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Post by bjindaho on Sept 5, 2007 9:26:38 GMT -4
Just some things to ponder...
Our 19s for this year are: Gauthier, Liske, McNeil, Sparling, Gallant
If Liske has the kind of year every one knows he is capable of, he could be an impact 20 for us next year.
Sparling seems like he might progress towards becoming our first home-grown impact 20.
Gauthier has virtually no chance of being on the team next year, so if we could somehow pad his stats to make him appealing to someone else, that'd be cool.
McNeil is likely to offered an invite to camp, but will have little chance of making because he'd be at best a 6th d-man.
Gallant would be a good guy to keep if a) he actually works on playing hockey (he has some skills) and b) he fights a lot. He should be the best fighter in the league, which is nice to have for intimidation factor at least. If he can get 236+ PIM (which would give him 500 career), he would be very tough not to bring back.
Mayer turns 19 next year, so our goaltending has a two year window (this year and next). Hopefully, JB is right about Passingham because he is eligible to play 2 seasons AFTER Mayer leaves (assuming he plays in the AHL at 20). Dunnett would be eligible to play 3 seasons.
We likely have a two year window on D as well, as Grant will probably move up to Wilkes-Barre Scranton as a 20, and Stich will likely not be brought back to use up two spots (20 and euro).
Forwards-wise, I think Dido will be here for three more years, which should enable our forward core to strengthen over the next three.
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Post by dogbert on Sept 5, 2007 10:39:23 GMT -4
The numbers say next year is a year to go for it, but to do that we need guys like Stoddard, Pard, Kirkpatrick, Despres, and Anthony to develop well.
I was impressed with what little I saw of Guathier so far in camp. IMO he's physically stronger. What do you do if he wracks up a ppg or better? I don't think it will happen, I'd be happy with 50, but he's capable of it if he gets the ice time and pairings.
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Post by bjindaho on Sept 5, 2007 10:48:09 GMT -4
If Liske is near where he is capable of being, then I think it is between Gauthier and Sparling for the a 20 spot.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Sept 5, 2007 11:07:57 GMT -4
Gallant would be a good guy to keep if a) he actually works on playing hockey (he has some skills)Umm. No he does not. and b) he fights a lot. He should be the best fighter in the league, which is nice to have for intimidation factor at least. What are talking about?? He should be the best fighter? Henegen is a far better fighter and he's the guy that is the best fighter in the league. It's not even close. |
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Post by joey on Sept 5, 2007 11:41:32 GMT -4
Gallant would be a good guy to keep if a) he actually works on playing hockey (he has some skills)Umm. No he does not. and b) he fights a lot. He should be the best fighter in the league, which is nice to have for intimidation factor at least. What are talking about?? He should be the best fighter? Henegen is a far better fighter and he's the guy that is the best fighter in the league. It's not even close. Catatonic ,Gallant would suprise you with his skills, except not put in that roll. Look back and he has scored in the last 2 games hes played in . And when he said the best in the league he meant as a twenty and Hennigan would be gone. Brett gave Hennigan one of his best bouts last year. We know your not a Gallant fan but dont put that belt on Hennagan right yet. He should win over Brett with such a size difference but Gallant is bigger this year ,might suprise you. |
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Post by bjindaho on Sept 5, 2007 11:55:39 GMT -4
He would be a bottom 6, who can hit, fight, and has some offensive skills. 10 goals would be amazing production from a 4th liner, and I think he could come close (he had 5 last year).
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Sept 5, 2007 12:00:06 GMT -4
Umm. No he does not. What are talking about?? He should be the best fighter? Henegen is a far better fighter and he's the guy that is the best fighter in the league. It's not even close. Catatonic ,Gallant would suprise you with his skills, except not put in that roll. Look back and he has scored in the last 2 games hes played in . And when he said the best in the league he meant as a twenty and Hennigan would be gone. Brett gave Hennigan one of his best bouts last year. We know your not a Gallant fan but dont put that belt on Hennagan right yet. He should win over Brett with such a size difference but Gallant is bigger this year ,might suprise you. Gallant doesn't have skills and if in a strong season you are thinking of using him as a 20yo something is desperately wrong. Gallant didnt give Henegen one of his best bouts, Henegen won the fight easily - as he should have with a top heavy against a middleweight. Gallant is a valuable player at 18/19 but you build him up to be something he is not. He is not a good player, he is on the team for one reason. He is not an overager. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 5, 2007 12:13:29 GMT -4
I like Brett Gallant and all but....in this case Catatonic Moose is correct. If the Dogs decide to make a big run at it next year, you fill those 20 slots with players capable of a PPG. Nothing against Brett. Just saying. Contending teams milk the 3 20 slots for offense or amazing D or superb goaltending. Not enforcers.
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Post by canucklehead on Sept 5, 2007 12:37:09 GMT -4
I was gonna reply but Leask already used my answer so .....Ditto!
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Post by bjindaho on Sept 5, 2007 12:47:11 GMT -4
so you guys would rather have a Francois Gauthier than a Brett Gallant?
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Post by habh8er on Sept 5, 2007 13:00:37 GMT -4
Definately have to agree that there is NO way the Dogs keep Gallant as a 20 year old next year...he has had a good run here...and will most likely have his best year this year...fighting and with scoring potential...that said ....would someone else be interested in him next year...kinda like the situation with Brad this year...before Charland(20 yr.) was brought in there was a lot of talk on the street about him being a good fit here
I think we'll see after tonite how we are looking, as far as a fighter for next year goes...It's looking like Pisano is going to be called upon with Brett out...should do well in that role next year I think... with another year of growth and training that kid could be a MONSTER
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Post by joey on Sept 5, 2007 13:06:05 GMT -4
Catatonic ,Gallant would suprise you with his skills, except not put in that roll. Look back and he has scored in the last 2 games hes played in . And when he said the best in the league he meant as a twenty and Hennigan would be gone. Brett gave Hennigan one of his best bouts last year. We know your not a Gallant fan but dont put that belt on Hennagan right yet. He should win over Brett with such a size difference but Gallant is bigger this year ,might suprise you. Gallant doesn't have skills and if in a strong season you are thinking of using him as a 20yo something is desperately wrong. Gallant didnt give Henegen one of his best bouts, Henegen won the fight easily - as he should have with a top heavy against a middleweight. Gallant is a valuable player at 18/19 but you build him up to be something he is not. He is not a good player, he is on the team for one reason. He is not an overager. Did you see fight , no. I supose one of your very close ,close freinds did. If it was easy their would have been a video but their was not. All I have to say if they would have brought someone else in this year to help with the fighting and gave Gallant a little more of a roll he is capable of putting up some respectable numbers for a roll player.But they never did that and Gallant will have his same roll ,bang ,smash ,and fight if needed.Im not saying Gallant will be here next year but I he will do fine with the roll he will be playing this year. With a better team this year i can see Jacques with a bit of a leash this year. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 5, 2007 13:40:45 GMT -4
so you guys would rather have a Francois Gauthier than a Brett Gallant? Umm....where did anyone say that? You go out and trade for 20's that are top end offensive talents and leaders, or great D-men, etc. That is if you don't already have 3 of those types on your roster and you are trying to make a run at winning it all. Gauthier doesn't fit into that bill at all. |
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Post by canucklehead on Sept 5, 2007 14:38:47 GMT -4
I can see them keeping guys like Liske and Sparling if they have good seasons but not Gauthier or Gallant.
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Post by Gallant-Unit(14-0-3) on Sept 5, 2007 15:33:17 GMT -4
keeping Gallant as a 20? That would be like keeping Taylor Moore. Gallant as a player is ok, only awesome for fighting.
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