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Post by catnut on Oct 18, 2007 14:48:59 GMT -4
At the time also, few people thought Graham and, to a certain extent, Saunders would make the jump, and Bourque had declared in the papers that he was coming here.
In the end, the expansion draft hurt almost as much as the building the Memorial Cup contender itself.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Oct 18, 2007 15:04:22 GMT -4
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bondrachuck sit the whole previous year as apposed to playing for us? If that was the case than the chances of him going NCAA would have been made the year previously. I always thought he wanted to play for Halifax and he would sit as long as it took. Certainly he could have played for us in the MemCup but I guess that wasn't important to him.  If we had of traded him to Halifax for Churchill before the summer trade deadline that and solved the Goaltending issue we had sooner and not have cost us Blanchard....... Ah hindsight. I admit I have no idea the behind the scenes stuff that was probably going on. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Oct 18, 2007 19:21:24 GMT -4
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bondrachuck sit the whole previous year as apposed to playing for us? If that was the case than the chances of him going NCAA would have been made the year previously. I always thought he wanted to play for Halifax and he would sit as long as it took. Certainly he could have played for us in the MemCup but I guess that wasn't important to him. If we had of traded him to Halifax for Churchill before the summer trade deadline that and solved the Goaltending issue we had sooner and not have cost us Blanchard....... Ah hindsight. I admit I have no idea the behind the scenes stuff that was probably going on. I know players/GM's always tell this story, but it certainly seemed that Bodnarchuk was surprised that the Moose traded for his rights and that he didnt plan on coming to the Q. I remember reading about how Smith, Patenaude and Hillier (I think) all visited him in Hammonds Plains to convince him to come in the summer. With best friends Hillier and Marchand in the league, plus it being his home city, he likely reconsidered. I dont think there was a deal in place, but no doubt Marcel probably talked to Hillier at the very least and got a feel for if Bodnarchuk could be convinced to come to the Q. Not many guys wouldnt report to Moncton from the Maritimes and Halifax (2.5 hours away) unless they really werent planning on playing in the Q. I dont think it was a "bluff" where he was holding out for the Moose, but I do think the Moose were probably the one team that could have convinced him. |
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Post by jimmy on Oct 19, 2007 7:31:41 GMT -4
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Bondrachuck sit the whole previous year as apposed to playing for us? If that was the case than the chances of him going NCAA would have been made the year previously. I always thought he wanted to play for Halifax and he would sit as long as it took. Certainly he could have played for us in the MemCup but I guess that wasn't important to him. If we had of traded him to Halifax for Churchill before the summer trade deadline that and solved the Goaltending issue we had sooner and not have cost us Blanchard....... Ah hindsight. I admit I have no idea the behind the scenes stuff that was probably going on. There was some discussion at the time that Bodnarchuk was maybe willing to report to the Q as a 17 year old, but knew that with Moncton hosting the Mem Cup he would spend most of his rookie season sitting in the stands, vs. being thrust into a key role with the Moose ... a factor to consider as it was his NHL draft year. Also, even though there were a few rumours about him at one point, I don't think Jason Churchill was ever the goalie we needed that season to win the Q ... IMO, Blanchard was already a better goalie than Churchill at that point, and neither of them were of Tordjman's calibre yet ... Speaking of Tordjman, seems he is off to another good start in the AHL - wonder how long it will be before Phoenix gets tired of running out their collection of crappy NHL vet goalies (Telqvist, Auld, Aebischer) and decide to give him a shot? |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 19, 2007 10:07:58 GMT -4
No one has impressed me so far... Seriously, nobody has done anything impressive yet... Riopel is doing decent, thats about it. Doing decent? He's been basically the best goalie in the Q so far, on some nights he seemed to be the only guy that showed up to play. |
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Post by bois on Oct 19, 2007 10:33:24 GMT -4
I had been impressed by the lack of Carey Price posts this week Oh well all good things eventually come to an end  Riopel has been very solid.... but best goalie in the Q? I don't think so |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 19, 2007 10:43:26 GMT -4
I had been impressed by the lack of Carey Price posts this week Oh well all good things eventually come to an end Riopel has been very solid.... but best goalie in the Q? I don't think so Who has played better than him so far? |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 19, 2007 10:44:11 GMT -4
I had been impressed by the lack of Carey Price posts this week Oh well all good things eventually come to an end Riopel has been very solid.... but best goalie in the Q? I don't think so Who has played better than him so far? So far? Olivier Roy  |
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Post by bois on Oct 19, 2007 10:46:00 GMT -4
Yep Roy was the first name that came to mind but also Bobby Nadeau, Marco Cousineau and Kevin Desfosses, maybe D'orso as well
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 19, 2007 10:50:25 GMT -4
Who has played better than him so far? So far? Olivier Roy Roy has better numbers, but the skaters in front of him are playing much better than Moncton has so far...plus the Cats have a grand total of 2 years Q experience on defense in front of him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2007 11:27:12 GMT -4
I had been impressed by the lack of Carey Price posts this week Oh well all good things eventually come to an end Riopel has been very solid.... but best goalie in the Q? I don't think so Who has played better than him so far? I agree that Riopel has been excellent so far...but c'mon...the best in the Q? Your starting to post like chsb. ;D |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 19, 2007 12:44:49 GMT -4
Who has played better than him so far? I agree that Riopel has been excellent so far...but c'mon...the best in the Q? Your starting to post like chsb. ;D No chsb would be saying Moncton has the best offense. You can't tell me any Q goalie has been clear cut better than Rio so far. In half his starts he got a star. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 19, 2007 12:59:07 GMT -4
So far? Olivier Roy Roy has better numbers, but the skaters in front of him are playing much better than Moncton has so far...plus the Cats have a grand total of 2 years Q experience on defense in front of him. We have 5 rookie dmen playing regularly. Lamontagne has the most experience but still less then 2 full years of games played, Corcoran is our other vet with less then 1 season of games played. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 19, 2007 13:13:03 GMT -4
Roy has better numbers, but the skaters in front of him are playing much better than Moncton has so far...plus the Cats have a grand total of 2 years Q experience on defense in front of him. We have 5 rookie dmen playing regularly. Lamontagne has the most experience but still less then 2 full years of games played, Corcoran is our other vet with less then 1 season of games played. What about Prokopetz? Also Cape Breton has scored twice what Moncton has so far. |
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 19, 2007 13:26:26 GMT -4
Roy has better numbers, but the skaters in front of him are playing much better than Moncton has so far...plus the Cats have a grand total of 2 years Q experience on defense in front of him. We have 5 rookie dmen playing regularly. Lamontagne has the most experience but still less then 2 full years of games played, Corcoran is our other vet with less then 1 season of games played. Riopel faces more shots per game according to the stats ... 32.4 vs 26.8 .... indicating the CB defensive game (not just the Dmen) is more effective than Moncton's. Riopel has faced roughly 70 shots more and he has only played 30 more mins than Roy. I can't find any record of how many "ds" on average each guy faces per game ... that would be interesting ... although inconsistency from rink to rink would skew it a bit. |
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If we had of traded him to Halifax for Churchill before the summer trade deadline that and solved the Goaltending issue we had sooner and not have cost us Blanchard....... Ah hindsight. I admit I have no idea the behind the scenes stuff that was probably going on.
