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Dec 5, 2023 18:40:07 GMT -4
Post by Steeler1 on Dec 5, 2023 18:40:07 GMT -4
The NHL are discussing eliminating the icing on the penalty kill. It can't come soon enough.
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Dec 5, 2023 18:50:47 GMT -4
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Post by Score on Dec 5, 2023 18:50:47 GMT -4
The NHL are discussing eliminating the icing on the penalty kill. It can't come soon enough. Are they........or is it just being tried out at the PWHL Scrimmages? |
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Post by bois on Dec 6, 2023 8:55:50 GMT -4
why would they consider that?
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Dec 6, 2023 9:02:58 GMT -4
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Post by Naomi on Dec 6, 2023 9:02:58 GMT -4
It would be interesting to see since it would completely revamp the strategy for penalty kills, but I doubt we'd ever see it.
The one I have heard though is scoring on the power play wouldn't end the power play, like it was years ago.
Though personally one rule I'd like to see changed is scoring shorthanded would end the power play (exception being 5 minute penalties, and 4 minutes get cut down to 2 in the first half). If you have a clear advantage over the other team and youb still screw up, do you really deserve to keep that advantage?
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Post by bois on Dec 6, 2023 9:09:36 GMT -4
makes no sense to me to even consider removing the icing the puck while killing a penalty rule
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Post by jimmy on Dec 6, 2023 9:35:40 GMT -4
makes no sense to me to even consider removing the icing the puck while killing a penalty rule Agreed - I don't see a need to do anything in this area - to me powerplays work pretty well the way they are. No need to allow unlimited goals, remove the PP if a SH goal is scored, or anything else at this time. I would rather see them do something to stop the circling in and out of the zone on the OT 3 on 3 ... |
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Post by bois on Dec 6, 2023 9:37:03 GMT -4
makes no sense to me to even consider removing the icing the puck while killing a penalty rule Agreed - I don't see a need to do anything in this area - to me powerplays work pretty well the way they are. No need to allow unlimited goals, remove the PP if a SH goal is scored, or anything else at this time. I would rather see them do something to stop the circling in and out of the zone on the OT 3 on 3 ... yes this please |
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Dec 6, 2023 10:08:45 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 6, 2023 10:08:45 GMT -4
#1...source? I call BS that this is actually seriously being considered.
#2...if this were to happen players would just get better at angling the puck off the glass to get it out of the zone but not down the ice.
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Dec 6, 2023 10:12:21 GMT -4
Post by Briwhel on Dec 6, 2023 10:12:21 GMT -4
#1...source? I call BS that this is actually seriously being considered. #2...if this were to happen players would just get better at angling the puck off the glass to get it out of the zone but not down the ice. It's been "discussed" at the BoG meetings multiple times. There are a couple of owners who like the idea and a lot who despise it. There just happen to be enough to get it on the agenda. The needless delaying of the game is foolish and should be called (technically, leaving the zone for no reason is a delay of game which would result in a faceoff in your own end for failure to advance the puck). We don't need the rule changed; we just need the league to ask the officials to call it as intended. |
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Dec 6, 2023 10:16:04 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 6, 2023 10:16:04 GMT -4
#1...source? I call BS that this is actually seriously being considered. #2...if this were to happen players would just get better at angling the puck off the glass to get it out of the zone but not down the ice. It's been "discussed" at the BoG meetings multiple times. There are a couple of owners who like the idea and a lot who despise it. There just happen to be enough to get it on the agenda. The needless delaying of the game is foolish and should be called (technically, leaving the zone for no reason is a delay of game which would result in a faceoff in your own end for failure to advance the puck). We don't need the rule changed; we just need the league to ask the officials to call it as intended. Yeah thats my point....many things are discussed at the BoG meetings...doesnt mean any of it becomes anything in terms of rule changes. This isn't a front burner item about to happen or getting a ton of support. |
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Dec 6, 2023 14:31:28 GMT -4
Post by bois on Dec 6, 2023 14:31:28 GMT -4
Icing the puck killing a penalty is not delaying the game what are you talking about?
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Dec 6, 2023 14:34:59 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 6, 2023 14:34:59 GMT -4
Icing the puck killing a penalty is not delaying the game what are you talking about? He's basically saying that not going forward/attacking and maintaining possession by retreating is delay of game. I don't know anyone who interprets the rule in that way or thinks the game would benefit by doing so. |
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Dec 6, 2023 14:39:36 GMT -4
Post by bois on Dec 6, 2023 14:39:36 GMT -4
Icing the puck killing a penalty is not delaying the game what are you talking about? He's basically saying that not going forward/attacking and maintaining possession by retreating is delay of game. I don't know anyone who interprets the rule in that way or thinks the game would benefit by doing so. yeah i know what he's saying.... that doesn't apply to a short handed team icing the puck in any way at all... they aren't retreating by doing so and you can't expect shorthanded teams to attack especially if the icing comes after a lengthy possession by the team with the man advantage just a ludicrous suggestion all around |
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Dec 6, 2023 14:41:33 GMT -4
Post by Briwhel on Dec 6, 2023 14:41:33 GMT -4
Icing the puck killing a penalty is not delaying the game what are you talking about? He's basically saying that not going forward/attacking and maintaining possession by retreating is delay of game. I don't know anyone who interprets the rule in that way or thinks the game would benefit by doing so. I'm saying that the current delay of game rules would allow officials to blow the play dead when guys retreat out of the offensive zone in OT (this falls under the same delay of game stoppage rule where the ref can blow play down if you refuse to leave your own end with the puck). It is a discretionary call (so only when players leave the zone without any real pressure against) |
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Dec 6, 2023 14:43:15 GMT -4
Post by Briwhel on Dec 6, 2023 14:43:15 GMT -4
He's basically saying that not going forward/attacking and maintaining possession by retreating is delay of game. I don't know anyone who interprets the rule in that way or thinks the game would benefit by doing so. yeah i know what he's saying.... that doesn't apply to a short handed team icing the puck in any way at all... they aren't retreating by doing so and you can't expect shorthanded teams to attack especially if the icing comes after a lengthy possession by the team with the man advantage just a ludicrous suggestion all around This was about the other thing the BoG is discussing (the 3 on 3 retreat to your own end BS) |
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