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Post by qfan24 on Sept 13, 2024 10:28:59 GMT -4
So the 50/50 is $9,000 and they gave every season ticket holder $20 in tickets... means 450 season ticket sales? That's horrible. And now trying to build attendance to a home opener with BOGO essentially. Not looking good for attendance. Do you have any suggestions on how to get more people to come to games? Season tickets is a privilege that not everyone can permit themselves. Audience wise, I think they are doing allot already: promotions, bogo food, team community events/participation Things to make better: parking fees and social media parking: allot of rinks in the Q do not charge for parking. Not saying make it free, but something to think about. We are in 2024, they have to use social media more to reach out more people: get to know the players (where are they from, studies, brother sisters, favorite meal, favorite movies...), social media means younger crowd: bogo tickets for students more often with bogo food to make sure they spends moms money Better to have someone paying less in a seat that having it empty I think. Although there's plenty of space, I doubt the Sea dogs will ever get the Rempart season average audience of 9800+ which is crazy considering they had a bad season. Last season looks like we average 2760 which is not bad at all ( 8th out of 18). But the station is huge, tough to feel the crowd.
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Post by Briwhel on Sept 13, 2024 10:39:39 GMT -4
So the 50/50 is $9,000 and they gave every season ticket holder $20 in tickets... means 450 season ticket sales? That's horrible. And now trying to build attendance to a home opener with BOGO essentially. Not looking good for attendance. Do you have any suggestions on how to get more people to come to games? Season tickets is a privilege that not everyone can permit themselves. Audience wise, I think they are doing allot already: promotions, bogo food, team community events/participation Things to make better: parking fees and social media parking: allot of rinks in the Q do not charge for parking. Not saying make it free, but something to think about. We are in 2024, they have to use social media more to reach out more people: get to know the players (where are they from, studies, brother sisters, favorite meal, favorite movies...), social media means younger crowd: bogo tickets for students more often with bogo food to make sure they spends moms money Better to have someone paying less in a seat that having it empty I think. Although there's plenty of space, I doubt the Sea dogs will ever get the Rempart season average audience of 9800+ which is crazy considering they had a bad season. Last season looks like we average 2760 which is not bad at all ( 8th out of 18). But the station is huge, tough to feel the crowd. TD Station's capacity is only around 6K. Some of the problems surrounding the team that is hindering fan support include: cost of tickets, cost of concessions, spending power of their potential audience, frustration with the product (between the team being unenjoyable to watch even when they were good last cycle and certain referees making the games unwatchable at times), game times (this one is hard to avoid), and the insistence that fans should blindly trust the process after this management regime did a piss-poor job of building the last team (see the ridiculous number of goalies that were acquired and dumped or the lack of defensive structure for the entire last cycle other the Memorial Cup tournament itself)
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Post by qfan24 on Sept 13, 2024 11:00:50 GMT -4
Do you have any suggestions on how to get more people to come to games? Season tickets is a privilege that not everyone can permit themselves. Audience wise, I think they are doing allot already: promotions, bogo food, team community events/participation Things to make better: parking fees and social media parking: allot of rinks in the Q do not charge for parking. Not saying make it free, but something to think about. We are in 2024, they have to use social media more to reach out more people: get to know the players (where are they from, studies, brother sisters, favorite meal, favorite movies...), social media means younger crowd: bogo tickets for students more often with bogo food to make sure they spends moms money Better to have someone paying less in a seat that having it empty I think. Although there's plenty of space, I doubt the Sea dogs will ever get the Rempart season average audience of 9800+ which is crazy considering they had a bad season. Last season looks like we average 2760 which is not bad at all ( 8th out of 18). But the station is huge, tough to feel the crowd. TD Station's capacity is only around 6K. Some of the problems surrounding the team that is hindering fan support include: cost of tickets, cost of concessions, spending power of their potential audience, frustration with the product (between the team being unenjoyable to watch even when they were good last cycle and certain referees making the games unwatchable at times), game times (this one is hard to avoid), and the insistence that fans should blindly trust the process after this management regime did a piss-poor job of building the last team (see the ridiculous number of goalies that were acquired and dumped or the lack of defensive structure for the entire last cycle other the Memorial Cup tournament itself) Do you have anything positive ? lol Ticket price wise, looks like we are average price compared to other teams. I also tend to think coaching wise, changes are required. We have allot of talented players on this team, but can't seem to spark it which I tend to think that coaching wise, we need a reboot. We shouldn't have to pick a random guy form the OHL...focus on current/drafted players.
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Post by SjRinkSideRebel on Sept 13, 2024 11:21:08 GMT -4
Travis is a good coach, and has been exposed to upper coaching levels with success. But you have to admit, he had not much to work with in the past season. So, I think he does deserve a chance to show he can do something with the team he has now. Saying that, he has only had a finalized TEAM in the last week (definitely not enough time to introduce culture, systems introduction, players buy in, etc.)
I personally think mid season will be a breaking point if results are not progressing, but we are not at that point yet.
From my post the other day, two major issues from last season remain: we allowed over 50 shots against in many games, and our forecheck was virtually non-existent on a consistent bases except for a few players.
Allowing 50-plus shots a game, combined with our goaltending numbers, leads to around 4.5 to 5.5 goals against per game. Last season, we averaged 2.7 goals per game while allowing 4.3. If we don’t add more scoring, the only way to win is by cutting down on shots against and chipping away offensively with a stronger forecheck. We don’t have two or three top league scorers to carry the team.
The system I see working for our group is built on aggressive forechecking, quick transitions, and tight gap control. We have to emphasize pressuring the puck carrier early in all zones, forcing turnovers, and minimizing time and space for opponents to make plays. Our defensemen have to maintain strong gap control by staying close to attackers, using speed and positioning to limit offensive options, while our forwards support by cutting off passing lanes and forcing the play to the outside. A structured, fast-paced approach will add more controlled possession and limit high-quality scoring chances against. (we can't eliminate all shots, but we need below 30 shots against per game)
We can score 3 to 4 goals a game if we forecheck consistently, but can we tighten up the defense (and backcheck) to allow only 30 shots against maximum? Statistically it's the only way to win games right now.
If Travis can get the group to do this as a minimum (and I would assume this is on the radar #1) then it would be progress. We will see where we end up at XMAS.
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Post by Briwhel on Sept 13, 2024 12:13:05 GMT -4
TD Station's capacity is only around 6K. Some of the problems surrounding the team that is hindering fan support include: cost of tickets, cost of concessions, spending power of their potential audience, frustration with the product (between the team being unenjoyable to watch even when they were good last cycle and certain referees making the games unwatchable at times), game times (this one is hard to avoid), and the insistence that fans should blindly trust the process after this management regime did a piss-poor job of building the last team (see the ridiculous number of goalies that were acquired and dumped or the lack of defensive structure for the entire last cycle other the Memorial Cup tournament itself) Do you have anything positive ? lol Ticket price wise, looks like we are average price compared to other teams. I also tend to think coaching wise, changes are required. We have allot of talented players on this team, but can't seem to spark it which I tend to think that coaching wise, we need a reboot. We shouldn't have to pick a random guy form the OHL...focus on current/drafted players. I actually like the current coaching staff. I did not like the previous one other than the month+ at the end of that run. In terms of prices, the issue with looking at prices is that people want to compare them to other teams, but the real competition are the other activities I can be doing. I can buy 2 tickets to Cineplex for around $32 and have a better chance of enjoying myself (because I can pick things that I know I will like). The QMJHL is the low end of entertainment around here IMO, like a movie. Going into the higher end, I can go see Frozen in Time for $32 a person, $51 to see Tom Green, ZORKA for $62.50, Christmas with the Ennis sisters for $45, and/or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for $62. There's also $79 for the entire Women's U18 Worlds at the QPlex, and Crystal which starts at $49 for an adult. While these are more expensive, each one is also potentially significantly more enjoyable than a single Sea Dogs game and definitely has less variability about a person's enjoyment.
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Post by qfan24 on Sept 13, 2024 13:57:18 GMT -4
Do you have anything positive ? lol Ticket price wise, looks like we are average price compared to other teams. I also tend to think coaching wise, changes are required. We have allot of talented players on this team, but can't seem to spark it which I tend to think that coaching wise, we need a reboot. We shouldn't have to pick a random guy form the OHL...focus on current/drafted players. I actually like the current coaching staff. I did not like the previous one other than the month+ at the end of that run. In terms of prices, the issue with looking at prices is that people want to compare them to other teams, but the real competition are the other activities I can be doing. I can buy 2 tickets to Cineplex for around $32 and have a better chance of enjoying myself (because I can pick things that I know I will like). The QMJHL is the low end of entertainment around here IMO, like a movie. Going into the higher end, I can go see Frozen in Time for $32 a person, $51 to see Tom Green, ZORKA for $62.50, Christmas with the Ennis sisters for $45, and/or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for $62. There's also $79 for the entire Women's U18 Worlds at the QPlex, and Crystal which starts at $49 for an adult. While these are more expensive, each one is also potentially significantly more enjoyable than a single Sea Dogs game and definitely has less variability about a person's enjoyment. so these arguments means you will not be coming to any games until, prices are lower and the team is winning more.
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Post by Briwhel on Sept 13, 2024 14:13:30 GMT -4
I actually like the current coaching staff. I did not like the previous one other than the month+ at the end of that run. In terms of prices, the issue with looking at prices is that people want to compare them to other teams, but the real competition are the other activities I can be doing. I can buy 2 tickets to Cineplex for around $32 and have a better chance of enjoying myself (because I can pick things that I know I will like). The QMJHL is the low end of entertainment around here IMO, like a movie. Going into the higher end, I can go see Frozen in Time for $32 a person, $51 to see Tom Green, ZORKA for $62.50, Christmas with the Ennis sisters for $45, and/or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for $62. There's also $79 for the entire Women's U18 Worlds at the QPlex, and Crystal which starts at $49 for an adult. While these are more expensive, each one is also potentially significantly more enjoyable than a single Sea Dogs game and definitely has less variability about a person's enjoyment. so these arguments means you will not be coming to any games until, prices are lower and the team is winning more. Not at all. My situation is not necessarily the same as every one else's. I will be buying the stream for this year to be able to watch games at home, then I will make decisions on individual games based on who they are playing, if it is convenient, and if I have anything else that I would rather do. My point is that when gauging the prices, the product has to be compared to alternatives to it, not to other teams (because driving to Moncton isn't a reasonable option for most games). The biggest thing SJ could do to improve their product (and this has been true for years) is not have Jeff Hopkins referee their games. I don't have anything against him, but having someone from the city whose wife is a former employee of the team ref the games makes for a mess every time.
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Post by Briwhel on Sept 14, 2024 11:34:38 GMT -4
Only one player different, but a much better looking lineup:
Miller - Schenk - Lominac Rozzi - Yared - Reynolds Dube - Groulx - Cross Calder - Beaulieu - Ferdinand
Caputo - Duhamel MacLean - Scanzano Bonnet - Amyot
Gravel
To face Charlottetown tonight.
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Post by SjRinkSideRebel on Sept 14, 2024 12:25:20 GMT -4
Only one player different, but a much better looking lineup: Miller - Schenk - Lominac Rozzi - Yared - Reynolds Dube - Groulx - Cross Calder - Beaulieu - Ferdinand Caputo - Duhamel MacLean - Scanzano Bonnet - Amyot Gravel To face Charlottetown tonight. where did they list the game lines?
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Post by ysj28 on Sept 14, 2024 12:28:55 GMT -4
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Post by SjRinkSideRebel on Sept 14, 2024 13:22:35 GMT -4
Never used that site before.. what exactly is that site, and how does it work. Access seems tricky
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Post by ysj28 on Sept 14, 2024 13:37:08 GMT -4
Never used that site before.. what exactly is that site, and how does it work. Access seems tricky If you click lines on the Q site here , it brings it to the lineups for the game. chl.ca/lhjmq/en/gamecentre/31128/
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Post by SjRinkSideRebel on Sept 14, 2024 14:02:11 GMT -4
Never used that site before.. what exactly is that site, and how does it work. Access seems tricky If you click likes on the Q site here , it brings it to the lineups for the game. chl.ca/lhjmq/en/gamecentre/31128/yes, I have used that before, but where does it list the line by line combos? the 1st , 2nd etc line combos and defensive pairings?
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Post by Citris on Sept 14, 2024 15:51:41 GMT -4
yes, I have used that before, but where does it list the line by line combos? the 1st , 2nd etc line combos and defensive pairings? There's a link on the page that says "lines". It will download a PDF that lists the rosters each team submitted to the league.
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Post by SjRinkSideRebel on Sept 14, 2024 16:06:34 GMT -4
yes, I have used that before, but where does it list the line by line combos? the 1st , 2nd etc line combos and defensive pairings? There's a link on the page that says "lines". It will download a PDF that lists the rosters each team submitted to the league. yes, I have used that before, but where does it list the line by line combos? the 1st line , 2nd line etc line combos and defensive pairings? Briwhel had the actual lines listed.
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