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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 3, 2024 10:07:13 GMT -4
My guess is, after the season Lacroix heads to Europe and RKI looks for a big name coach. Great but why did this season have to be thrown away? I’m not saying this was a championship team by any means but a run to the third round was a decent possibility. Why would an owner who supposedly “wants to win” do nothing when it was clearly obvious there was a fixable problem? Better be one hell of a coaching hire to make up for this season. I agree, like a slow motion traffic accident and nobody doing anything. |
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Post by wildcatsss on Apr 3, 2024 10:16:15 GMT -4
My guess is, after the season Lacroix heads to Europe and RKI looks for a big name coach. Great but why did this season have to be thrown away? I’m not saying this was a championship team by any means but a run to the third round was a decent possibility. Why would an owner who supposedly “wants to win” do nothing when it was clearly obvious there was a fixable problem? Better be one hell of a coaching hire to make up for this season. A coach who make their players accountable, who put players in the right chairs in the lineup, veteran or not. Even if the kid is 16-17 yo doesn't mean he's not ready to take on an important role. To think otherwise is an obsolete way of coaching. Give icetime to those who care and deserve it. Know your players and their upsides. We need a leader behind the bench who acknowledge and reinforce the player's strenghts and work individually with them on their deficiencies. No favoritism. Every player is part of the team and should feel like he can contribute to everyone success. A coach who is active and communicate constantly (on and off the ice) to keep the bench engaged during the game and who teaches during the practices. Can you find it Ritchie (Irving)? |
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Post by wildcatsss on Apr 3, 2024 12:08:37 GMT -4
One of the big issues I see is the hoopla that is given for those early round draft picks. In the end, it‘s a highly subjective decision. Many of these players have fancy decorated contracts with lots of conditions that have to be met, which complicates the job of the coaching staff. Imagine a 2nd round pick that ends up performing less than mediocre but who is not allowed to be scratched EVER. Now imagine half the roster having such conditions…. It is absolute BS IMO. If a player is highly ranked and esteemed, , there should be no need for fancy conditions. Let the free market rule!!! And if need be, they shall work their way up the ranks. Just look at Müller (was drafted in the 10th rnd), and Auger (12th). Drafting is not an exact science, sometimes you draft a player high and he underperforms. But to qualify a player as a bust you need to give him time, icetime and a chance to prove himself before making such a statement. Even then, every players have different development curves. I totally understand your point and contracts can sometimes get in the way, but every high profile prospect have an agent and agents do what agents does: protect their "clients". Unfortunately or not, this is how it works. I don't know if you're trying to implicitly point out a situation this year or just in general, but I can tell you that some players should've played less and some players should've played more. There was some weird hockey decisions this year and I sure hope it will be better next year. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 3, 2024 12:57:26 GMT -4
One of the big issues I see is the hoopla that is given for those early round draft picks. In the end, it‘s a highly subjective decision. Many of these players have fancy decorated contracts with lots of conditions that have to be met, which complicates the job of the coaching staff. Imagine a 2nd round pick that ends up performing less than mediocre but who is not allowed to be scratched EVER. Now imagine half the roster having such conditions…. It is absolute BS IMO. If a player is highly ranked and esteemed, , there should be no need for fancy conditions. Let the free market rule!!! And if need be, they shall work their way up the ranks. Just look at Müller (was drafted in the 10th rnd), and Auger (12th). In theory that makes sense but if a team stopped drafting players who's parents/agents get heavily involved in the process and have "contracts", you would never have any elite talent on your roster, or very few...guys like Richards Drouin MacKinnon Crosby etc would be off your list. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 3, 2024 13:00:32 GMT -4
Drafting is not an exact science, sometimes you draft a player high and he underperforms. But to qualify a player as a bust you need to give him time, icetime and a chance to prove himself before making such a statement. Even then, every players have different development curves. I totally understand your point and contracts can sometimes get in the way, but every high profile prospect have an agent and agents do what agents does: protect their "clients". Unfortunately or not, this is how it works. I don't know if you're trying to implicitly point out a situation this year or just in general, but I can tell you that some players should've played less and some players should've played more. There was some weird hockey decisions this year and I sure hope it will be better next year. My reflection was meant in a general sense as this is how things operate across the league. I really like how you pointed out the fact that every player is on a different developmental/growth curve. This is something that we oftentimes forget and can make a huge difference at the Jr level, which brings me back to my initial point. It‘s a lot tougher for a late bloomer to prove himself, when he gets bottom ice time due to all the early round picks having priority. To be honest, I think this system is wrong. Mind you, I am not an expert in this matter, but neither are the „experts“ 😉 Good players generally rise to the top, no coach is trying to lose on purpose. Often fans have an agenda and think the coach is going against their guy when there are sometimes good reasons. Rookies are often held back in ice time because of the long season(practices travel and 8-9 months of hockey) because a lot of them burn out by late January if their games/minutes are not controlled. |
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 3, 2024 13:58:01 GMT -4
My reflection was meant in a general sense as this is how things operate across the league. I really like how you pointed out the fact that every player is on a different developmental/growth curve. This is something that we oftentimes forget and can make a huge difference at the Jr level, which brings me back to my initial point. It‘s a lot tougher for a late bloomer to prove himself, when he gets bottom ice time due to all the early round picks having priority. To be honest, I think this system is wrong. Mind you, I am not an expert in this matter, but neither are the „experts“ 😉 Good players generally rise to the top, no coach is trying to lose on purpose. Often fans have an agenda and think the coach is going against their guy when there are sometimes good reasons. Rookies are often held back in ice time because of the long season(practices travel and 8-9 months of hockey) because a lot of them burn out by late January if their games/minutes are not controlled. It's the playoffs. It's not time for load management. Carrier hops on the ice and makes things happen then doesn't see the ice again for 15 minutes. Fans have every right to be questioning the decisions. |
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Post by catzfans on Apr 3, 2024 14:48:40 GMT -4
My guess is, after the season Lacroix heads to Europe and RKI looks for a big name coach. Great but why did this season have to be thrown away? I’m not saying this was a championship team by any means but a run to the third round was a decent possibility. Why would an owner who supposedly “wants to win” do nothing when it was clearly obvious there was a fixable problem? Better be one hell of a coaching hire to make up for this season. Agreed. Must be nice being a 20 year old playing his last stretch of junior knowing that owners would rather wait to fix the issue. Sure, we might not have been a championship calibre team but putting up worse results from last season and not building of it is a shame. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 3, 2024 15:15:39 GMT -4
Great but why did this season have to be thrown away? I’m not saying this was a championship team by any means but a run to the third round was a decent possibility. Why would an owner who supposedly “wants to win” do nothing when it was clearly obvious there was a fixable problem? Better be one hell of a coaching hire to make up for this season. Agreed. Must be nice being a 20 year old playing his last stretch of junior knowing that owners would rather wait to fix the issue. Sure, we might not have been a championship calibre team but putting up worse results from last season and not building of it is a shame. Speaking of 20 year olds, the WC have not gotten much bang for their buck from their OA this series, a combined 2 points in 3 games is not getting it done. |
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Post by JustAnotherCatsFan on Apr 3, 2024 15:26:28 GMT -4
Don't usually comment on this page but honestly just show up for game 1 and 2 and see what happens, no need to be so negative lol. I have the cats in 7. Should be a good series regardless of the outcome. It's only junior hockey, literally anything can happen. Not to mention next year is gonna be that much better. Go cats go Are we allowed to be negative now? I think the word you were looking for is realistic. You go for it buddy. I still stand by my statements. At the end of the day it's still only junior hockey. Rock on. |
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Post by chootoi on Apr 3, 2024 16:39:13 GMT -4
I'm interested to see how game 4 goes. Do they come out with their best and fight for their playoff lives, or do they roll over and mail it in? It will be telling, because like it or not this is the team they're rolling with next year to chase a championship. What do they look like in the face of adversity with their backs against the wall?
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Post by yojoe on Apr 3, 2024 18:39:03 GMT -4
Has a team in the Q ever come back from being down 0 and 3?
Loshing on the second line again. Sigh....
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Apr 3, 2024 18:40:07 GMT -4
Has a team in the Q ever come back from being down 0 and 3? Loshing on the second line again. Sigh.... Yeah moose against Quebec with drouin and Mack at 16, idk about others |
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Post by JEagle on Apr 3, 2024 19:05:37 GMT -4
Has a team in the Q ever come back from being down 0 and 3? Loshing on the second line again. Sigh.... |
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Post by lirette on Apr 3, 2024 22:07:00 GMT -4
Can't help but wonder what this team may have looked like if they had kept Barbashev rather than trade him for spare parts and draft Glas who ends up a healthy scratch in the playoffs and unlikely to be part of any run next season.
Barbashev was the heart and soul of the team during the years coming out of covid and from the outside looking in didn't seem like the same player this year. He seemed happy playing in Moncton and have to wonder if he just never got comfortable anywhere else. Trenholm seems like a nice kid but seemed to plateau at 18 and just didn't add anything extra to this team this season.
The team should not be wasting any time announcing Lacroixs departure, the fans deserve some accountability from the organization from having to sit through back to back half assed 2nd halfs of the season. There is no reason it can't be announced in the next week or so.
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Post by xkarlsson65x on Apr 3, 2024 22:14:04 GMT -4
A lot of could be’s and what if’s but no point stressing over it right now, long summer ahead. I was expecting a series win and a loss against Halifax in round 2, just happened to get a well built and emphasis on much better coached Chicoutimi squad.
I’m guessing Lacroix is gone but overall I just hope it makes Ritchie rethink the make of our squad for next year. Might need to see a few more changes than expected.
Sad to see the 20’s and Mueller go.
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