MacAusland and Dimitruk

[MikeC]

penguins23 said:

billy said:

How could Samson have been so much better?

If he wasn't playing on a third line with 2 defensive forwards, Hepditch and Gaudet. He showed in Val D'or and a bit here last season what he could do when put into an offensive role.

And Marquardt played on the 4th line, despite now being a 40 goal scorer.
You had a deep team. Who would you have bumped down to the 3rd line to move Samson up?

[SteveUL]

penguins23 said:

billy said:

How could Samson have been so much better?

If he wasn't playing on a third line with 2 defensive forwards, Hepditch and Gaudet. He showed in Val D'or and a bit here last season what he could do when put into an offensive role.

I will agree that he would have likely put up more points had he been playing 2nd line ... but who do you take off line 2 to move him up ?

One of the things that made us very strong that year was a 3rd line that was excellent defensively and could score ... he was a big part of that. I wouldn't have wanted to change that line.

We lacked a bonafide 2nd line center ... if Samson was a center he might have been there ... but he wasn't.

[Penguins23®]

Oh no no I'm not saying it wasn't the right decision. Worked out great for us. Samson would of probably been drafted had he played on the top 2 lines. We're lucky Samson's a great guy and he never complained no matter what his role was. He ranks amongst my favorite Wildcats of all time for sure.

[Captain Obvious]

penguins23 said:

billy said:

How could Samson have been so much better?

If he wasn't playing on a third line with 2 defensive forwards, Hepditch and Gaudet. He showed in Val D'or and a bit here last season what he could do when put into an offensive role.

Who do you suggest would have been better in a defensive role? Pineault? Goulet? Karsums? Marchand? Having Samson there gave them a 3rd line that could shut down and still score big goals.

[Penguins23®]

billy said:

penguins23 said:

If he wasn't playing on a third line with 2 defensive forwards, Hepditch and Gaudet. He showed in Val D'or and a bit here last season what he could do when put into an offensive role.

Who do you suggest would have been better in a defensive role? Pineault? Goulet? Karsums? Marchand? Having Samson there gave them a 3rd line that could shut down and still score big goals.

Read the post about yours Fuckin Habs' fans.

[MikeC]

penguins23 said:

Oh no no I'm not saying it wasn't the right decision. Worked out great for us. Samson would of probably been drafted had he played on the top 2 lines. We're lucky Samson's a great guy and he never complained no matter what his role was. He ranks amongst my favorite Wildcats of all time for sure.

You said:
"Hopefully Flynn uses him properly and doesn't do like what happened to Samson."
Which implies that Samson was NOT used properly.

Now you're saying it was the right decision... kinda contradicting yourself.

[Penguins23®]

mikec said:

penguins23 said:

Oh no no I'm not saying it wasn't the right decision. Worked out great for us. Samson would of probably been drafted had he played on the top 2 lines. We're lucky Samson's a great guy and he never complained no matter what his role was. He ranks amongst my favorite Wildcats of all time for sure.

You said:
"Hopefully Flynn uses him properly and doesn't do like what happened to Samson."
Which implies that Samson was NOT used properly.

Now you're saying it was the right decision... kinda contradicting yourself.

What I ment was for Macausland's sake I hope he gets used better then Samson. He gave up NCAA to come here as he believes it's the best for him to get to the next level. Playing on the 3rd line isn't what's best for him.

[MikeC]

penguins23 said:

mikec said:

You said:
"Hopefully Flynn uses him properly and doesn't do like what happened to Samson."
Which implies that Samson was NOT used properly.

Now you're saying it was the right decision... kinda contradicting yourself.

What I ment was for Macausland's sake I hope he gets used better then Samson. He gave up NCAA to come here as he believes it's the best for him to get to the next level. Playing on the 3rd line isn't what's best for him.

How could Samson have been used better?

You say Samson would have been better IF he played more than on the 3rd line.
I say, IF Samson was better, he would have played more than on the 3rd line.

If MacAusland isn't good enough to play more than on the 3rd line in the Q, then it's likely it would have been the same in the NCAA.

[Penguins23®]

mikec said:

penguins23 said:

What I ment was for Macausland's sake I hope he gets used better then Samson. He gave up NCAA to come here as he believes it's the best for him to get to the next level. Playing on the 3rd line isn't what's best for him.

How could Samson have been used better?

You say Samson would have been better IF he played more than on the 3rd line.
I say, IF Samson was better, he would have played more than on the 3rd line.

If MacAusland isn't good enough to play more than on the 3rd line in the Q, then it's likely it would have been the same in the NCAA.

I don't think it will be a problem for Devon as we are not nearly as talented up front as we were in 05-06. On any other team Samson was on the top 2 lines, Quebec included.

[killer]

I thought Samson excelled in his roll especially during the league finals. Samson was dominate along the boards and his line cycled the puck very well down low killing crucial minutes off the clock

[buckybuckbuck]

mikec said:

penguins23 said:

What I ment was for Macausland's sake I hope he gets used better then Samson. He gave up NCAA to come here as he believes it's the best for him to get to the next level. Playing on the 3rd line isn't what's best for him.

How could Samson have been used better?

You say Samson would have been better IF he played more than on the 3rd line.
I say, IF Samson was better, he would have played more than on the 3rd line.

If MacAusland isn't good enough to play more than on the 3rd line in the Q, then it's likely it would have been the same in the NCAA.

Alright I'm goin to have to agree with Pens on this one. It wasn't that Samson was misused so much as he was used to play a specialized power kill position which he and the boys killed at. The end result is that he wasn't in the offensive eye of anyone and didn't get drafted to the amazement of everyone in Moncton. Last year you could tell he was out for points, played that style, lived up to everyone expectation and got a pretty good signing deal. I was always surprised that Nolan didn't go for him.

He didn't get misused, just used in a role that almost cost him a draft. So I guess you could say he was unfortunately misused.

[Optimus Reim]

If you look at the flip side of this arguement though he may be more of a complete player now. Where as before he already had the offensive skills. You are not drafted or signed on offensive skill alone.(Usually anyways). He developed his defensive and board play under Nolan. So maybe he really wasn't misused. Maybe he was used properly.

[Captain Obvious]

penguins23 said:

mikec said:

You said:
"Hopefully Flynn uses him properly and doesn't do like what happened to Samson."
Which implies that Samson was NOT used properly.

Now you're saying it was the right decision... kinda contradicting yourself.

What I ment was for Macausland's sake I hope he gets used better then Samson. He gave up NCAA to come here as he believes it's the best for him to get to the next level. Playing on the 3rd line isn't what's best for him.

Stop being a dumbass...Samson played like 17-18 minutes a game in 05-06 and improved his game greatly, his best year development-wise, how the hell is that misuse???

[hockey1981]

Speaking of Samson
I think it did him alot of good in 05-06 to be a 3rd line checker playing with veterans of Gaudet/Hepditch...
I think last yr, he was in better role and numbers were up, playing with more Offensive guys...I personally don't think you'll see himin Q this yr, I think he's AHl/ECHL bound