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Post by MatumboGoldberg on Sept 24, 2007 14:01:24 GMT -4
Morehouse over Lincourt..I mean, gimme a break, I know he's a fan favorite and such, and he do occasionally dish some big ones..but it's not the job of a 20y old. It's the job of a 18-19y old. 20y old's are there to score, or to defend..not to do some forechecking. Lincourt's shot would have been helpful to PP last night. That was awful PP..Hali was playing an agressive PK on whoever had the puck so just have to pass the puck around quick to make them lose their position and then BANG! big shot or pass and a good scoring opportunity is there.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Sept 24, 2007 14:40:17 GMT -4
Morehouse over Lincourt..I mean, gimme a break, I know he's a fan favorite and such, and he do occasionally dish some big ones..but it's not the job of a 20y old. It's the job of a 18-19y old. 20y old's are there to score, or to defend..not to do some forechecking. Lincourt's shot would have been helpful to PP last night. That was awful PP..Hali was playing an agressive PK on whoever had the puck so just have to pass the puck around quick to make them lose their position and then BANG! big shot or pass and a good scoring opportunity is there. Heaaaayyyy Fargetaboutittttttt Sopranos.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 24, 2007 15:14:17 GMT -4
Morehouse over Lincourt..I mean, gimme a break, I know he's a fan favorite and such, and he do occasionally dish some big ones..but it's not the job of a 20y old. It's the job of a 18-19y old. 20y old's are there to score, or to defend..not to do some forechecking. Lincourt's shot would have been helpful to PP last night. That was awful PP..Hali was playing an agressive PK on whoever had the puck so just have to pass the puck around quick to make them lose their position and then BANG! big shot or pass and a good scoring opportunity is there. You might have an argument if Lincourt actually did something or played like he cared. I'd drop Morehouse if they had a 20 year old d-man with decent size to play against the opposition top line.
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Post by MatumboGoldberg on Sept 24, 2007 15:18:49 GMT -4
Morehouse over Lincourt..I mean, gimme a break, I know he's a fan favorite and such, and he do occasionally dish some big ones..but it's not the job of a 20y old. It's the job of a 18-19y old. 20y old's are there to score, or to defend..not to do some forechecking. Lincourt's shot would have been helpful to PP last night. That was awful PP..Hali was playing an agressive PK on whoever had the puck so just have to pass the puck around quick to make them lose their position and then BANG! big shot or pass and a good scoring opportunity is there. Heaaaayyyy Fargetaboutittttttt Sopranos. Watch it, I might make a certain phone call...
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bikerboy
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Post by bikerboy on Sept 24, 2007 15:53:24 GMT -4
nobody likes to keep a grinding sparck plug ...... mmmmm mainiacs did last year there fighthers a 20 yo , what the point , mourehouse is more in the play and hits and inyour face player , lincourt is in and out sometime you don t even see him .
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Post by MatumboGoldberg on Sept 24, 2007 15:57:48 GMT -4
Indeed..but youre missing firepower in front..Marquardt can't do everything alone. Look at last night, dominant! He might be more in the play but he doesn't know what to do except to hit..can't make a pass to save his life.
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Post by Optimus Reim on Sept 24, 2007 16:10:01 GMT -4
I really don't think we are missing that much firepower. Marqhardt, Mangan, Eagles, Cameron and Lessard are all showing that they can play. I also think that Sill and Brannon are going to get their chances too. You can't teach the determination or "intangibles" than Moorehouse brings. Now if we just had a good PP to take advantage of it.
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Post by Sébastien on Sept 24, 2007 16:28:09 GMT -4
Morehouse over Lincourt..I mean, gimme a break, I know he's a fan favorite and such, and he do occasionally dish some big ones..but it's not the job of a 20y old. It's the job of a 18-19y old. 20y old's are there to score, or to defend..not to do some forechecking. Lincourt's shot would have been helpful to PP last night. That was awful PP..Hali was playing an agressive PK on whoever had the puck so just have to pass the puck around quick to make them lose their position and then BANG! big shot or pass and a good scoring opportunity is there. You knew I was bound to answer didn't you. Seriously though, I would want you to remember the home opener in Bathurst. How many times did we hear Lincourt's name? Not many. I know we keep saying how he would be a very nice addition to the Wildcats' powerplay playing on the high slot with his stick at the ready, but the truth is that 5 on 5, he can't do anything. He doesn't use his linemates all that well, has difficulty going around someone 1 on 1 and does not have the size or the strength to get the puck out of the corner. Personally, I don't buy all this "Morehouse brings intangibles to the team". He's mainly there because he's the 3rd best 20yo that we had. If you consider his limited offensive abilities, his pestyness, how he can get the crowd going, he's much better then a Lincourt who gives you nothing but headaches. If Lincourt plays like he did last playoffs or even during the exhibition games, I give him the 3rd 20 role. But he lost it. And also, how do you cut a guy who's president of the team's kids fanclub and got a organization to get season tickets to distribute to kids who deserve to go watch a game? And really, you know how hopefull we can become when Morehouse is on the ice that something entertaining is going to happen! ;D
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Post by Optimus Reim on Sept 24, 2007 16:30:58 GMT -4
"And really, you know how hopefull we can become when Morehouse is on the ice that something entertaining is going to happen!" Those are a few of the "intangibles .
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Post by MatumboGoldberg on Sept 24, 2007 16:39:27 GMT -4
Morehouse over Lincourt..I mean, gimme a break, I know he's a fan favorite and such, and he do occasionally dish some big ones..but it's not the job of a 20y old. It's the job of a 18-19y old. 20y old's are there to score, or to defend..not to do some forechecking. Lincourt's shot would have been helpful to PP last night. That was awful PP..Hali was playing an agressive PK on whoever had the puck so just have to pass the puck around quick to make them lose their position and then BANG! big shot or pass and a good scoring opportunity is there. You knew I was bound to answer didn't you. Seriously though, I would want you to remember the home opener in Bathurst. How many times did we hear Lincourt's name? Not many. I know we keep saying how he would be a very nice addition to the Wildcats' powerplay playing on the high slot with his stick at the ready, but the truth is that 5 on 5, he can't do anything. He doesn't use his linemates all that well, has difficulty going around someone 1 on 1 and does not have the size or the strength to get the puck out of the corner. Personally, I don't buy all this "Morehouse brings intangibles to the team". He's mainly there because he's the 3rd best 20yo that we had. If you consider his limited offensive abilities, his pestyness, how he can get the crowd going, he's much better then a Lincourt who gives you nothing but headaches. If Lincourt plays like he did last playoffs or even during the exhibition games, I give him the 3rd 20 role. But he lost it. And also, how do you cut a guy who's president of the team's kids fanclub and got a organization to get season tickets to distribute to kids who deserve to go watch a game? And really, you know how hopefull we can become when Morehouse is on the ice that something entertaining is going to happen! ;D I was wondering when you were going to respond! ;D What I'm basically saying, why keep a guy who generates "excitement", "bone crunching hits" when you really need offense. I know Lincourt aint the guy who gives a 100% every match but his 50% per match is way better then Morehouse's headhunting.
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Post by Sébastien on Sept 24, 2007 16:40:05 GMT -4
"And really, you know how hopefull we can become when Morehouse is on the ice that something entertaining is going to happen!" Those are a few of the "intangibles . I agree! That's why I like to see him on the ice. But I would not mind having either a good 20 yo defenseman in his place. I think Richard in Val-d'Or is 20. If I had to pick for the team between Richard and Morehouse, I don't even think it's a question.
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Post by Optimus Reim on Sept 24, 2007 16:42:56 GMT -4
And I agree with youre assesment but we do not really have those as options at this moment. I think that Flynn really wants to restock the draft picks that we have given away the last three years.
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Post by sec21critic on Sept 24, 2007 17:25:54 GMT -4
Indeed..but youre missing firepower in front..Marquardt can't do everything alone. Look at last night, dominant! He might be more in the play but he doesn't know what to do except to hit..can't make a pass to save his life. - Of course Marquardt can't do it on his own... that's why Magnan (who IMO had just as good all around game yesterday), Eagles, Cameron et al are around to offset that load. The Cats have two decent lines that can score... now mind you, they are far from superstars... but when they work hard they will keep the team in almost every game they play. Marquardt always gets more notice because he's flashier when he wants to be... but Magnan and Eagles in particular have been consitant threats early on as well. - Chris Morehouse can hit (kind of... sometimes it looks like his limbs are going to rip from his body when he really throws his weight into it but I digress)... but he's also one of the very best players along the boards... he's no Samson.... but he's amoungst the best on this year's team in that regard. - Why are people still talking about Lincourt... The Cats traded for him (overpaid) he gave not even a half assed effort most of the time.... and when he DID give some effort, I know myself I got even MORE frustrated at him because it just went to show what he WAS capable of doing ( and not doing). I don't care if this is a rebuilding year, a go for it year or an in between sort of year... when you give the absolute lack of effort Maxime Lincourt gave through most of his career with the Cats, there is no spot on the roster for him.
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mik
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Post by mik on Sept 24, 2007 17:55:42 GMT -4
Lincourt's lack of intensity is not what we need. Morehouse is a better example. And its not our decision.
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Post by CatsFan on Sept 24, 2007 18:33:40 GMT -4
Well I can kinda see what you're saying about the offence, but when you look at the pro's and con's for both Lincourt and Morehouse, Morehouse is just the obvious choice. Lincourt could, at times.. play hard, but the games of seeing that were few and far between. Lincourt has no heart. The biggest reason for Lincourt's demise.. when he came to him playing for a spot on the team, he wanted no part in it. I don't find he was all that impressive in camp, IMO. He played like he didn't care if he made the team or not. I like Morehouse. He's definitely not the most talented player out there, but when he's on the ice.. he gives you 110%. He takes a few too many penalties sometimes. But Morehouse is good along the boards and does make some offensive chances with his hard work, although he's not offensively gifted. The kids got heart and gives 110% and that's all you can ask from a 20 year old, and if you can't give that, then you don't deserve to be here.
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