Marquardt in the AHL?

[curtis]

This link was post by "Alpine" over at the Hockey's Future boards:

www.capacadie.com/AcadieNouvelle/2007/8/14/Les_Wildcats_600.cfm

Anybody know the latest? I hadn't heard anything before this about the possibility of Marquardt not returning.

I think it would be too big of a jump, he's a guy who needs another year in the Q to improve. In my opinion, he didn't "bring it" every game.

[jimmy]

I saw that article this morning ... to me it isn't anything new, there has been speculation all summer as to whether or not Marquardt would be back in junior this fall, all this article does is repeat that speculation ... basically, it comes down to what kind of camp he has for Columbus ... if he has a good camp, they will probably sign him and send him to the AHL, if they feel he isn't ready, he will be back with the Cats.

[Dalkiel]

I can't see Marquart going higher than ECHL with his skating ability. He may start a year in the AHL put will quickly be weeded down to the ECHL. Goulet is a better player than Marquart IMO and he is stuck in the E.

[CatsFan]

My french isn't the greatest, but does he say that Columbus is letting him decide where he wants to play?

"Ils (la direction des Blue Jackets) m'ont dit que ça serait moi qui déciderais où j'allais jouer et que mon sort est entre mes mains", a noté le choix de septième ronde (194e) de Columbus au repêchage de 2006.

Maybe I misunderstood this.

Myself, I don't think he is ready for the AHL. Don't get me wrong, he's got the talent, he just lacks the consistency. I think he needs another year of junior.

[curtis]

My interpretation is that they are going to let his play decide things. I still think he needs another year here, Martino probably knows that as well as anyone.

[chsb]

Marquardt dominates the Q physically with his play....therefore he is ready to play against men and no doubt that he would develop faster in the AHL than in the Q where basically he would waste his time.
I have said all along that I expected him to go pro.

[curtis]

chsb, I don't know which Marquardt you're watching, but I see a guy who still hasn't figured out how to properly use his size. For a guy his size, he doesn't throw many hits, and his lack of speed is a defensive liability at this point. He needs another year of coaching, and oodles of ice time.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Marquardt (and I REALLY want him back with the Cats), but players of his type generally take a bit longer to develop. He isn't quite there yet.

[buckybuckbuck]

Your both right about him needing to develop longer but I think chsb is correct that he can do that in the AHL better and faster than here. He's been here two years with the best coaches in the Q, another year might be ok but it would be accelerated in the AHL. In AHL if he's making a mistake than he will pay for each time. In the Q his mistakes are covered up by other's mistakes so he wouldn't learn from them.

[chsb]

He reminds me a lot of Jonathan Ferland who graduated AHL at 20 YO....not in the bodycheck department but in all other aspects of puck control along the boards and into the slot area....Ferland was not the fastest skater either.

With the new rules implemented, it is becoming more and more difficult for defensemen to counter these types of big players and no doubt that he will receive a lot of attention at the AHL camp.

[SteveUL]

chsb said:

He reminds me a lot of Jonathan Ferland who graduated AHL at 20 YO....not in the bodycheck department but in all other aspects of puck control along the boards and into the slot area....Ferland was not the fastest skater either.

With the new rules implemented, it is becoming more and more difficult for defensemen to counter these types of big players and no doubt that he will receive a lot of attention at the AHL camp.

Columbus has another year before they have to sign him ... and if there is any doubt on whether or not he is ready for the next level the obvious move is to send him back to Jr unsigned. There certainly is doubt on whether or not he is ready for the next level ... might as well hold off starting up a contract with him for another season.

Chsb ... I will bet you one beer that Marquardt is returned to the Q before the Columbus AHL affiliate (Syracuse ?) regular season begins.

Marquardt has two problems ... attitude and conditioning. He needs to spend a year as a team leader where he is a role model for the younger players and he himself takes that role seriously. Last year he was not a leader ... he had Gaudet, MacDonald, Welton, Samson, Morehouse and a short stint with Bourdon as the team leaders ... he was just a passenger that could score ... and he was a passenger far too many nights ... especially from March 1st onward when we needed him most.

Was Ferland drafted before his 18 YO season or his 19 YO season ? Marquardt was drafted before his 19 YO season because he didn't play Major Jr until he was 18 ... and so he can go unsigned as a 20 YO without Columbus losing his rights.

[IslandersHKY]

steveul said:

chsb said:

He reminds me a lot of Jonathan Ferland who graduated AHL at 20 YO....not in the bodycheck department but in all other aspects of puck control along the boards and into the slot area....Ferland was not the fastest skater either.

With the new rules implemented, it is becoming more and more difficult for defensemen to counter these types of big players and no doubt that he will receive a lot of attention at the AHL camp.

Columbus has another year before they have to sign him ... and if there is any doubt on whether or not he is ready for the next level the obvious move is to send him back to Jr unsigned. There certainly is doubt on whether or not he is ready for the next level ... might as well hold off starting up a contract with him for another season.

Chsb ... I will bet you one beer that Marquardt is returned to the Q before the Columbus AHL affiliate (Syracuse ?) regular season begins.

Marquardt has two problems ... attitude and conditioning. He needs to spend a year as a team leader where he is a role model for the younger players and he himself takes that role seriously. Last year he was not a leader ... he had Gaudet, MacDonald, Welton, Samson, Morehouse and a short stint with Bourdon as the team leaders ... he was just a passenger that could score ... and he was a passenger far too many nights ... especially from March 1st onward when we needed him most.

I agree with Steve in this case as Mardquart reminds me a lot of Walker in that respect.

IMO Walker without a doubt has the skill to play in the AHL but he is a similar player to Mardquart and I think having one additional year in the Q as one of the top players would help both of their development immensely.

As Steve said if conditioning and work ethic (or attitude) are the areas which need improvement they can be worked on in the Q with the motivation of making the AHL next season. If that isn't enough motivation for them to work their ass off all year to consistently play to their potential and be one of the top players in the league then they shouldn't be pro players to begin with.

My expectation is that both will play in the Q this season and both with be among the leaders in goals and among the top point getters.

[Dalkiel]

I'm sure he'll be here till xmas, then gets traded. There is no sense in having him on a rebuilding team for the whole year. Unless he worked with a figure skater the whole summer then he will NOT be in the AHL, he's simply not ready.

[SteveUL]

hockeyfan99 said:

steveul said:

Columbus has another year before they have to sign him ... and if there is any doubt on whether or not he is ready for the next level the obvious move is to send him back to Jr unsigned. There certainly is doubt on whether or not he is ready for the next level ... might as well hold off starting up a contract with him for another season.

Chsb ... I will bet you one beer that Marquardt is returned to the Q before the Columbus AHL affiliate (Syracuse ?) regular season begins.

Marquardt has two problems ... attitude and conditioning. He needs to spend a year as a team leader where he is a role model for the younger players and he himself takes that role seriously. Last year he was not a leader ... he had Gaudet, MacDonald, Welton, Samson, Morehouse and a short stint with Bourdon as the team leaders ... he was just a passenger that could score ... and he was a passenger far too many nights ... especially from March 1st onward when we needed him most.

I agree with Steve in this case as Mardquart reminds me a lot of Walker in that respect.

IMO Walker without a doubt has the skill to play in the AHL but he is a similar player to Mardquart and I think having one additional year in the Q as one of the top players would help both of their development immensely.

As Steve said if conditioning and work ethic (or attitude) are the areas which need improvement they can be worked on in the Q with the motivation of making the AHL next season. If that isn't enough motivation for them to work their ass off all year to consistently play to their potential and be one of the top players in the league then they shouldn't be pro players to begin with.

My expectation is that both will play in the Q this season and both with be among the leaders in goals and among the top point getters.

I think he and Walker are a very good comparison ... loads of talent but don't yet seem to have the will to put it altogether on a regular basis. Walker always plays well vs Moncton it seems ... but the rivalry is probably the motivation.

[buckybuckbuck]

Why would we be trading Marguardt in a year that we are going for the Mem Cup

[digitalman]

dalkiel said:

I'm sure he'll be here till xmas, then gets traded. There is no sense in having him on a rebuilding team for the whole year. Unless he worked with a figure skater the whole summer then he will NOT be in the AHL, he's simply not ready.

I don't see why you see the cats as a rebuilding team. I see them as much better than last year although their record probably won't be as good due to a tougher division. Unless Marquardt can get a great return, I'd keep him cause he could help the cats go an extra playoff round and give that much more experience to the 17 and 18 yr olds for the "big season" in 08-09. I guess we'll have to wait and see where we are at christmas.