate. Yes he played on some very bad SJ teams. So did some others his same draft year. His CORSI and +/- was significantly worse, take that for what it's worth. He's a great offensive player. His numbers prove that. No debate. BTW this isn't new - lookup the 2018 Gatorade Challenge stats. 3rd last on the entire NS team in +/- with 2pts in 5 GP behind 5 other forwards and 1 D. Regardless, he was drafted 2nd round by the Sea Dogs & played 5 full seasons, never getting sent down once despite the horrid +/- in the first season. No comparable player I can think of in the 02 class that got that kind of preferential treatment by any Q team with those numbers. Hard to understand how he was gifted the QMJHL opportunity ahead of some of his peers, despite the weak defensive numbers from day 1. Seemed like he had an inside track somehow. Just a random observation from someone who watched a lot of 2000/2001/2002/2003 kids in the Maritimes over the years. I imagine he'll find himself a spot on a USPORTS team. Hahahahahaha this guy is bringing up the "Gatorade Challenge". That has to be a joke right?? Your kid play on Team NS and get the snips from the major junior? Had to of. Look what the kid has accomplished for this squad. Kid is a pure goal scorer. Sorry he's not Bobby Clarke. Why take the time to rip the kid apart? He's a 20 year old kid that's just trying to play hockey. Sure he's made some mistakes but he seems like a good kid. I literally saw him have a 15 minute conversation with a special needs fan in Tim Hortons before a game a few months ago. Who ever your JR A kid is that isn't quite his caliber would be quite embarrassed to know you were going after a kid on the internet. To your USPORTS comment, I'd love you to look up how many players signed professional contracts out of USPORTS last year alone... Your statements are completely and utterly invalid and moronic.. Stay in your lane and shut your mouth... you jabroni
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Post by jahd on Feb 14, 2023 21:55:17 GMT -4
BTW this isn't new - lookup the 2018 Gatorade Challenge stats. 3rd last on the entire NS team in +/- with 2pts in 5 GP behind 5 other forwards and 1 D. Regardless, he was drafted 2nd round by the Sea Dogs & played 5 full seasons, never getting sent down once despite the horrid +/- in the first season. No comparable player I can think of in the 02 class that got that kind of preferential treatment by any Q team with those numbers. Hard to understand how he was gifted the QMJHL opportunity ahead of some of his peers, despite the weak defensive numbers from day 1. Seemed like he had an inside track somehow. Just a random observation from someone who watched a lot of 2000/2001/2002/2003 kids in the Maritimes over the years. I imagine he'll find himself a spot on a USPORTS team. Hahahahahaha this guy is bringing up the "Gatorade Challenge". That has to be a joke right?? Your kid play on Team NS and get the snips from the major junior? Had to of. Look what the kid has accomplished for this squad. Kid is a pure goal scorer. Sorry he's not Bobby Clarke. Why take the time to rip the kid apart? He's a 20 year old kid that's just trying to play hockey. Sure he's made some mistakes but he seems like a good kid. I literally saw him have a 15 minute conversation with a special needs fan in Tim Hortons before a game a few months ago. Who ever your JR A kid is that isn't quite his caliber would be quite embarrassed to know you were going after a kid on the internet. To your USPORTS comment, I'd love you to look up how many players signed professional contracts out of USPORTS last year alone... Your statements are completely and utterly invalid and moronic.. Stay in your lane and shut your mouth... you jabroni I wish him all the best. Humble kid bright future.
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Post by jahd on Feb 14, 2023 22:14:48 GMT -4
BTW this isn't new - lookup the 2018 Gatorade Challenge stats. 3rd last on the entire NS team in +/- with 2pts in 5 GP behind 5 other forwards and 1 D. Regardless, he was drafted 2nd round by the Sea Dogs & played 5 full seasons, never getting sent down once despite the horrid +/- in the first season. No comparable player I can think of in the 02 class that got that kind of preferential treatment by any Q team with those numbers. Hard to understand how he was gifted the QMJHL opportunity ahead of some of his peers, despite the weak defensive numbers from day 1. Seemed like he had an inside track somehow. Just a random observation from someone who watched a lot of 2000/2001/2002/2003 kids in the Maritimes over the years. I imagine he'll find himself a spot on a USPORTS team. also would be interesting to see what players you would have taken over him to play at 16 vs how they have done in the league vs him.. because he ranks third in points and tied for first in goals with another peer who already has played in the nhl… Ben Allison is an obvious one. But he was only taken 7 spots later in the 2nd round. Cole Cormier 3rd round. Jake Quillan (went NCAA - so we'll never know what he could have done in the Q). The '02 class wasn't very deep in the Maritimes - he's made the best of his opportunity.
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Post by jahd on Feb 14, 2023 22:16:22 GMT -4
BTW this isn't new - lookup the 2018 Gatorade Challenge stats. 3rd last on the entire NS team in +/- with 2pts in 5 GP behind 5 other forwards and 1 D. Regardless, he was drafted 2nd round by the Sea Dogs & played 5 full seasons, never getting sent down once despite the horrid +/- in the first season. No comparable player I can think of in the 02 class that got that kind of preferential treatment by any Q team with those numbers. Hard to understand how he was gifted the QMJHL opportunity ahead of some of his peers, despite the weak defensive numbers from day 1. Seemed like he had an inside track somehow. Just a random observation from someone who watched a lot of 2000/2001/2002/2003 kids in the Maritimes over the years. I imagine he'll find himself a spot on a USPORTS team. Definitely a very weird take maybe sense your the atlantic canada head scout you would have known burns didn’t play for 5 months until that tournament but once again you got all the numbers, maybe look at how he compares to offensive play against all the 02s in the 18’ draft but just a suggestion His offensive play is definitely not in question.
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Post by tim08 on Feb 14, 2023 22:53:31 GMT -4
I'm not a big Brady Burns fan but he has really improved his defensive play the second half but he has to stop yapping at the refs every shift. I'm an official and if a player or coach yaps the whole game the chances of a close call or non call going your way is nil.
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Post by dannyj178 on Feb 14, 2023 23:42:01 GMT -4
also would be interesting to see what players you would have taken over him to play at 16 vs how they have done in the league vs him.. because he ranks third in points and tied for first in goals with another peer who already has played in the nhl… Ben Allison is an obvious one. But he was only taken 7 spots later in the 2nd round. Cole Cormier 3rd round. Jake Quillan (went NCAA - so we'll never know what he could have done in the Q). The '02 class wasn't very deep in the Maritimes - he's made the best of his opportunity. so a player he’s produced more then in every year is an obvious one? tough take
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Post by jahd on Feb 15, 2023 2:08:20 GMT -4
Ben Allison is an obvious one. But he was only taken 7 spots later in the 2nd round. Cole Cormier 3rd round. Jake Quillan (went NCAA - so we'll never know what he could have done in the Q). The '02 class wasn't very deep in the Maritimes - he's made the best of his opportunity. so a player he’s produced more then in every year is an obvious one? tough take If points is the only metric you care about, sure.
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