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Post by EagleFan2009 on Jan 5, 2009 17:19:28 GMT -4
hmm, If mario does pull off the Brennan deal and gets Macaskill it wouldn't be bad. My guess what would be left would be: Ward Brennan Meilleur Pisachek Macaskill Tesnik Ellis I can live with that
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Post by canbeer on Jan 5, 2009 17:38:02 GMT -4
That's why it's good to have grit and toughness up front as well... tough losing Dmen to 5 minute penalties. So I see a guy like Tesink as a decent or needed addition to bring some grit up front... just too bad the price was Malka. The Tesink deal isn't great but makes a bit of sense to me... the MacDougall deal just seems like a bad version of the Tesink deal... which makes it really bad. Halifax has had great toughness and physical play all year but they still added Boland. I think they wanted to make sure they had size up front and to make sure that when toughness was needed that they didn't always lose a Dman... O'Connor and Pender bring great grit but they're also important top 4 D for the Moose. You think he was brought in to play forward? Eagles have about a billion forwards right now. Not sure he can crack the lineup up front. I think he'll likely be the 6-7 D. Yes I think he was brought in to play forward... that's my guess.
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Post by Deer on Jan 5, 2009 17:38:14 GMT -4
hmm, If mario does pull off the Brennan deal and gets Macaskill it wouldn't be bad. My guess what would be left would be: Ward Brennan Meilleur Pisachek Macaskill Tesnik Ellis I can live with that I'm of the mind that too many trades usually just messes a team up. Our defence needed improvements, but not a complete and utter overhaul. That said, we do need another top 2 guy. I'd still like to see at least a Brennan calibre dman come over.
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Jan 5, 2009 17:40:57 GMT -4
How the hell can u bring him in to play forward? If thats the case we AS OF NOW have 17 forwards. Where is he gonna fit?
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Post by section5 on Jan 5, 2009 17:49:27 GMT -4
To bring Tesnik in on D makes very little sense imo. To bring him in as a forward makes less....
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Post by Jason on Jan 5, 2009 17:54:05 GMT -4
Trading for Tesink in the first place makes little sense to me.
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Post by brec7 on Jan 5, 2009 18:04:08 GMT -4
Good point on that deer... imagine if Kendall's proposed D came through (and it's not that far fetched)... 4 of our top 7 would be new players. Don't know how good that is for team chemistry.
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Post by section5 on Jan 5, 2009 18:16:31 GMT -4
Good point on that deer... imagine if Kendall's proposed D came through (and it's not that far fetched)... 4 of our top 7 would be new players. Don't know how good that is for team chemistry. Without trying to sound too down on all this stuff but Brec man do you think there is a whole lot of chemistry on this team.... Seriously none of these new guys coming in are going to be upsetting established line combos. Team is playing pretty well and I've enjoyed the first half but I think they are being carried by one or two guys stepping up on any given night - I don't see a lot of offense being generated by the knowledge one player has of an other. There're playing well and having some success as a group of individuals - granted some more individual then others. Didn't some hockey coach say "Some are individual some have individuality thrust upon them" ... lol sorry maybe that was me who said that. ;D
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Jan 5, 2009 18:20:43 GMT -4
Yeah i agree deer/brec but the way Mario goes on about how the season is too prepare for the playoffs, it really would not surprise me at all.
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Post by brec7 on Jan 5, 2009 18:22:32 GMT -4
Seriously none of these new guys coming in are going to be upsetting established line combos. We have established line combos? ;D
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Post by Murph on Jan 5, 2009 18:53:41 GMT -4
To bring Tesnik in on D makes very little sense imo. To bring him in as a forward makes less.... I don't think Tesink has played regularily as a defencemen since he was 17. Gatineau converted him to forward, and when that didn't work well, he was dealt to Bathurst. They played him some on defence, but I think he was mainly a fill-in on defence during his time in Bathurst, when they had injuries.
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Post by chsb on Jan 5, 2009 19:01:48 GMT -4
To bring Tesnik in on D makes very little sense imo. To bring him in as a forward makes less.... I don't think Tesink has played regularily as a defencemen since he was 17. Gatineau converted him to forward, and when that didn't work well, he was dealt to Bathurst. They played him some on defence, but I think he was mainly a fill-in on defence during his time in Bathurst, when they had injuries. This season he played all the time on defense. Jannard was used sporadically as a forward instead.
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Post by cb2990 on Jan 5, 2009 19:15:35 GMT -4
I expected Malka to be dealt at some point, he's good trade bait and off ice problems are a possibility (from his demeanor I get the impression he has a bad attitude). However, as so many others have said, his play lately has been great. Great shot, great physical play.... sometimes I find him to be a bit "all talk" on the ice, but as someone pointed out, Mario is strict about fighting and Malka did at one point get a concussion. I'll always remember him for having the balls to fight Ryan Graham as a 17 YO in an exhibition game.
Tesink.... yeah, certainly a downgrade, and a very confusing move. If Mario brings in another big name defenseman it will be a little bit easier to stomach, but when all is said and done there was really no need to get Tesink. On the plus side, though, the mention of his name reminds me of the time he went after Sam Finn and nearly lost the fight ;D
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Post by Kingrat on Jan 5, 2009 21:36:42 GMT -4
the problem with Tesink is that he has played 2 ..half seasons on forward/defence .. one full season last year as a forward and this year all defence ..
He has a very heavy shot ... seldom have I seen him use a slap shot .. hasn't fought since his wrist injury two years ago ... at least not at home ..
As a forward last year he gave out some tremendous hard hits and more than one player left the ice in pain ... as a Dman he didn't seem to be as physical as he could be ..
He is a hard working kid in great physical shape at 6"04" 222 lbs , at one time he was close to 240 lbs ..
In any case you have a guy who is well liked by his teammates , gives an honest effort .. I am happy we traded him in that he likely would not be around as a 20 on next years team ..
Heh .. we got ripped off big time in the Clendenning trade , we gave away Prokovetz to DRU for next to nothing .. Lamontagne although decent was a 2nd overall pick when we could have got the goaltender we needed that year ..Bernier , we gave you Karl Fournier ..
Put it this way .. ex Bathurst players have always performed pretty good for the Eagles .. you might be just surprised with the way Tesink plays .. hopefully we got a guy Dame-Malke ( spelling) that will help our powerplay which is now not so great ..
In any case best wishes to both players on their new teams .. hope the Eagles can knock out the Wildcats if they meet in round two ... and also hope the Brec .. Deer can make it back to Bathurst soon .. wouldn't that be something if we finished 4th and by some fluke turn of events .. Champion .. stole a series
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