SEA DOGS ROBBED

[chillywack]

Wayne Long spoke on 97.3 The Wave new this afternoon and stated that the goal that was reviewed for Halifax ( I can't remember which one it was, maybe the one that tied it up ) went in through the SIDE of the net when the next got lifted up, and not thru the front of the net.

How the hell couldn't they see that on the fuckin' video review! Hell you could even see the goal judge talking to the ref on the headset and shaking his head no and saying that the goal was lifted up and the puck slid thru.

This is an absoute farce. If the QMJHL is going to have video replay, they ought to make sure that the boneheads doing the video review are actually capable!

The Sea Dogs staff watched the exact same angle and view that the video goal judges watched, so it's beyond me how the Sea Dogs could see that it was slid in from the slide, but the boneheads upstairs couldn't.

And how the hell could that sorry excuse for a referee not see that the puck went in thru the side of the net. He was standing RIGHT THERE! You could even tell when he half-ass pointed to the net then immediately looked at the rest of the officials, and then point upstairs that he had no bloody clue what had just happened.

Utterly ridiculous.


*end rant*

[killer]

It was the 4th goal that they scored ................. I had a good angle of the goal and thought it was quite obvious that the puck slid in under the lifted net, I figured it would be a sure fire no goal once reviewed but was shocked when they pointed to center ice as was Voracek who scored the goal.

It is a shame they messed the call up because it may have coast us a point but its water under the bridge now and not much can be done so we lump it.

[chillywack]

I noticed last night that one of the refs were #75, which I normally thought were reserved for linesmen. I then checked tonights CB-MON game and the same two were reffing the game. So when one clicks on Frédéric Leblancs name (the bonehead that called the goal last night) he comes up as a linesman. Does one really think that its fair that a linesman (if he is that) is "transformed" into a ref mid-season. This is also his first season in the Q, it appears.

[major]

It's not the first time we got screwed by the video replay. Last game at Harbour Station against Lewiston when Dido had a break away he was pulled down and went crashing into the net knocking it off. Mr. Currathers went up stairs to review it and he called it NO goal because the net came off before the puck crossed the line. I was told later on they reviewed it again and the puck was in the net before it came off.

[major]

chillywack said:

I noticed last night that one of the refs were #75, which I normally thought were reserved for linesmen. I then checked tonights CB-MON game and the same two were reffing the game. So when one clicks on Frédéric Leblancs name (the bonehead that called the goal last night) he comes up as a linesman. Does one really think that its fair that a linesman (if he is that) is "transformed" into a ref mid-season. This is also his first season in the Q, it appears.

Thats the Q for ya.....the joke of the CHL.

[habh8er]

I said last night after the game in the GDT that I had a perfect view of the goal in question, and the puck clearly went in under the side of the net when it was knocked off it's moorings. Then I took a look at it again in the Telus archives when I saw this thread...the only thing that I can come up with as to why they let the goal stand is that Alex Grant was the one that put his hand on the crossbar and intentionally (or not) pushed the net off. However if I understand the rule the call should have been no goal, and a penalty for delay of game to Grant....other than that I have no explination as to what they based the call on , because it was clear as day that the goal SHOULD NOT have counted.

[mrlittlewolf]

so take back all the sea dogs loafed through the 3rd!!! they were clearly FUCKED AGAIN!!! thus leading to a goal 7 seconds later. then the ref had 3 chances in the next 2 min to give make up penalty calls but his finger was so far up his ass looking for a plum!!!!!

[habh8er]

mrlittlewolf said:

so take back all the sea dogs loafed through the 3rd!!! they were clearly FUCKED AGAIN!!! thus leading to a goal 7 seconds later. then the ref had 3 chances in the next 2 min to give make up penalty calls but his finger was so far up his ass looking for a plum!!!!!

Guess I'll have to bite and ask who said that they "loafed through the 3rd" since it was me who made the last post.

[chillywack]

it looks like these two bone heads are at it again tonight in cape breton #10 moncton check from behind on a cape breotn player...and the cape breton player gets a DIVING penalty. send them back to quebec!


and...can someone tell me how a player gets a penalty for hooking when their stick is in the air?....#75 ref just called a hooking penalty and the players stick was in the air :S lol

[habh8er]

chillywack said:

it looks like these two bone heads are at it again tonight in cape breton #10 moncton check from behind on a cape breotn player...and the cape breton player gets a DIVING penalty. send them back to quebec!


and...can someone tell me how a player gets a penalty for hooking when their stick is in the air?....#75 ref just called a hooking penalty and the players stick was in the air :S lol

How the hell was that a dive?..I was watching that too, but I didn't realize that it was the same crew.....and we had the nerve to complain about Arse. and Carruthers.lol

[bjindaho]

If the rules are the same as the NHL...Dido's goal counts unless the pegs are COMPLETELY off the moorings because the non-attacking team knocked them off. A puck through the side of the net can NEVER be a goal. But of course they were terrible.

[Judas In My Mind]

Okay here I sit reading this thread at 4:15 am because I can't sleep thanks to a wicked case of heartburn, so maybe I'm remembering the rules wrong. Does it even matter if the goal went in through the side of the net? What I am getting at is even if it was somehow inconclusive to the review that the puck slid in under the lifted side of the net, is it not automatically no goal because the net was off the ice? Like even if someone had shot the puck into the middle of a wide open net would it not be no goal because the net was lifted at the time it went in? There is no doubt the net was off the ice when the goal happened at least.

Like I said...it's the wee hours of the morning so maybe I am remembering the rules wrongly.

[habh8er]

Rule 50(Delaying the game)

(c) a minor penalty shall be imposed on any player (including the goalkeeper) who delays the game by deliberately displacing the goal post from it's normal position. The referee or linesman shall stop play immediately when a goal post has been displaced. If the goal post is deliberately displaced by a goalkeeper or player during the course of a breakaway", a penalty shot shall be awarded to the nonoffending team, which shot shall be taken by the player last in posession of the puck.
NOTE: In the event that a goal post is deliberately displaced by a defending player or goalkeeper, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goal posts the referee, at his discretion, may assess a minor penalty under rule 50(c), a penalty shot under rule50(d), or award a goal.


Clearly the wrong call was made if the puck didn't cross the goal line between the normal position of the goal posts....which it did not.

[reddogbluedog]

Well I have been around long enough and have won games on bad calls and lost games on bad calls. It is going to happen. The fact is that they totally dominated a tired team in the third period and we sat fresh legs that could have helped. Sometimes coaches make mistakes to. I think that this was one of them. They brag up Gallant and the boys today in the paper and they don't use them when they need them. Please, the article today is no more than a bunch of crap if JB is not going to use these guys. There are a couple of good players on that line that could help a lot of teams in this league.

[Maddog]

Some calls are bad, it happens. I think Halifax lost to Cape Breton on a blown call last week. Maybe the Halifax posters could verify this. Anyway 3 out of 4 points so far this week isn't to bad. Two more points tonight would be even better.