Halifax @ Moncton - 09/23

[SteveUL]

penguins23 said:

steveul said:

The goal judge's reaction time has no bearing on anything ... they check the video ... and the Ref's decision is all that matters ... goal judges are only there now as part of tradition.

Me and Make15 were talking about it and neither of us think the QMJHL has the "clock review" technology where the clock appears on the replay for the Official upstairs' use. I think the goal judge's reflexes there benefited us but I don't know what technology they have for replay reviews, makes me wonder what the heck they went upstairs for.

Are you saying if we have a slow goal judge then the goal won't count ? Better get rid of those guys that have been goal judges since the AHL days then ...

The goal counts if the puck crosses the line before the buzzer ... it has nothing to do with whether or not the goal light went on.

I think they have a clock in the video replay ... just no sound ... so you can't check to see if a puck crossed the line before a whistle ... but you can check to see if it crosses the line before the clock hits 0:00. They had to go to the video review to check to see how much time to put on the clock for the final faceoff.

[Captain Obvious]

hipsterdoofus said:

I always said Riopel was highly overrated... guess I was right from what I read on here.

How is he highly overrated? They have 6 points in 4 games starting the season with 2 years of experience on defense, goaltending has been a strength. How does that make him overrated?

I think it's just more of your pathetic obsession with a 17 year old kid.

[catnut]

For those who want to keep arguing about the fight, you can see it in the archives. It's a little bit after the 2:09:00 mark. MacLellan pops in a couple of good ones in there, including one that makes Bodnarchuk hit his head against the glass. Bodnarchuk came back in the end though. Nasty hit from behind that started it all.

[canbeer]

So MacLellan didn't slip

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curtis said:

hipsterdoofus said:

I always said Riopel was highly overrated... guess I was right from what I read on here.

Yeah, we'll just ignore the fact he had a solid rookie season last year.

Don't forget the fact that he blew it in the playoffs

[ballzz]

catnut said:

For those who want to keep arguing about the fight, you can see it in the archives. It's a little bit after the 2:09:00 mark. MacLellan pops in a couple of good ones in there, including one that makes Bodnarchuk hit his head against the glass. Bodnarchuk came back in the end though. Nasty hit from behind that started it all.

Thank god for the archives. At least all the teams in the Q now know that there is nothing to fear in Moncton. In 2 clear wins by the Moncton players, the Halifax players walked/skated away without a scratch, stumble, or anything that would cause fear.

To all the Moncton players, keep throwing those pillows.

[buckybuckbuck]

ballzz said:

catnut said:

For those who want to keep arguing about the fight, you can see it in the archives. It's a little bit after the 2:09:00 mark. MacLellan pops in a couple of good ones in there, including one that makes Bodnarchuk hit his head against the glass. Bodnarchuk came back in the end though. Nasty hit from behind that started it all.

Thank god for the archives. At least all the teams in the Q now know that there is nothing to fear in Moncton. In 2 clear wins by the Moncton players, the Halifax players walked/skated away without a scratch, stumble, or anything that would cause fear.

To all the Moncton players, keep throwing those pillows.

I'll say again what I said in the first place: Bondracuk has a strong jaw and could definitely take a punch. He took some of the first 4 that were square and his neck flinched but it never slowed him down a bit. He didn't land any but "he" can take a punch. Miss Swan that's another story.

[mboyan]

penguins23 said:

Me and Make15 were talking about it and neither of us think the QMJHL has the "clock review" technology where the clock appears on the replay for the Official upstairs' use. I think the goal judge's reflexes there benefited us but I don't know what technology they have for replay reviews, makes me wonder what the heck they went upstairs for.

I think you might be wrong. That exact scenarion happened in the PEI\Sea Dog game last Sunday. Doyle scored as the period ended. the green light came on before the goal light. After reviewing the play, the goal counted.

[gongshow]

brec7 said:

Because Bodnarchuk started the fight. There was no "consent" to go, Bodnarchuck just dropped his gloves and started throwing punches. (For what it's worth I thought MacLellan won the fight! )

Usually when a guy skates across the rink at full tilt towards a guy who just bumped a player from behind its for a reason.......Bodnarchuk took the approach that he wasn't gonna let himself get jumped and started throwing as soon as Maclellan came in.....he didn't start throwing at a guy who didn't want to fight.

No way in hell that's an instigator....but it was pretty obvious the zebras wanted to keep the game close...they proved that by awarding Mctn with 5 consecutive pp's once Hfx took a 3-0 lead.

[Optimus Reim]

gongshow said:

brec7 said:

Because Bodnarchuk started the fight. There was no "consent" to go, Bodnarchuck just dropped his gloves and started throwing punches. (For what it's worth I thought MacLellan won the fight! )

Usually when a guy skates across the rink at full tilt towards a guy who just bumped a player from behind its for a reason.......Bodnarchuk took the approach that he wasn't gonna let himself get jumped and started throwing as soon as Maclellan came in.....he didn't start throwing at a guy who didn't want to fight.

No way in hell that's an instigator....but it was pretty obvious the zebras wanted to keep the game close...they proved that by awarding Mctn with 5 consecutive pp's once Hfx took a 3-0 lead.

I personally think that the instigator call was for the hit from behind that they let go.

[Gooch]

ace said:

gongshow said:

I personally think that the instigator call was for the hit from behind that they let go.

And that bothers me. If you don't call something (and there were no arms up after the hit) then its dead in the water. You can't just "make up" a penalty because you blew the first one. Reminds me of the commercial for the football ref...I royally screwed that call but don't worry I'll penalize the other team in the second half for no good reason.
the penalties for that should have been 2 for boarding and 5 for fighting for Bod and then 2 for instigation and 5 for fighting for Mclellan. I think this shows exactly why fans get so frustrated with the refs. Call the original penalty when it happens...don't make up for it with a stupid call. We can tell when you do that.


Rant over

[sec21critic]

gooch said:

ace said:

I personally think that the instigator call was for the hit from behind that they let go.

And that bothers me. If you don't call something (and there were no arms up after the hit) then its dead in the water. You can't just "make up" a penalty because you blew the first one. Reminds me of the commercial for the football ref...I royally screwed that call but don't worry I'll penalize the other team in the second half for no good reason.
the penalties for that should have been 2 for boarding and 5 for fighting for Bod and then 2 for instigation and 5 for fighting for Mclellan. I think this shows exactly why fans get so frustrated with the refs. Call the original penalty when it happens...don't make up for it with a stupid call. We can tell when you do that.


Rant over

Exactly what I said as it happened yesterday.

[t-dude]

steveul said:

They had to go to the video review to check to see how much time to put on the clock for the final faceoff.

I wasn't really paying attention (I was sitting next to the Halifax fans in Sec. 30 and I was busy taunting them a bit ) but did they even bother trying to draw for it? From what I kinda saw they just dropped the puck as a formality.

[CatsFan]

truckerdude said:

steveul said:

They had to go to the video review to check to see how much time to put on the clock for the final faceoff.

I wasn't really paying attention (I was sitting next to the Halifax fans in Sec. 30 and I was busy taunting them a bit ) but did they even bother trying to draw for it? From what I kinda saw they just dropped the puck as a formality.

Well they had the faceoff, but yea more or less it was just a formality, as nothing's going to develop with one second.

[Penguins23®]

mboyan said:

penguins23 said:

Me and Make15 were talking about it and neither of us think the QMJHL has the "clock review" technology where the clock appears on the replay for the Official upstairs' use. I think the goal judge's reflexes there benefited us but I don't know what technology they have for replay reviews, makes me wonder what the heck they went upstairs for.

I think you might be wrong. That exact scenarion happened in the PEI\Sea Dog game last Sunday. Doyle scored as the period ended. the green light came on before the goal light. After reviewing the play, the goal counted.

Actually I must be wrong because Neil Hodge mentioned the exact time left on the clock.

As for the goal judge think to SteveUL, goal judges now are just a decoration really, the NHL is already getting rid of their opinion they just have to turn on the light when given the signal. I thought the goal judge's quickness may have helped us but I wasn't aware the Q had the clock video.

Also, no one mentioned this but boy thank god they spent 10 minutes trying to set up that useless faceoff with 1.0 seconds left in the third. I actually said they're technically suppose to have a faceoff and they didn't so I figured they were just gonna forget about it...not confuse themselves for 10 minutes, have the intermission and then take the faceoff.