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Jun 18, 2010 12:51:55 GMT -4
Post by defresh101 on Jun 18, 2010 12:51:55 GMT -4
Based on the Mooseheads history does not really matter who is our goaltender for the next year and half. We usually don't settle up on a number one goal tender until just before we make our run. Even when goalies are groomed to be our number one very rarely they ever are. Boutin, Churchhill, Leclaire, and to a much lesser extent Roger Kennedy(way lesser extent). Besides Corbiel only drafted goalies that I remember playing up to expectations would be Gigure, Volkoff, and Yetman.( A goalie may have been left out but you get my point). We have seem to do better with grabbing goalies on the fly, and them becoming some of the best and most remomrable keepers to play for the moose. Lavalee, Jeremy Duchesne, and Dalliare are 3 that come to mind that really proved themselves for us. Dilerenzo is debateable. Olivier Pelltier(sp) was planned to be our #1 for our last run, and we remember how that turned out as well. Although not a draft pick it wasnt until just before the play-off run we realized he would not cut it. So it would not surprise me in the least in the 2012 play-offs the goaltender we rely on is neither Corbeil or Terenzio. Although Patuenaude had traded or drafted most of the goallies discussed. I still would not be shocked if history does repeat itself.
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Jun 18, 2010 13:50:58 GMT -4
Post by sharrow on Jun 18, 2010 13:50:58 GMT -4
How about these clear # 1's Dany Dallaire, Guillaume Lavallee and Jeremy Duchesne. Also whose expectations did Corbeil meet ??
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Jun 18, 2010 13:51:29 GMT -4
Post by fireball on Jun 18, 2010 13:51:29 GMT -4
Also it might help the Moosehead goalies if they had a good goaltender coach on staff in past years.
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Jun 18, 2010 13:58:24 GMT -4
Post by defresh101 on Jun 18, 2010 13:58:24 GMT -4
How about these clear # 1's Dany Dallaire, Guillaume Lavallee and Jeremy Duchesne. Also whose expectations did Corbeil meet ?? Are you calling them clear number ones, or suggesting I have. I don't know how clear they were at number 1, but say they prove their worth and held the rank at times. As for Corbeil I agree I don't know where the hype is coming from. I think he should be traded before the hype dies down and his value goes down. I would bet anything he will not be a factor in the 2012 run.
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Jun 18, 2010 14:34:47 GMT -4
Post by bois on Jun 18, 2010 14:34:47 GMT -4
If he's traded one would presume it would be for assets that fit into the 2012 run.. therefore one way or another Corbeil will be a factor toward that run.. I take the bet
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Jun 18, 2010 14:44:41 GMT -4
Post by defresh101 on Jun 18, 2010 14:44:41 GMT -4
If he's traded one would presume it would be for assets that fit into the 2012 run.. therefore one way or another Corbeil will be a factor toward that run.. I take the bet The bet is on. Hope they make a huge trade for Corbeil at Christmas...... if not can't see you winning this bet. If a 20 year old Delmas gets you a 4th or 5th what does a 19th year old Corbeil get you. With the possibility of not being back at 20. Say he gets you a second or a very good 18-19 year old forward. Will that be that much of an impact. Thats a very best case scenario, and of course its an impact but if one of those to options makes that big a difference in our run something went wrong. Corbeil is overrated, but now he is our best assest we are willing to get rid of. The lack of D drafted this year has almost taken Clarke off the market. So this is beefing up the Corbiel trade talks.
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Jun 18, 2010 14:58:30 GMT -4
Post by bois on Jun 18, 2010 14:58:30 GMT -4
Yes a very good 18 or 19 year old forward would be a help to the 2012 run as would a 2nd round pick as a trade asset.... I see no way I can lose this bet actually lol
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Jun 18, 2010 15:09:08 GMT -4
Post by defresh101 on Jun 18, 2010 15:09:08 GMT -4
Yes a very good 18 or 19 year old forward would be a help to the 2012 run as would a 2nd round pick as a trade asset.... I see no way I can lose this bet actually lol Well heres one way...Say you don't get much for Corbeil or make a bad deal. Lets use the Montreal canadiens trade of Halak yesterday as a possible example.
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Jun 18, 2010 15:10:04 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Jun 18, 2010 15:10:04 GMT -4
Yes a very good 18 or 19 year old forward would be a help to the 2012 run as would a 2nd round pick as a trade asset.... I see no way I can lose this bet actually lol Well heres one way...Say you don't get much for Corbeil or make a bad deal. Lets use the Montreal canadiens trade of Halak yesterday as a possible example. They still got Lars Eller...who is going to be a very good player... Like Bois said...either way...he is going to come out on top of this silly bet. Unless Halifax outright releases Corbeil...
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Jun 18, 2010 15:43:21 GMT -4
Post by defresh101 on Jun 18, 2010 15:43:21 GMT -4
Well heres one way...Say you don't get much for Corbeil or make a bad deal. Lets use the Montreal canadiens trade of Halak yesterday as a possible example. They still got Lars Eller...who is going to be a very good player... Like Bois said...either way...he is going to come out on top of this silly bet. Unless Halifax outright releases Corbeil... Yes it is a silly little bet. But you cant say who we get for Corbeil will be a factor in our 2012 run. Thats impossible to state. We could get a player that is a cancer in the dressing room. We could trade him for a player that disrupts the entire tem. We could trade him for a kid that becomes a week 4th liner on a contender. Was Carey Price a factor in the Canadiens run Nooooo. Although he was not traded for thats just an example.
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Jun 18, 2010 15:51:12 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Jun 18, 2010 15:51:12 GMT -4
They still got Lars Eller...who is going to be a very good player... Like Bois said...either way...he is going to come out on top of this silly bet. Unless Halifax outright releases Corbeil... Yes it is a silly little bet. But you cant say who we get for Corbeil will be a factor in our 2012 run. Thats impossible to state. We could get a player that is a cancer in the dressing room. We could trade him for a player that disrupts the entire tem. We could trade him for a kid that becomes a week 4th liner on a contender. Was Carey Price a factor in the Canadiens run Nooooo. Although he was not traded for thats just an example. Whats your defintion of factor? If Halifax acquires a 2nd rd pick than flips that pick for a 19 year old who plays every game and is ppg...is that a factor? What if Halifax trades Corbeil for that same 2nd rd pick and Halifax uses it to draft a player...they call him up for 1 game all season...is that considered a factor?? Its too ambiguous.
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Jun 18, 2010 16:02:53 GMT -4
Post by defresh101 on Jun 18, 2010 16:02:53 GMT -4
What I meant as factor......I dont think in 2012 he will be the goalie we rely on. Or the Goalie we use in the play-offs..ie NOT A FACTOR....as Price was not playing well enough this play-offs to be a big factor if a factor at all for how the Canadiens did with that run. Also I do not believe they will get a huge amount for Corbiel, they will not get a player that makes a huge impact. You guys are right if we trade for a guy who scores one goal guess he was a factor. Guess I did not expect Bois to take the factor comment so literal. But lets be honest. Guess how we want to debat the ambigous comment i stated by saying Factor. But I feel if we one the Memorial cup and the day after I came on here and said one of the big factors we won was because the Corbiel trade...You guys would rip me apart. LaLa what do you think we will get for Corbeil. Do you believe we will get a top 6 forward or a top 4 D.
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Jun 18, 2010 16:06:56 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Jun 18, 2010 16:06:56 GMT -4
There is a shortage of goaltenders around the league...Corbeil would get a top 6 forward or top 4 d quite easily...
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Jun 18, 2010 16:09:55 GMT -4
Post by defresh101 on Jun 18, 2010 16:09:55 GMT -4
Wow...Than i stop this debate, does he need someone to pack his bag. That could be a factor....be stupid not to trade him.
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Jun 18, 2010 18:29:00 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Jun 18, 2010 18:29:00 GMT -4
They still got Lars Eller...who is going to be a very good player... Like Bois said...either way...he is going to come out on top of this silly bet. Unless Halifax outright releases Corbeil... Yes it is a silly little bet. But you cant say who we get for Corbeil will be a factor in our 2012 run. Thats impossible to state. We could get a player that is a cancer in the dressing room. We could trade him for a player that disrupts the entire tem. We could trade him for a kid that becomes a week 4th liner on a contender. Was Carey Price a factor in the Canadiens run Nooooo. Although he was not traded for thats just an example. I might regret jumping in here, but how would what we get for Corbeil NOT play a factor in our next run?? It's almost laughable to suggest. What GM would make such a trade, and not get something to help his team win asap? Yes the player could end up being a cancer or a disruptive player, or they could get injured and miss the entire year, but those are factors that would all be determined after the fact. The trade would be made with the INTENTION of getting a player who would help us win right now.
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