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Post by Optimus Reim on Nov 19, 2007 9:11:34 GMT -4
The worst part about the SH goal by PEI is that Riopel made the initial stop and they still left Morrison out in front all alone. They had ample opportunity to at least tie him up a bit.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 19, 2007 9:21:18 GMT -4
Brannon probably would have more points if he was on the top 2 lines. Kinda hard to do it on an energy line and pk line for points. Personally i feel if you put brannon with mangan, i think youd have a guy who can stand in front of the net and hit garbage.. but thats my opinion I agree. There are some lines that Flynn juggles and some he leaves. Some of his juggling has paid off lately and Brannon and Sills could benefit from a juggle. That line is the only line we have that can get the puck to the front of the net ... with guys actually going hard to the net ... they are usually good for a goal per game. Break that line up and our anemic offense will be worse. The rest of our lines just cycle the puck until they lose it ... and if they do get the puck to the front of the net there is nobody there as they are all in the corner cycling the puck ...
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Post by jimmy on Nov 19, 2007 9:33:34 GMT -4
I agree. There are some lines that Flynn juggles and some he leaves. Some of his juggling has paid off lately and Brannon and Sills could benefit from a juggle. That line is the only line we have that can get the puck to the front of the net ... with guys actually going hard to the net ... they are usually good for a goal per game. Break that line up and our anemic offense will be worse. The rest of our lines just cycle the puck until they lose it ... and if they do get the puck to the front of the net there is nobody there as they are all in the corner cycling the puck ... I agree that the Brannon-Sill-Morehouse line is our most effective ... but I don't think it would be a bad idea to split them up for a few games to see if we can get multiple lines going. Maybe the three of them could individually bring their work ethic to three separate lines and get all three of them going ... we have nothing to lose, and can always reunite them after a few games if it didn't work ... Eagles - Sill - Marquardt Brannon - Mangan - MacAusland Morehouse - Cameron - Lessard Brenton - Brown - Bezak
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 19, 2007 10:10:09 GMT -4
That line is the only line we have that can get the puck to the front of the net ... with guys actually going hard to the net ... they are usually good for a goal per game. Break that line up and our anemic offense will be worse. The rest of our lines just cycle the puck until they lose it ... and if they do get the puck to the front of the net there is nobody there as they are all in the corner cycling the puck ... I agree that the Brannon-Sill-Morehouse line is our most effective ... but I don't think it would be a bad idea to split them up for a few games to see if we can get multiple lines going. Maybe the three of them could individually bring their work ethic to three separate lines and get all three of them going ... we have nothing to lose, and can always reunite them after a few games if it didn't work ... Eagles - Sill - Marquardt Brannon - Mangan - MacAusland Morehouse - Cameron - Lessard Brenton - Brown - Bezak I think they could generate more offense if they used their skill players together. An example of that is putting Eagles with Mangan and Marquardt...then you can have a pretty good 2nd line with Labelle Cameron and Brannon. Stick Lessard with Morehouse and Sill, pretty physical 3rd line. Use MacAusland and Brown with Bezak, very fast 4th line.
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Post by Sébastien on Nov 20, 2007 10:59:59 GMT -4
I agree that the Brannon-Sill-Morehouse line is our most effective ... but I don't think it would be a bad idea to split them up for a few games to see if we can get multiple lines going. Maybe the three of them could individually bring their work ethic to three separate lines and get all three of them going ... we have nothing to lose, and can always reunite them after a few games if it didn't work ... Eagles - Sill - Marquardt Brannon - Mangan - MacAusland Morehouse - Cameron - Lessard Brenton - Brown - Bezak I think they could generate more offense if they used their skill players together. An example of that is putting Eagles with Mangan and Marquardt...then you can have a pretty good 2nd line with Labelle Cameron and Brannon. Stick Lessard with Morehouse and Sill, pretty physical 3rd line. Use MacAusland and Brown with Bezak, very fast 4th line. Although I don't disagree with you Billy, I doubt what you say has any chance of becoming true, as Flynn obviously will not go and put Labelle on the 2nd line. I think what we have seen so far is pretty indicative of that.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 20, 2007 11:22:17 GMT -4
I think they could generate more offense if they used their skill players together. An example of that is putting Eagles with Mangan and Marquardt...then you can have a pretty good 2nd line with Labelle Cameron and Brannon. Stick Lessard with Morehouse and Sill, pretty physical 3rd line. Use MacAusland and Brown with Bezak, very fast 4th line. Although I don't disagree with you Billy, I doubt what you say has any chance of becoming true, as Flynn obviously will not go and put Labelle on the 2nd line. I think what we have seen so far is pretty indicative of that. I see the Labelle situation turning out bad for the Cats, they completely misused him this year, next year I can see him getting 90 points elswhere with the right linemates.
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Post by curtis on Nov 20, 2007 11:30:11 GMT -4
I don't think it is a stretch to say that Labelle is as good or better than Cameron right now. If he is being rotated in and out of the lineup, so should Cameron.
I'd be disappointed to see Labelle traded, as we are almost sure to come out on the losing end.
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 20, 2007 11:44:47 GMT -4
I don't think it is a stretch to say that Labelle is as good or better than Cameron right now. If he is being rotated in and out of the lineup, so should Cameron. I'd be disappointed to see Labelle traded, as we are almost sure to come out on the losing end. Cameron frustrates me more than any player on the Cats ... and he can apparently do no wrong in Flynn's eyes. I see the same work ethic in him as I do in Labelle ... and I think Labelle's skills were slightly better at the end of last year. Its hard to compare them now as Labelle isn't get the chance to develop ... but Cameron isn't showing any sort of development. If Cameron and Labelle had shown improvement in their game from 17 to 18 ... the Wildcats would be a much stronger team.
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Post by jimmy on Nov 20, 2007 12:45:10 GMT -4
I don't think it is a stretch to say that Labelle is as good or better than Cameron right now. If he is being rotated in and out of the lineup, so should Cameron. I'd be disappointed to see Labelle traded, as we are almost sure to come out on the losing end. Cameron frustrates me more than any player on the Cats ... and he can apparently do no wrong in Flynn's eyes. I see the same work ethic in him as I do in Labelle ... and I think Labelle's skills were slightly better at the end of last year. Its hard to compare them now as Labelle isn't get the chance to develop ... but Cameron isn't showing any sort of development. If Cameron and Labelle had shown improvement in their game from 17 to 18 ... the Wildcats would be a much stronger team. I agree .... the lack of development of all of our 17 year olds from last year is both puzzling and the primary reason for our slow start IMO ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2007 14:54:43 GMT -4
Cameron frustrates me more than any player on the Cats ... and he can apparently do no wrong in Flynn's eyes. I see the same work ethic in him as I do in Labelle ... and I think Labelle's skills were slightly better at the end of last year. Its hard to compare them now as Labelle isn't get the chance to develop ... but Cameron isn't showing any sort of development. If Cameron and Labelle had shown improvement in their game from 17 to 18 ... the Wildcats would be a much stronger team. I agree .... the lack of development of all of our 17 year olds from last year is both puzzling and the primary reason for our slow start IMO ... Slow start??? IMO, I think the Wc's are right where they should be in a rebuilding year. It was expected by most.
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Post by curtis on Nov 20, 2007 15:08:42 GMT -4
I agree .... the lack of development of all of our 17 year olds from last year is both puzzling and the primary reason for our slow start IMO ... Slow start??? IMO, I think the Wc's are right where they should be in a rebuilding year. It was expected by most. And yet our current 18 year olds haven't improved...or in some case, been given the opportunity. Our record is what you would expect from a re-building team, no doubt, but without the development of the team's supposed core players. This team would be higher in the standings if Cameron, Labelle, Pianosi, etc... had taken the expected step forward.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2007 15:52:18 GMT -4
Slow start??? IMO, I think the Wc's are right where they should be in a rebuilding year. It was expected by most. And yet our current 18 year olds haven't improved...or in some case, been given the opportunity. Our record is what you would expect from a re-building team, no doubt, but without the development of the team's supposed core players. This team would be higher in the standings if Cameron, Labelle, Pianosi, etc... had taken the expected step forward. I think it's a case of deception with the overacheived season you had last year, where a lot of fans are disappointed with this years performance.
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Post by CatsFan on Nov 21, 2007 10:44:08 GMT -4
I think it's a mix of the following..
We overachieved last year. Let's not compare things to last year. Although we should be an improved team.. but we lost a few key guys.. which brings me to my second point..
LEADERSHIP! We miss it. We don't have much of it. Pretty sad when one of your biggest so called leaders is someone who only shows up every few games. The loss of Gaudet, MacDonald and Welton was big for us. Gaudet was probably one of the best captains in Cats history. He gave his all every night. And Welton and MacDonald were leaders too.. on the blueline. Our young guys don't have someone like them this year. The more I watch the Cats this season.. the more I would like to see Sill the Captain of this team. I think the leadership is a big problem with this team.
The way some players are being treated.. ie: Labelle. This guy has spent the majority of the season in the stands. He's not being given a fair chance. I've heard things.. right from him.. and he's not being treated fairly. Meanwhile.. we seen Brenton not too long ago.. given the chance on the first line.. that was a joke. Funny how you can put a fourth line guy on the first line.. yet you can't give a player, who does have offensive skills, even on the second line. I always thought they should've given Labelle on the second line.. maybe switch him with Bezak and put Bezak on the fourth line. But then again.. I'm not the coach.
Another big part of it is the disappointment of some players. Coming into this season.. we expected a lot more out of Randy Cameron and he's disappointed big time. I was also hoping to see more out of Marquardt.. but I think it's more of the case he doesn't have the linemates to play with. And I think we all expected a little more out of Brannon.. and rightfully so as he is a first rounder. But I think he's being used totally wrong. As much as I don't want to see them break the Sill-Morehouse-Brannon line up.. I'd like to see Brannon up on the top two lines. Maybe have him play with Marquardt. Lessard.. to me is another disappointment. Pianosi on D as well. But I don't want to harp on this.
People go on about our defence being terrible.. but we're actually pretty good on defence side of things.. our offense is just down right horrible.
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Post by kbt on Nov 21, 2007 17:29:06 GMT -4
The way some players are being treated.. ie: Labelle. This guy has spent the majority of the season in the stands. He's not being given a fair chance. I've heard things.. right from him.. and he's not being treated fairly. Posting comments like this are unlikely to help Labelle or anyone else get a better shot at more ice time. Personal comments from players that call the coach's decisions into question do very little to help them along. You're entitled to your opinion, I just don't think you should repeat things that were probably told to you in private.
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Post by CatsFan on Nov 21, 2007 17:31:25 GMT -4
I think it's a mix of the following.. The way some players are being treated.. ie: Labelle. This guy has spent the majority of the season in the stands. He's not being given a fair chance. I've heard things.. right from him.. and he's not being treated fairly. Posting comments like this are unlikely to help Labelle or anyone else get a better shot at more ice time. Personal comments from players that call the coach's decisions into question do very little to help them along. You're entitled to your opinion, I just don't think you should repeat things that were probably told to you in private. No they aren't.. but I was stating something.. I didn't come right out and say anything. I should've just said him and the coach don't see eye to eye.
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