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Post by mikeb on Jun 9, 2009 11:17:36 GMT -4
Lala, I'm assuming that you haven't heard much on 19 YO Free Agent Jim Campbell have you? I'm just curious about this guy and why Mario's seeking a 19 Ontario FA when Micallef is already property of Cape Breton's...Is Micallef staying home? No idea. If youre bringing in a 19 year old FA, than you have to assume he can play in your top 4 on D or top 6 up front, otherwise hes useless. Actually you have to assume that they think he can be top 4 D or top 6 F. Which is what you meant, I'm sure. With FA it's always a "wait and see" thing. He could be top 4D or bottom 7/8 and a waste. But you already knew that.
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Post by mikeb on Jun 9, 2009 11:19:24 GMT -4
Lala, I'm assuming that you haven't heard much on 19 YO Free Agent Jim Campbell have you? I'm just curious about this guy and why Mario's seeking a 19 Ontario FA when Micallef is already property of Cape Breton's...Is Micallef staying home? You guys always bring in 18 or 19 year old dmen from Ontario Micallef wasn't very good.... this guy doesn't have to be real good to at least equal what you're losing in dropping Myles oh and I agree with mr gordon MacDougall will be your captain The guy has to better than Micallef seeing as they both are 19YO. There is no sense in bringing in someone who is "as good" as what you have already. You want to bring in someone better.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 9, 2009 11:30:07 GMT -4
You guys always bring in 18 or 19 year old dmen from Ontario Micallef wasn't very good.... this guy doesn't have to be real good to at least equal what you're losing in dropping Myles oh and I agree with mr gordon MacDougall will be your captain The guy has to better than Micallef seeing as they both are 19YO. There is no sense in bringing in someone who is "as good" as what you have already. You want to bring in someone better. I'm sure they think he is. But it could also be a case of knowing what you have in Micallef and hoping the new guy can bring more of an impact. If he can, then great, if not then we just need to find a 3rd pairing D elsewhere or from within which shouldn't be a huge deal. I think ideally this new guy or someone else pushes for top 4 ice forcing a deal at mid-season of a19yr old D for some help up front.
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Post by macneil on Jun 9, 2009 12:04:45 GMT -4
I cant see Stinziani being back as an overager.. people around the team that i talk to say that he is kind of a cancer on the team.. and in the dressing room.. and some what of a trouble maker.. i think that Desveaux will make that team and should be one of the top penalty killers if only given a chance.. as for captain i am guessing that it will be Nick MacNeil.. with Meilleur Horyl and Adam wearing the A's.. I don't understand where Stinz being a cancer is coming from, from what I hear he is actually pretty fun in the dr and outside of it he is a pretty nice guy....as far as captains for next year I'm basing this off my early predictions and the picture that is on the eagles site from the draft of ward macneil jodoin macdougall and ellis...I'm guessing MacNeil captain, Ward, MacDougall and Ellis with A's
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Post by brec7 on Jun 9, 2009 13:29:40 GMT -4
I think the Euros are going to be what ends up making or breaking the team.
Given that there seems to hope for Ward coming back, plus a higher than usual emphasis on a specific 19 year old free agent (Campbell), it doesn't leave much room on the blueline (which is the the strength anyway) meaning the Eagles (I would think) would pick two European forwards. I'm kind of disappointed that there wasn't a move to move up to get a 2nd pick in the first round. However, even with decent picks, history would teach us that we'll probably get one decent productive Euro and another who's a bust.
I think Desveaux, Michallef, and McCarron would have to have amazing camps to return. If I could get a bottom end pick from a team who just needs Q calibre bodies, I'd take it as I don't see the room. If you lump Campbell in with the returnees (and he is officially on the protected list according to the Q site), we have TWELVE 19's... not including Euros. That number needs to drop.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 9, 2009 13:52:11 GMT -4
I think the Euros are going to be what ends up making or breaking the team. Given that there seems to hope for Ward coming back, plus a higher than usual emphasis on a specific 19 year old free agent (Campbell), it doesn't leave much room on the blueline (which is the the strength anyway) meaning the Eagles (I would think) would pick two European forwards. I'm kind of disappointed that there wasn't a move to move up to get a 2nd pick in the first round. However, even with decent picks, history would teach us that we'll probably get one decent productive Euro and another who's a bust. I think Desveaux, Michallef, and McCarron would have to have amazing camps to return. If I could get a bottom end pick from a team who just needs Q calibre bodies, I'd take it as I don't see the room. If you lump Campbell in with the returnees (and he is officially on the protected list according to the Q site), we have TWELVE 19's... not including Euros. That number needs to drop. Wasn't Campbell at camp one of the last 2 years?
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Post by brec7 on Jun 9, 2009 14:07:36 GMT -4
I think they tried to get him at camp last year but couldn't if memory serves me correct. Not sure though.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 9, 2009 14:11:12 GMT -4
I think they tried to get him at camp last year but couldn't if memory serves me correct. Not sure though. Maybe that was it....he might of even been on the roster list but never showed....either way I know his name has been out there for a while.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jun 9, 2009 16:01:53 GMT -4
Yah , they were trying to get him here last year , but he didnt show. Apparently he his a good offencive defencmen , if he can turn that over into the Major Junior game that would be a great addition to the Eagles.
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Post by P-O on Jun 9, 2009 16:18:17 GMT -4
If you guys are going for it, which seems the case.
I suggest 1 d-man : Andrew Randazzo from Drummondville. He is physical and safe defensively.
Bernard CANNOT play on the 3rd line. he is a 4th liner 1 game out of 2.
One guy like Mathieu Loisel in Québec would be a very good 3rd center for your team. A bit small, but gritty and physical. With ice time, he can do wonder.
One guy I discovered when we played against in the playoffs was Nick McNeil, this guy is awesome.
Let's hope Adam will stay healthy.
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Post by f1sh on Jun 9, 2009 20:59:25 GMT -4
If you guys are going for it, which seems the case. I suggest 1 d-man : Andrew Randazzo from Drummondville. He is physical and safe defensively. Bernard CANNOT play on the 3rd line. he is a 4th liner 1 game out of 2. One guy like Mathieu Loisel in Québec would be a very good 3rd center for your team. A bit small, but gritty and physical. With ice time, he can do wonder. Eagles need a #1 center, not so much a #3. If they're confident Ward will come back then I agree with brec they should draft 2 Euro forwards, they need help down the middle bigtime. If Ward is only 50/50 and there's a decent D available then it makes sense to pick him, see what happens with Ward and possibly have 5 "top 4" Ds until Xmas along with a kid who plays very little. If no longterm injuries to any of the 5, trade 1 at Xmas for some forward help. Eagles look very good defensively but sorely lacking up front. We'll see what happens at the Euro draft and during the season but it sure has the looks of another half hearted attempt that will die in the 2nd or 3rd round unless they get very lucky AND sacrifice the next 2 years. One year at a time should be the organization's motto, they never look beyond that.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 9, 2009 21:34:59 GMT -4
Eagles look very good defensively but sorely lacking up front. We'll see what happens at the Euro draft and during the season but it sure has the looks of another half hearted attempt that will die in the 2nd or 3rd round unless they get very lucky AND sacrifice the next 2 years. One year at a time should be the organization's motto, they never look beyond that. And what bothers me most is the team is doing nothing to say that isn't their plan and every action just leads to more proof supporting that argument. It's really going to catch up to us, maybe as soon as a years time. I just hope management sees what is painfully obvious to those who follow the team and league.
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Post by hal on Jun 11, 2009 14:18:29 GMT -4
Just a few catch-up thoughts : - Luke Adam just might be the best talent to play here since James Sheppard . He is motivated getting out of Montreal and is eager to show Buffalo that he can play in the AHL next year = "a monster year " ! He can't go back home so Cape Breton is his best choice . He remembers the Playoffs here .........I'm sure he is really happy ! - Can't comment on Micallef or Deveaux , other than Bernard being here , the JR A Dee drafted and invited most likely doesn't make things easy for them....... but McCarron is back for sure . Apparently he and his parents were given some sort of assurances by Mario . - If 2 Euro snipers are Drafted / show up and be productive , the Offence might just score enough to be Upper Crust . Let's face it with the returning Dee ( Ward being the Key ) and our Goaltending, we shouldn't get blown out too often . If this JR A guy they drafted can play safely on your 3rd pairing ......we could surprise . We have the Dee , we have the Goaltending , we have a loon ................so bring in 2 Euro goal scorers .............easy...............isn't it ? I get a real sense that Mario doesn't see himself here for a long time though ! Let's face it , the guy coached our World U20 Junior Team ! The highest honour a JR Coach can obtain did he really see himself still in Junior 5-6 years later ? . The troubling thing is that he has bounced all around the Q ........why is that ? I think it may be because he is not patient enough to oversee a Rebuilding Phase ! His desire to get to the next level is what drives this philosophy of "just go for it baby" and perhaps is the reason why he never sets down any kinda roots anywhere............my thoughts on his style anyway !
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 11, 2009 18:36:14 GMT -4
Just a few catch-up thoughts : - Luke Adam just might be the best talent to play here since James Sheppard . He is motivated getting out of Montreal and is eager to show Buffalo that he can play in the AHL next year = "a monster year " ! He can't go back home so Cape Breton is his best choice . He remembers the Playoffs here .........I'm sure he is really happy ! - Can't comment on Micallef or Deveaux , other than Bernard being here , the JR A Dee drafted and invited most likely doesn't make things easy for them....... but McCarron is back for sure . Apparently he and his parents were given some sort of assurances by Mario . - If 2 Euro snipers are Drafted / show up and be productive , the Offence might just score enough to be Upper Crust . Let's face it with the returning Dee ( Ward being the Key ) and our Goaltending, we shouldn't get blown out too often . If this JR A guy they drafted can play safely on your 3rd pairing ......we could surprise . We have the Dee , we have the Goaltending , we have a loon ................so bring in 2 Euro goal scorers .............easy...............isn't it ? I get a real sense that Mario doesn't see himself here for a long time though ! Let's face it , the guy coached our World U20 Junior Team ! The highest honour a JR Coach can obtain did he really see himself still in Junior 5-6 years later ? . The troubling thing is that he has bounced all around the Q ........why is that ? I think it may be because he is not patient enough to oversee a Rebuilding Phase ! His desire to get to the next level is what drives this philosophy of "just go for it baby" and perhaps is the reason why he never sets down any kinda roots anywhere............my thoughts on his style anyway ! Good post.....some thoughts.... -On Adam: I think the big thing for him is the fresh start. I don't think playoffs or anything else here really matters, and neither does how close we are to Newfoundland. I agree he has potential to be one of the biggest offensive threads in the league. -It's scary to think the team would guarantee Mccarron a spot when he should be in the same boat as someone like Deveaux who is a better overall player then him imo. I really hope that's not the case. It McCarron was such a large part of the future why did he play in ONE playoff game? -On the Euro's: Even the most optimistic Eagle fan can't expect 2 Euro snipers. 1 top 6 Euro forward and 1 "project" is about the best we can hope for. There's a reason the team was looking into Piscacek coming back....they know finding 2 impact players for next year is unrealistic. -Not sure what you mean with Durocher. He's never been a GM before so he's never had any control on the overall direction the team was going in. In Bathurst he took on a rebuilding effort and they canned him after a few weeks. I think that's more a case of a team not having any direction then a coach not having any. If a guy coaching here doesn't see himself becoming more then a coach at this level then I don't want him coaching my team. I want someone constantly striving to get to the highest level possible, but running a franchise into the ground after 2 or 3 years isn't the way to do that and that's where we're headed if we keep trading multiple assets for 19yr olds.
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Post by hal on Jun 11, 2009 19:13:26 GMT -4
I guess what I meant was that he seems to think no year is a down year . I forgot about him being a Rookie GM but he would have had the ear of the GM in those other places although not having the final say . He never mentions taking a year to play the kids or getting younger by trading older players hence rebuilding .I'd hate to think that we are gonna end up in one of those 2-3 year tail spins because of his actions ........................................but he is elsewhere watching it !
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