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Post by bois on May 7, 2010 7:57:52 GMT -4
I predict season ticket sales drop less than 3%
overall attendance will drop by about 6%
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Post by christopher on May 7, 2010 10:10:32 GMT -4
To me, a 2 year deal is the organizations way of saying: Here is your chance to fix the mistake that you've made. If you can't, this is your last 2 years. If you can, we'll re-negotiate.
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Post by baldeagle on May 7, 2010 10:13:24 GMT -4
I find this news totally disgusting. Why in God's name have they rehired this man? Are they deliberately trying to scuttle this team all together. Thing is they know they have the fans over a barrel, there's nothing else to do in the area during the Winter. I am trying to justify spendng the money for season tickets and it's really becoming a problem. As for 2012 Mem cup that has to be a joke. The only answer I can see is a total boycott of the Eagles. WE have to get them where it counts in the wallet. These people are a poor excuse for hockey owners. Let's not put the kids down, it's not their fault. It's pretty hard to cotribute when you don't know what players you will be paired with on the next shift. Check out the Mooseheads...Seniors tickets $309 and a multitude of benifits. Wish we could get some good Jr A hockey going here
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Post by Deer on May 7, 2010 12:53:16 GMT -4
To me, a 2 year deal is the organizations way of saying: Here is your chance to fix the mistake that you've made. If you can't, this is your last 2 years. If you can, we'll re-negotiate. You're giving far too much credit. There has never been any acknowledgment that any mistakes were made, or that there was anything wrong with last year. Mario will be here as long as he feels like it, no matter the results on the ice. You'd think the organization would be wary of letting a coach call the shots again. The last time they did it, with Pascal Vincent, he just left on them when he felt like it.... in the middle of a contract, leaving the board of directors crying bloody murder. "Once bitten, twice shy" applies to most people, but obviously not the Screaming Eagles!
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Post by dt281 on May 7, 2010 13:39:36 GMT -4
Not surprised with this news. Did anyone actually think Paul MacDonald would want to create work for himself by firing Mario and having to go out and look for a replacement?
I think it would have been the perfect timing to find a new gm and coach. It might make it more attractive since we are putting a Mem. cup bid. A Gallant type guy could come in for 2 years, empty the cupboards for 2012 (that is if Mario left anything in the cupboards) and use the exposure to land him a better job. This is exactly what Nolan did. I doubt Nolan would have gone to Moncton if they were in a rebuild instead of hosting that year.
I don't think the board would ever anti up the dough for a Gallant/Nolan type guy. I heard that Fabian was offered a job here before he got the Moncton job, but they were not willing to pay what he wanted. The money I heard he was asking for didn't seem too unreasonable to me. Infact, they could save money by firing Paul M. When is his contract up?
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 7, 2010 14:26:15 GMT -4
I predict season ticket sales drop less than 3% overall attendance will drop by about 6% I agree, I predict slightly higher maybe double your numbers, but nothing the suits won't pass off as just from having a weaker product. The problem with situations like this is that the effects don't take effect instantly and it's pretty hard to make the people you've turned off to buy back in with the same people running things. The problem I see is that other then right here....NOBODY has seen a problem with this teams season that i've seen. Not Mario Durocher, not Paul MacDonald, not 1 member of the board, not 1 sports writer for the Cape Breton Post, and not 1 sports writer from the Chronicle Herald. Why are the fans the only ones seeing this? We get credit when we buy into a solid rebuilding plan with great building blocks and character kids yet when the philosophy changes for no good reason and there are clear negative effects we don't even get the courtesy of an explanation as to why nothing is changing going forward because it's like they think nothing bad happened.
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Post by Deer on May 7, 2010 15:10:45 GMT -4
I predict season ticket sales drop less than 3% overall attendance will drop by about 6% The problem I see is that other then right here....NOBODY has seen a problem with this teams season that i've seen. Not Mario Durocher, not Paul MacDonald, not 1 member of the board, not 1 sports writer for the Cape Breton Post, and not 1 sports writer from the Chronicle Herald. In 2008, during the playoffs against Halifax, Chronicle Herald sports scribe Willy Palov wrote a fantastic article about how well things were being run by the Eagles organization, and how rewarded the fans seemed to feel by the product on the ice. The article was titled, "Lynch's Legacy Is Palpable in Cape Breton" - and that pretty much summed it up. Palov talked about how Greg Lynch had a vision for this team, unfortunately as we all know he passed away before seeing it come to fruition, but how the people running the show picked up where he left off and four years after his death - everything Willy saw at C200 was something Greg would be proud of. I can't imagine Palov could have attended a game this past season and, in good conscience, written the same article. Complacency, and not addressing clear problems = not the way Greg Lynch would have done things. I'm not saying he was perfect and never made mistakes, in fact he deflected blame away from Vincent for the Lessard and Fournier trades and told media they were his ideas. But he was a PROGRESSIVE thinker, and that's what this organization needs if it's ever going to do more than (at best) tread water.
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Post by reality on May 8, 2010 8:21:15 GMT -4
From today's Herald:
"First and foremost, we were always interested in bringing Mario back," said team president Paul MacDonald. "He’s done a good job for us.
Was he watching the same individualistic inconsistent team that I was that also managed to make negative headlines with curfew violations?
"And it’s not just Mario. He’s assembled a good staff as well.
Didn't the team just lose full time assistant, John Hanna?
I have just one other thought today. If the "rumors" are true about Olivier Roy being sent to Lewiston in exchange for one of those "not allowed" parts of Christmas trades, isn't that a really poor way to thank Olivier for 3 years of giving his all to this organization?
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Post by fivehole on May 8, 2010 9:06:10 GMT -4
From today's Herald: "First and foremost, we were always interested in bringing Mario back," said team president Paul MacDonald. "He’s done a good job for us. Was he watching the same individualistic inconsistent team that I was that also managed to make negative headlines with curfew violations? "And it’s not just Mario. He’s assembled a good staff as well. Didn't the team just lose full time assistant, John Hanna? I have just one other thought today. If the "rumors" are true about Olivier Roy being sent to Lewiston in exchange for one of those "not allowed" parts of Christmas trades, isn't that a really poor way to thank Olivier for 3 years of giving his all to this organization? Respect is a two way contract....... the players have no respect for this coach and therefore dont respect rules...........ask the billets parents about last year and the year before..........the shareholders dont care because he is cheap and has some knowledge, while they have none, some of them off to florida on vacation all winter......sad I believe we lose millieur as well. What a boob we have for a coach.
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Post by hal on May 8, 2010 10:35:11 GMT -4
From today's Herald: "First and foremost, we were always interested in bringing Mario back," said team president Paul MacDonald. "He’s done a good job for us. Was he watching the same individualistic inconsistent team that I was that also managed to make negative headlines with curfew violations? "And it’s not just Mario. He’s assembled a good staff as well. Didn't the team just lose full time assistant, John Hanna? I have just one other thought today. If the "rumors" are true about Olivier Roy being sent to Lewiston in exchange for one of those "not allowed" parts of Christmas trades, isn't that a really poor way to thank Olivier for 3 years of giving his all to this organization? Respect is a two way contract....... the players have no respect for this coach and therefore dont respect rules...........ask the billets parents about last year and the year before..........the shareholders dont care because he is cheap and has some knowledge, while they have none, some of them off to florida on vacation all winter......sad I believe we lose millieur as well. What a boob we have for a coach. Ummmmm you forgot General manager also !
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 8, 2010 11:02:43 GMT -4
Respect is a two way contract....... the players have no respect for this coach and therefore dont respect rules...........ask the billets parents about last year and the year before..........the shareholders dont care because he is cheap and has some knowledge, while they have none, some of them off to florida on vacation all winter......sad I believe we lose millieur as well. What a boob we have for a coach. Ummmmm you forgot General manager also ! Exactly. His trading and asset management has been very average as has his ability to judge his teams proper expectations when compared to other top teams in the league. It's no coincidence that the teams in terms of both defensive talent AND depth and fighting for the league championship. Mario Durocher, the general manager, went all in with Mathieu Brodeur as his #1 defenceman. That's a pretty poor decision. And i'm not even going to get into his absolutely laughable and embarrassing comments on how late picks playing Jr. A were going to be contributing players on a Memorial Cup host in 2 years. I don't care what he did in before his stop here(which is all Paul MacDonald keeps referencing), he's been given full reigns and has really done a poor job which should be reflected over the next 2 years. And that's not an insult to the kids in our organization, it's a compliment to the current group of 16 and 17yr olds around the Maritimes who are playing for the competition.
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Post by hal on May 8, 2010 16:38:01 GMT -4
It all seems to roll right off of Paul . Very low risk by the Board and they are content in doing so , no matter what the Fans really feel or think ! Kinda Sad !
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Post by sectionn on May 9, 2010 14:10:46 GMT -4
From the Dogs fans point of view this can only help with Saint John landing the 2012 Mem Cup.
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Post by dogdirt on May 9, 2010 19:38:02 GMT -4
This reminds me somewhat of the situation that took place in Halifax over the last few years when I was a season ticket holder there. The fans in Cape Breton are great and I hope the same situation does not manifest itself where the attendance drops like it did in Halifax because of management decisions.
I was never a fan of Durocher and the few times I saw the Eagles play this year you never knew which team would show up.
Hope the fans can get through this for the sake of Hockey in CB.
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Post by fivehole on May 9, 2010 22:16:58 GMT -4
there is nothing to do in the cape, hell now we dont even have smooth hermans, so everybody goes to the game. \But there are very few young people there, as they have alternatives like gaming and such. The older crowd will always go, but the team should be focusing on the future fans they dont have. Durocher is nothing but a joke and the whole league is having a good laugh right now. The mullet man would not get a job anywhere else in the qmjhl right now, he said he had an offer from europe but those people only look at his record from the past, and the echl as an assistant coach. The reason why he is here is simoly money and nothing else. Nobody on the board cares if we win or lose.
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