Coach of the Year in The QMJHL

[Jack Bauer]

canucklehead said:

Predictions are made all the time it doesn't mean they are always right. CB is going to finish a few spots higher but so are the Sea Dogs sure people had the Eagles finishing at or nesr the bottom but the Dogs weren't ranked to high in many predictions either. If the Eagles were predicted to finish 7th and finish 3rd that's pretty much the same as the Dogs if they were to finish 2nd many pegged them to finish in about 6th same thing only finishing higher in the standings.

We're talking 2 teams at opposite ends of the rebuilding cycle though. I know you're all excited at your 1st taste of success but honestly what CB is doing is MUCH more unexpected then the Sea Dogs performance to this point.

[canucklehead]

Dude there is nobody that had the Sea Dogs pegged to be in the position they are in although if you know a coach that could help with killing penalties can ya please send him our way!

[markofthebeast]

No there’s a big difference the Sea Dog's didn't loose there best player over this summer or any players really ... The Dog's while early on were predicted to finish 5th or 6th then acquired Howes and Picard that right there is the reason for your success. The dog's aren’t over achieving this season, and last years standing have noting to do with this as much as you're fascinated with it a season when everyone is a year older and you add 2 huge early season 20 acquisitions to the mix, you were bound to have success.

CB however should have been last and if you were to look at just there roster right now and ignore the stats looking at the line up it still doesn’t seem that strong. PV has gotten ever inch of performance out of his players this season from the beginning no matter what JB has done PV's task was grater. It’s not to slight JB but honestly if don’t think he has done anything special this season, nothing the average coach hasn’t any way, he has been horrible but he hasn’t had to work all that hard at looking good lets face it when you got the talent on a team like he has you would have to be a complete moron to look bad.

[canucklehead]

markofthebeast said:

No there’s a big difference the Sea Dog's didn't loose there best player over this summer or any players really ... The Dog's while early on were predicted to finish 5th or 6th then acquired Howes and Picard that right there is the reason for your success. The dog's aren’t over achieving this season, and last years standing have noting to do with this as much as you're fascinated with it a season when everyone is a year older and you add 2 huge early season 20 acquisitions to the mix, you were bound to have success.

CB however should have been last and if you were to look at just there roster right now and ignore the stats looking at the line up it still doesn’t seem that strong. PV has gotten ever inch of performance out of his players this season from the beginning no matter what JB has done PV's task was grater. It’s not to slight JB but honestly if don’t think he has done anything special this season, nothing the average coach hasn’t any way, he has been horrible but he hasn’t had to work all that hard at looking good lets face it when you got the talent on a team like he has you would have to be a complete moron to look bad.

Well that's your opinion but to take a team from the bottom to the top he must have done something right and I'll leave it at that enjoy your last word I know you'll want it I'm used to it

[markofthebeast]

You're right JB did have something to do with the team going from last to first...... It was his terrific GM work, not coaching. The best coach isn't awarded to the coach of team who improves the most it's awarded to the coach who dose the best job with what he has, and that’s PV. If the Sea Dog's lost Dido over the summer and the scenario played out the same he might have a chance but right now PV is way ahead. But don't let me get in the way or your rose coloured dreams.

[Jack Bauer]

canucklehead said:

markofthebeast said:

No there’s a big difference the Sea Dog's didn't loose there best player over this summer or any players really ... The Dog's while early on were predicted to finish 5th or 6th then acquired Howes and Picard that right there is the reason for your success. The dog's aren’t over achieving this season, and last years standing have noting to do with this as much as you're fascinated with it a season when everyone is a year older and you add 2 huge early season 20 acquisitions to the mix, you were bound to have success.

CB however should have been last and if you were to look at just there roster right now and ignore the stats looking at the line up it still doesn’t seem that strong. PV has gotten ever inch of performance out of his players this season from the beginning no matter what JB has done PV's task was grater. It’s not to slight JB but honestly if don’t think he has done anything special this season, nothing the average coach hasn’t any way, he has been horrible but he hasn’t had to work all that hard at looking good lets face it when you got the talent on a team like he has you would have to be a complete moron to look bad.

Well that's your opinion but to take a team from the bottom to the top he must have done something right and I'll leave it at that enjoy your last word I know you'll want it I'm used to it

So when exactly were you supposed to jump from bottom feeder to .600-.650 team? Year 3 seems about right to me considering that means all your top picks from year 1 are entering their prime as 18/19yr olds and since you were last for 2 years you have higher picks and more picks to allow you to acquire guys like Picard and Howes

[canucklehead]

markofthebeast said:

You're right JB did have something to do with the team going from last to first...... It was his terrific GM work, not coaching. The best coach isn't awarded to the coach of team who improves the most it's awarded to the coach who dose the best job with what he has, and that’s PV. If the Sea Dog's lost Dido over the summer and the scenario played out the same he might have a chance but right now PV is way ahead. But don't let me get in the way or your rose coloured dreams.

Your a great one to talk about rose coloured glasses

The question was posed and I gave an opinion it's not like I have anything against PV or anything he's done great things too this is my personal opinion some agree with me and some don't I don't care I don't tell Bauer to take off his rose coloured glasses but I hope your enjoying yourself.

I guess Scotty Bowman should never have been coach of the year cuz he coached the mighty Red Wings teams that had loads of talent.

[Jack Bauer]

canucklehead said:

markofthebeast said:

You're right JB did have something to do with the team going from last to first...... It was his terrific GM work, not coaching. The best coach isn't awarded to the coach of team who improves the most it's awarded to the coach who dose the best job with what he has, and that’s PV. If the Sea Dog's lost Dido over the summer and the scenario played out the same he might have a chance but right now PV is way ahead. But don't let me get in the way or your rose coloured dreams.

Your a great one to talk about rose coloured glasses

The question was posed and I gave an opinion it's not like I have anything against PV or anything he's done great things too this is my personal opinion some agree with me and some don't I don't care I don't tell Bauer to take off his rose coloured glasses but I hope your enjoying yourself.

I guess Scotty Bowman should never have been coach of the year cuz he coached the mighty Red Wings teams that had loads of talent.

What's funny is that Bowman won COY once in Detroit. The year the Avs knocked them out in the playoffs but the season they set the all time wins record .

Guys like Ted Nolan and Pat Burns with lower expectations won the coach of the year when Bowman's teams were winning Cups.

[canucklehead]

CB drafting Roy was an awesome move I sure wish we had him he's playing unreal this year for the Eagles sorry off topic a bit but 16 yrs old he's gonna be a good one in this league for along time.

[ontariohockeyfan]

If Jacque Beaulieu does not win coach of the year I would hope for GM of the year as everybody knows this team only 3 years in the Q and this is JB 's 2nd year here and they are possibly going to finish in the top 5 and possibly higher if they win their games in hand for the whole league that is quite remarkable for a team to do that well in such a small period of time.To pick up Howes and Picard they were great pick ups for this team but to do this you have to have a good GM that knows his stuff and this man (JB) knows what he is doing.When a coach/gm can bring a team from the bottom half of the league to the top in such a short period of time deserves to win one if not both awards.Myself I feel confident to say he (JB) will win one of these awards.From there from what I have seen through the CHL if he wins one of these awards(coach or GM) he has a good chance at the CHL awards during the Memorial Cup weekend in Kitchener.

[markofthebeast]

GM = He better!
Coach = Not so much

[Jason]

I think the only way he would even be givin a long shot at winning is if the seadogs make the league finals or win.

[elementz]

The awards are only based on regular season. Regardless if they win the cup or get sweeped in the first round, it dosen't affect the Coach of the Year candidates.

[colinc123]

jackbauer said:

canucklehead said:

Well that's your opinion but to take a team from the bottom to the top he must have done something right and I'll leave it at that enjoy your last word I know you'll want it I'm used to it

So when exactly were you supposed to jump from bottom feeder to .600-.650 team? Year 3 seems about right to me considering that means all your top picks from year 1 are entering their prime as 18/19yr olds and since you were last for 2 years you have higher picks and more picks to allow you to acquire guys like Picard and Howes

Top picks? come on all they have from year one draft is grant and sparling