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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Sept 23, 2007 21:50:09 GMT -4
Hmm I was 20 feet away and you were in Cole Harbour? Show me where I said I saw the fight. If you read my post, you can tell I was looking for a credible recap of it, and since you cannot provide it, I will wait for someone else to. Either that, or I can catch it on telus when they archive it. From 20 feet away you certainly had a hard time reading the name on the back of the Cat player's jersey. Bodnarchuk seemed in control through most of it, but there was a few straight punches at him that on webcast looked good, but Bodnarchuk didnt even react like they hit him, so I'd think they were coming up short... one shot when Bodnarchuk was near/against the glass looked good and got a reaction from the crowd but there was hardly a flinch from Bodnarchuk. Then I didnt see/notice how, but suddenly MacLellan went down hard and Bodnarchuk was still standing... not sure if it was a punch, or a missed punch (as Steve said). MacLellan was busier, and LOOKED to throw some nice ones, but given the fact Bodnarchuk hardly reacted to the punches makes me think they were just grazing/touching him at best. As you said, its not Rocky.
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Post by sec21critic on Sept 23, 2007 21:55:09 GMT -4
a) All people arguing about the inconsequential fight can go away... unless you want to mention the fact that McLellan got Bodnarchuk off the ice for an additional five minutes... that was the best part of the whole sequence.
b) There WAS time left on the clock... as the puck crossed the line I IMMEDIATELY glanced over to the clock and saw it run down from 0.2 to 0.1 to 0.0. The puck probably crossed the line with 0.3 seconds but the people manning the clock did not stop it in time, which is understandable given where they sit and general reaction time.
c) Neither of the first two Moose goals were weak, IMO. First was a sweet wrister from Knotek... second was a rebound by Hillier that was as much the fault of the Cats getting caught flat footed than anything. Worst goalie out there today was Lavigne, IMO... when it went to a shootout, I knew we were toast. I liked what I saw of Lavigne in pre-season... and he will probably end up having about as successful a season as a backup on a upper-lower-mid pack team should have... but the way he was reacting to some shots was not pretty today.
Also of note.... that might've been the best all-around game I have ever seen Phil Mangan play. He was efficient in all three zones and played the puck with authority more often than not (Moncton D, take notice). If he continues down this route, he could be a decent "lead by example" sort of captain.
It's always nice to come back to steal a point (and I emphasize the word steal)... but continually coming from behind (this is the fourth straight game in which we've faced a defecit) is not a good way to play... and although it can be entertaining (as the first two home games have been) it's a gamble... and eventually, the team will do one of two things: consistantly play with a lead (think the second half of the 97-98 season)... or they will simply fall behind and NOT come back (see second half of 06-07 season). I'm hoping for the former.... but leery of the latter.
Of course, this is after four regular season games.... we're not even out of September yet... so it's a ton of speculation at this point as to what this team will do. At the end of the day, the team has come out of every game thus far with at least one point. Like last season, best to start stockpiling the points early... having a cushion in the second half to fall back on just in case is never a bad idea.
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Post by senators19 on Sept 23, 2007 21:57:17 GMT -4
Hmm I was 20 feet away and you were in Cole Harbour? Show me where I said I saw the fight. If you read my post, you can tell I was looking for a credible recap of it, and since you cannot provide it, I will wait for someone else to. Either that, or I can catch it on telus when they archive it. From 20 feet away you certainly had a hard time reading the name on the back of the Cat player's jersey. That fight was right in front of us in section 18. I saw Bodnarchuk grab MacLellan and give him a shove. MacLellan shoved back and then Bodnarchuk started yapping and MacLellan started throwing. Bodnarchuk looked like he could not beleive it and MacLellan hit him at least 6 times right on the jaw. Bodnarchuk finally ducked and MacLellan missed and his follow through caused him to lose his balance and they fell on top of each other.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Sept 23, 2007 22:07:21 GMT -4
Show me where I said I saw the fight. If you read my post, you can tell I was looking for a credible recap of it, and since you cannot provide it, I will wait for someone else to. Either that, or I can catch it on telus when they archive it. From 20 feet away you certainly had a hard time reading the name on the back of the Cat player's jersey. That fight was right in front of us in section 18. I saw Bodnarchuk grab MacLellan and give him a shove. MacLellan shoved back and then Bodnarchuk started yapping and MacLellan started throwing. Bodnarchuk looked like he could not beleive it and MacLellan hit him at least 6 times right on the jaw. Bodnarchuk finally ducked and MacLellan missed and his follow through caused him to lose his balance and they fell on top of each other. Nope nope your wrong I better wait for someone from Halifax to tell me how the fight went.
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Post by Midnite on Sept 23, 2007 22:51:48 GMT -4
That fight was right in front of us in section 18. I saw Bodnarchuk grab MacLellan and give him a shove. MacLellan shoved back and then Bodnarchuk started yapping and MacLellan started throwing. Bodnarchuk looked like he could not beleive it and MacLellan hit him at least 6 times right on the jaw. Bodnarchuk finally ducked and MacLellan missed and his follow through caused him to lose his balance and they fell on top of each other. Nope nope your wrong I better wait for someone from Halifax to tell me how the fight went. What does it matter where they are at.... as fast as it all happened whether you're there 20ft away or someone is in Hong Kong watching it online it ain't much different. You didn't even know which one of your own players was fighting sitting 20ft away... good enough reason for them to question your recap.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Sept 23, 2007 23:19:08 GMT -4
Nope nope your wrong I better wait for someone from Halifax to tell me how the fight went. What does it matter where they are at.... as fast as it all happened whether you're there 20ft away or someone is in Hong Kong watching it online it ain't much different. You didn't even know which one of your own players was fighting sitting 20ft away... good enough reason for them to question your recap. I was too busy watching Bondrachuk get his ass kicked. I'm the guy who roared "how's your jaw Girlfriend" at him as he skated by.
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Post by Midnite on Sept 24, 2007 0:45:37 GMT -4
What does it matter where they are at.... as fast as it all happened whether you're there 20ft away or someone is in Hong Kong watching it online it ain't much different. You didn't even know which one of your own players was fighting sitting 20ft away... good enough reason for them to question your recap. I was too busy watching Bondrachuk get his ass kicked. I'm the guy who roared "how's your jaw Girlfriend" at him as he skated by. wow.... you just confirmed why it's a waste of time discussing this with you... at least you're getting a little bit closer to getting his name right. "How's you're jaw girlfriend"....too funny
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Post by Penguins23® on Sept 24, 2007 5:00:25 GMT -4
a) All people arguing about the inconsequential fight can go away... unless you want to mention the fact that McLellan got Bodnarchuk off the ice for an additional five minutes... that was the best part of the whole sequence. Seven minutes, not five. Anyone know why Bodnarchuck got an instigator when Murdock skated 25 feet at full speed from once side of the ice to the other to go fight him after his hit. That still has me scratching my head
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Post by brec7 on Sept 24, 2007 5:29:18 GMT -4
Because Bodnarchuk started the fight. There was no "consent" to go, Bodnarchuck just dropped his gloves and started throwing punches. (For what it's worth I thought MacLellan won the fight! )
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Post by sec21critic on Sept 24, 2007 5:33:46 GMT -4
a) All people arguing about the inconsequential fight can go away... unless you want to mention the fact that McLellan got Bodnarchuk off the ice for an additional five minutes... that was the best part of the whole sequence. Seven minutes, not five. Anyone know why Bodnarchuck got an instigator when Murdock skated 25 feet at full speed from once side of the ice to the other to go fight him after his hit. That still has me scratching my head I figure the refs missed the hit from behind that started the whole sequence... and giving Bodnarchuk the instigator penalty was a makeup call. I mean, that hit DID "instigate" the events immediately afterwards even though McLallan easily had his gloves off first. That's kind of my I said five instead of seven to begin with... I just looked at the two for instigating as if it were the two for checking from behind he should've had to begin with.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 24, 2007 6:57:43 GMT -4
Well, I thought it was a good game for the most part. It was entertaining.. because it went from Moncton not even being in it, to tieing the game with one second left on the clock. ( Speaking of which .. we're some lucky on that goal .. it's a good thing our goal judge on that end was quick with the red light, because with those lights, soon as the clock is at 0, a blue light comes on and you can't turn on the red light. So if the goal judge would've pressed it a second later, no goal. ) Our goalies didn't look too good. Riopel didn't last long after allowing 3 week goals, the third being the worst. ( I'm still not sold on him ! ) and Lavigne came in and he wasn't too bad. I cringed everytime Halifax took a shot or got near him. I thought our D were a little frustrating to watch at times, but I thought Wilson had a good game.. he blocked some shots, made some good plays. Barberio was decent.. geez, I wish that kid would shoot more. Marquardt was great tonight.. glad to see him back. The first goal he scored was something else. Bad angle shot and the fact he was able to keep control of the puck. All in all, I'll take the point, because we were lucky to get it. We have been having slow starts and that's gotta be addressed. 4 games in. We've gotten 6 out of a possible 8 points and we still haven't lost in regulation. Taking 3 out of 4 from Halifax this weekend wasn't something I expected, but I'll take it. I just don't put a lot into it as they are missing some key guys. You must have been watching a different game if you blame Rio for those goals. The Cats were dominated and completely on their heels, he had little chance on the goals and in fact made a few nice stops or it could have been 5-0 by mid 1st. The team woke up after the switch and scored right after.
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Post by curtis on Sept 24, 2007 7:11:49 GMT -4
I think the goalie switch was more to send a message to the team than to Riopel in particular, as Carey Price pointed out, Riopel was in a tough situation to start the game. I wish I had a better vantage point on those early goals.
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Post by crashthenet on Sept 24, 2007 9:08:56 GMT -4
Only the third goal was a weak one. IMO Lavigne should have started the game anyway. We have a ton of games this week and Charles should be playing every third fourth or fifth game .
Otherwise, Riopel will be overworked come the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2007 9:16:13 GMT -4
I always said Riopel was highly overrated... guess I was right from what I read on here.
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Post by curtis on Sept 24, 2007 9:22:14 GMT -4
I always said Riopel was highly overrated... guess I was right from what I read on here. Yeah, we'll just ignore the fact he had a solid rookie season last year.
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