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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 24, 2007 1:02:34 GMT -4
Eagles lose 3-2.
Some player comments:
Dorsey looked pretty bad on both goals imo. I'd say he cut himself tonight.
I really like Dame-Malka. Don't know how he wasnt drafted. Tons of potential in this guy.
Mariani definitely is Q calibre. Good skater. Got a lot of ice time tonight but I felt he almost joined the rush a bit too much.
Piskacek with another nice hip check. Other then that though he seemed to have a pretty quiet game.
Brodeur is a good young player but I don't see him making this team right now. Some Jr. A could do him good.
Watts had a shaky night I felt. He needs to pick it up.
Culligan/Slaney/MacNeil all looked like vets in the pre-season should look like. Culligan left in the 3rd and I didn't see him return.
Laberge had an ok game but it'd be nice to see a bit more from a guy fighting for a spot.
Gallant had a nice fight but didn't play much afterwards. I didn't notice if he was on the bench or not. Was he hurt?
Ceccanese and MacDonald really have some nice chemistry. They can be fun to watch.
Chouinard had one of the worst fights i've ever seen in the Q with Allard. I know neither guy is a fighter but that was hilariously bad. Other then that I was not a big fan of him, I felt he was around the perimeter a lot avoiding contact.
Denny was quiet for most of the night.
Not much to say re: St. John's. Hard to follow 2 teams with no names on their backs. Their D seemed really bad for the 1st 20 minutes or so and could not handle our forecheck then they settled things down and slowed things down a lot and kept the Eagles from getting to the net at all in the 3rd.
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Post by jasonmacisaac on Aug 24, 2007 4:57:18 GMT -4
The way I see it Brodeur is a keeper and had the best game out of all defensmen for the eagles. He was a little shaky at the start of the game bt while being shaky he always made the correct safe play. A 17 year old kid who is 6`5 and has a nice smooth stride like that...I can see some NHL scouts taking a look at him as a project in the future. The kid has potential in a year or 2 to be one of the better defensmen in the league with some experience and filling out.
Mariani has the skills to be a defensmen in this league and probably will make this team but man does he need to learn to move the puck. You can't skate as fast as a pass...I swear he feels he is the second coming of Bobby Orr out there.
Dame-Malka didn't impress me at all..not a great skater and not overly strong on the puck. I'd rather give a kid with true potential some icetime. Not a stop gap player.
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Post by hal on Aug 24, 2007 6:40:02 GMT -4
It's still too early ! This Team is gonna be hard to pick ! A few Player Comments : Benda:is this guy's spot guaranteed ? Brodeur:if he gets sent back to JR A,my fear is that we may never hear from him again. Denny:I like a lot of things about Denny....................I just wish he was quicker. Ceccanese:Major Junior Skater ! Major Junior Player ?.......we will have to wait and see ! MacDonald : My gut tells me that he 's our Checking Centre ! Dame-Malka : Whether he makes the Team or not he's better than some of the "Drafted" players. Watts:Jury is still out ! Mariani : I think you gotta keep him "but" U know our fans,every year they pick a Defenceman and absolutly crucify him because Offensive Defenceman make Defensive mistakes ! Piscacek : The Czech threw a nice Check ! Vets : We gave up what again for LaBerge ? I also heard rumblings around the Rink last night that he and another 20 want out ! I'd keep Gallant ! He wants to be here and that is oh so important in a Year like this ! Time will Tell !
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Post by Clubber Lang on Aug 24, 2007 7:22:45 GMT -4
It's still too early ! This Team is gonna be hard to pick ! A few Player Comments : Benda:is this guy's spot guaranteed ? Brodeur:if he gets sent back to JR A,my fear is that we may never hear from him again. Denny:I like a lot of things about Denny....................I just wish he was quicker. Ceccanese:Major Junior Skater ! Major Junior Player ?.......we will have to wait and see ! MacDonald : My gut tells me that he 's our Checking Centre ! Dame-Malka : Whether he makes the Team or not he's better than some of the "Drafted" players. Watts:Jury is still out ! Mariani : I think you gotta keep him "but" U know our fans,every year they pick a Defenceman and absolutly crucify him because Offensive Defenceman make Defensive mistakes ! Piscacek : The Czech threw a nice Check ! Vets : We gave up what again for LaBerge ? I also heard rumblings around the Rink last night that he and another 20 want out ! I'd keep Gallant ! He wants to be here and that is oh so important in a Year like this ! Time will Tell ! Very informative post especially at the end! Lamontagne with be the ginny pig this year! He has is written all over his sweater but has time to shake it off. Laberge looks out of shape and if he doesn't want to be here dump him now. I think the other is Davenport but not sure. Gallant is not a 20 year most team would keep but if we don't have someone someone will take liberties on but he is not in position like Manson was last year surrounded by a lot of talent
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Post by joey on Aug 24, 2007 7:47:35 GMT -4
I heard Brads hurt his back doing the off ice conditioning, having back spasams right now. Good for him if he had good fight with Pennall ,hes a tough kid .How was the Graham fight with Dame-Malka ,looked like Grahams been going after all the heavy weights this preseason.Lol
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Post by Wince on Aug 24, 2007 9:31:22 GMT -4
If anyone has video of those fights, please posts a link for us Foggie fans!
We are shocked to read that JS Allard (#4) got into a fight. How'd that go down?
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Post by Deer on Aug 24, 2007 10:45:13 GMT -4
I too heard rumblings around the rink that Laberge and a certain other 20 may want out. Not sure how much stock to put into them, but this is now the second time I've heard them. Where there's smoke there's fire?
I wouldn't be that surprised if it was true about Laberge........ I always got the impression he was kind of luke-warm about playing here. But I was very surprised to be honest to hear it about the other 20. This was a kid I always perceived as an excellent fit here......... that he was really enjoying his stay in CB and that the fans really enjoyed having him. I'd be very disappointed if it's true that this "other 20" wants out.
But such is junior hockey- they're teenagers, and teenagers are flaky............ so who knows???
At least if these rumours are true, we have a couple of other 20-year-old options to fall back on.......... including one guy who's shown possibly more than many Eagles in recent memory how much he wants to be here.
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Post by eaglewatcher on Aug 24, 2007 10:57:51 GMT -4
I heard Brad did have a lower back injury in camp. After the fight last night we didn't see him any more. He aggravated it and was going to physio today. As for last nights game the foggies only had 5 rookies in the line up and 15 returning players and we had 9 returning players and 11 rookies on the team. I felt we did quite well as a whole still out shot them 27 to 21 . The fights worked out 1-1 and a tie despite the size advantage going to the Fog Devils IMO. I also felt Mr. Bean's comments were pretty much right on.
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Post by IslandersHKY on Aug 24, 2007 10:58:47 GMT -4
I too heard rumblings around the rink that Laberge and a certain other 20 may want out. Not sure how much stock to put into them, but this is now the second time I've heard them. Where there's smoke there's fire? I wouldn't be that surprised if it was true about Laberge........ I always got the impression he was kind of luke-warm about playing here. But I was very surprised to be honest to hear it about the other 20. This was a kid I always perceived as an excellent fit here......... that he was really enjoying his stay in CB and that the fans really enjoyed having him. I'd be very disappointed if it's true that this "other 20" wants out. But such is junior hockey- they're teenagers, and teenagers are flaky............ so who knows??? At least if these rumours are true, we have a couple of other 20-year-old options to fall back on.......... including one guy who's shown possibly more than many Eagles in recent memory how much he wants to be here. Gee could that other unnamed player possibly be Ouellet? If so every team in the league would love to add him to their team. The challenge is that all 20 yr olds (especially the best ones) want to end their Jr career on a high note challenging for a championship. And the perspective of leading a weaker team until chrismas before likely be shipped elsewhere isn't very appealing. The Rocket had similar challenges with their best 20 yr olds the past couple of years, as have other teams. Generally the best way to convince them is to promote the advantages of being a standout player on your team and offer them some control of where they may or may not end up at Christmas. Laberage wouldn't be a big lose as I never really saw him as a great fit on your team anyway.
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Post by Deer on Aug 24, 2007 11:16:16 GMT -4
I too heard rumblings around the rink that Laberge and a certain other 20 may want out. Not sure how much stock to put into them, but this is now the second time I've heard them. Where there's smoke there's fire? I wouldn't be that surprised if it was true about Laberge........ I always got the impression he was kind of luke-warm about playing here. But I was very surprised to be honest to hear it about the other 20. This was a kid I always perceived as an excellent fit here......... that he was really enjoying his stay in CB and that the fans really enjoyed having him. I'd be very disappointed if it's true that this "other 20" wants out. But such is junior hockey- they're teenagers, and teenagers are flaky............ so who knows??? At least if these rumours are true, we have a couple of other 20-year-old options to fall back on.......... including one guy who's shown possibly more than many Eagles in recent memory how much he wants to be here. Gee could that other unnamed player possibly be Ouellet? If so every team in the league would love to add him to their team. The challenge is that all 20 yr olds (especially the best ones) want to end their Jr career on a high note challenging for a championship. And the perspective of leading a weaker team until chrismas before likely be shipped elsewhere isn't very appealing. The Rocket had similar challenges with their best 20 yr olds the past couple of years, as have other teams. Generally the best way to convince them is to promote the advantages of being a standout player on your team and offer them some control of where they may or may not end up at Christmas. Laberage wouldn't be a big lose as I never really saw him as a great fit on your team anyway. It's not Ouellet. Although I definitely see what you're saying about high-end 20s wanting to end their Q career on a contender, and wouldn't blame too many guys for feeling that way.
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Post by hfan on Aug 24, 2007 11:20:43 GMT -4
I know it's pre-season but it's frustrating to watch passes not being made to wide open teammates out in front of the net. On one in the 1st period a player tried a wrap-a-round and in the 3rd, another player went to his backhand stickhandling for some reason and never got the pass out to the front of the net.
The game is sure a lot simpler, more productive and more fun to watch when players play with their heads up and move the puck.
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Post by Clubber Lang on Aug 24, 2007 11:40:10 GMT -4
Gee could that other unnamed player possibly be Ouellet? If so every team in the league would love to add him to their team. The challenge is that all 20 yr olds (especially the best ones) want to end their Jr career on a high note challenging for a championship. And the perspective of leading a weaker team until chrismas before likely be shipped elsewhere isn't very appealing. The Rocket had similar challenges with their best 20 yr olds the past couple of years, as have other teams. Generally the best way to convince them is to promote the advantages of being a standout player on your team and offer them some control of where they may or may not end up at Christmas. Laberage wouldn't be a big lose as I never really saw him as a great fit on your team anyway. It's not Ouellet. Although I definitely see what you're saying about high-end 20s wanting to end their Q career on a contender, and wouldn't blame too many guys for feeling that way. Deer what are your thoughts around Sheppard then? Do you think since will be his last year if he returns would want to go as well? Also since James is not under contract and Minnesota would have to sign him to a rookie contract that would still keep them 3M below that cap and only have 15 forwards signed on their roster with Steve kelly getting 500K ! He just may make this team
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Post by hfan on Aug 24, 2007 12:15:29 GMT -4
I could be wrong, but I see our core group of Eagles from the 2004 draft as a very close knit group that would like to battle together to the end if they are all back this season. They have always played with great intensity, have developed great chemistry and been very proud Eagles.
If James stays up in Minnesota or if things don't go well in the 1st half of the season the situation obviously changes. Then, if they were asked about being traded at Christmas, they might feel much different about not only going to a strong contender but also about helping the Eagles rebuild for the future.
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Post by Deer on Aug 24, 2007 12:42:55 GMT -4
I could be wrong, but I see our core group of Eagles from the 2004 draft as a very close knit group that would like to battle together to the end if they are all back this season. They have always played with great intensity, have developed great chemistry and been very proud Eagles. If James stays up in Minnesota or if things don't go well in the 1st half of the season the situation obviously changes. Then, if they were asked about being traded at Christmas, they might feel much different about not only going to a strong contender but also about helping the Eagles rebuild for the future. To answer Mr. Bean's question, I'm of pretty much the exact same opinion/impressions as hfan on this one.
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Post by brec7 on Aug 24, 2007 15:00:43 GMT -4
Jack nailed pretty much everything with his post IMO. Right now we have to be asking more questions on the blueline because that's where a lot of cuts have to be made, the forwards are almost settled.
I too thought Laberge would be the 3rd 20 this year, but now I'm not so sure. If all things are as they should be (although "rumours" cited in this thread may suggest they aren't) it should be a battle between these guys and right now I can't say Laberge is really winning it. Gallant hasn't really tore it up in the pre-season either, but if neither guy is showing you any offense, give me the guy that can win a fight! I also think Gallant may be able to put up close to Laberge's numbers if he was on somewhat of a scoring line. You do lose something with Laberge's faceoff abilities but that is somewhat nullified by Gauthier being a year older. And of course if Laberge doesn't want to be here, all the more reason to keep Gallant.
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