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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 5, 2009 15:10:00 GMT -4
On top of that, our biggest weakness is our blueliners on the PP, and we just dealt away someone who somewhat frequently sees PP time... canbeer's theory is the most logical on WHY we made the deal, but it's still a bad trade. Agreed. I can easily see why that type of addition was made and that an one or two like that was needed... just the actual trade to get it done doesn't look all the great. To the Bathurst fans, has Tesink been playing forward this year or was he back again on D? I seem to remember him in Hali up front and would imagine that's where CB will use him. It's just tough you had to give up a decent, gritty 18 year old D to get him. I could see the same line of thinking in the MacDougall move but that was a much worse move IMO... made less sense. My problem is that Tesink is the type of player you trade a mid round pick for, not a player who plays a similar role and is younger and more talented. Tesink won't be in the league next year, while Malka will be playing top 4 in our division.
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Post by caperguy on Jan 5, 2009 15:11:16 GMT -4
The trade hasn't been officially posted yet....perhaps there's a pick with it
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Post by hal on Jan 5, 2009 15:16:32 GMT -4
Before I get shots taken at me , I want this part to be clear : "I DO NOT LIKE THIS TRADE" ! I don't like Tesnik's Style ! - There were some Off Ice Issues with Malka ! I won't elaborate other than they go back to last year with an incident involving Lemonhead . It may be Mario's way of dealing with it before a Playoff Run or where he is taking the Anaheim Model of size over speed ......"OR"...........we may be seeing with our own eyes why Durocher has bounced around from organization to organization . * If you excuse me I have to go lie down as I thought I read that someone misses Pascal and wishes we had him back !
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 5, 2009 15:18:39 GMT -4
The trade hasn't been officially posted yet....perhaps there's a pick with it Even if you get a 4th out of it ... it actually weakens you defensively (a small amount) in a year you are trying to contend.
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Post by canbeer on Jan 5, 2009 15:23:56 GMT -4
Agreed. I can easily see why that type of addition was made and that an one or two like that was needed... just the actual trade to get it done doesn't look all the great. To the Bathurst fans, has Tesink been playing forward this year or was he back again on D? I seem to remember him in Hali up front and would imagine that's where CB will use him. It's just tough you had to give up a decent, gritty 18 year old D to get him. I could see the same line of thinking in the MacDougall move but that was a much worse move IMO... made less sense. My problem is that Tesink is the type of player you trade a mid round pick for, not a player who plays a similar role and is younger and more talented. Tesink won't be in the league next year, while Malka will be playing top 4 in our division. Yep. I agree with the addition or that type of addition but don't think the trade was great. Seems like it was made out of necessity or panic when the fact is you should be able to get that type of player without subtracting. Not sure if Hali would do it within the division and especially to CB but I think Louis-Seize would be a great player for CB. Doesn't have the intimidating size of a Tesnik but plays his role perfectly and would be great to have in the playoffs.
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Post by section5 on Jan 5, 2009 15:47:12 GMT -4
Before I get shots taken at me , I want this part to be clear : "I DO NOT LIKE THIS TRADE" ! I don't like Tesnik's Style ! - There were some Off Ice Issues with Malka ! I won't elaborate other than they go back to last year with an incident involving Lemonhead . It may be Mario's way of dealing with it before a Playoff Run or where he is taking the Anaheim Model of size over speed ......"OR"...........we may be seeing with our own eyes why Durocher has bounced around from organization to organization . * If you excuse me I have to go lie down as I thought I read that someone misses Pascal and wishes we had him back ! LOL that was me who said he was missing Pascal. And admittedly maybe just a bit. I always had great respect for him in his GM role and felt given the small market the guys' coaching/GM combo was pretty good. I really really want to give Mario a chance here to build the team he's looking for but man - the lack of set lines, the "questionable trading" and ya I'm missing Pascal just a bit (for the time being). P.S. Keep in mind I felt we should have been sellers so... I might question a lot of things; perhaps unfairly...
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Post by brec7 on Jan 5, 2009 15:48:49 GMT -4
hal, I'd heard similiar things about Malka but oddly enough he's been playing better lately. Either way, doesn't mean he should be traded for such a little return. Hopefully there is a pick involved, that's something I could see not being reported on the site but added on the Q site.
The idea to get bigger and tougher up front isn't necessarily bad, but why it's come at the expense of Malka & Gouchie is puzzling. I don't think anyone doubted that Finn for Ward was a good trade if the team was buying... but I honestly think the upgrade with that trade has been significantly nullified by the downgrade in the other 2 deals.
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Post by section5 on Jan 5, 2009 15:54:29 GMT -4
With all due respect I don't buy any of that. A small quick team gets knocked around but plays through it. This team was not likely to create fear in any other team other than on the score board. Adding Tesnik and losing Malka has done nothing to change that. You don't buy what? You don't think CB made this move to add tough/physical play and size? Don't get me wrong I think that's exactly why they made the trade but I don't think we will get anything from it. Tesnik is not Clendenning, Lamontange or Prokopetz and I'm not expecting that type of play from him. If he can perform as well as Malka I think that's all we can ask !!
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 5, 2009 15:54:41 GMT -4
The trade hasn't been officially posted yet....perhaps there's a pick with it It was posted by the Titan front office, why would they not have the pick there if it was the case?
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Post by brec7 on Jan 5, 2009 15:55:52 GMT -4
Don't you have work to do? Nothing more important than what's been the most busy day of the Q trading period... you above all should know that.
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Post by Jason on Jan 5, 2009 16:01:16 GMT -4
What kind of player is Malka on the power-play? What unit do you see him playing on? And lastly, what kind of potential does he have? Is he gonna be around at 20?
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jan 5, 2009 16:03:12 GMT -4
What kind of player is Malka on the power-play? What unit do you see him playing on? And lastly, what kind of potential does he have? Is he gonna be around at 20? Malka mostly played on the 2nd PP . He has a big shot , he has gotten better at setting him self up for it by using the other players out there . Before he would just get it and shoot it . But when is shot gets through its highly effective.
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Post by Jason on Jan 5, 2009 16:10:48 GMT -4
What kind of player is Malka on the power-play? What unit do you see him playing on? And lastly, what kind of potential does he have? Is he gonna be around at 20? Malka mostly played on the 2nd PP . He has a big shot , he has gotten better at setting him self up for it by using the other players out there . Before he would just get it and shoot it . But when is shot gets through its highly effective. Tesink also has a nice shot but not sure if he will play on your PP. I beleive his shot was clocked at 91-93 on the speed gun last season. I havn't attended many Titan games this year but I'm pretty sure Tesink was playing defense with us. I never really noticed him and thats a problem. At 6'4" he should be throwing bodies around but he's not.
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Post by caperguy on Jan 5, 2009 16:15:48 GMT -4
Great, so now we'll have 2 huge Dmen (Brodeur) that don't effectively use their size. You'd think someone in the org'n would recognize this and help them improve. Gee wiz, Brodeur was with Pho camp for a while - you'd think someone in that org'n would notice that in him.
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Post by Jason on Jan 5, 2009 16:19:24 GMT -4
Perhaps if he's brought in specifically for that role then maybe the coaching staff will make it a point to let him know that's what he's there for. Tesink is very capable of throwing big hits, it just doesn't happen often.
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