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Jun 18, 2010 18:55:21 GMT -4
Post by fireball on Jun 18, 2010 18:55:21 GMT -4
If the Mooseheads do not get at least what lala stated I think it would be waste to trade him. The goaltender shortage is what will dictate on what they get for him.
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Jun 18, 2010 19:04:13 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Jun 18, 2010 19:04:13 GMT -4
Acadie-Bathurst - Roy, Steeves Baie-Comeau - Dunnett, Giroux Cape Breton - Verronneau, Lacerte Chicoutimi - Gusse, Gibson, Desrosiers Drummondville - Piche, Boucher Gatineau - Clermont, Carignan Halifax - Corbeil, Delmas, Terenzio Lewiston - Champion, Kennedy Moncton - Owen, Trudeau Montreal - Berube, Marcoux PEI - Mosher, Lagace Quebec - Domingue, Appleby Rimouski - Tremblay, Hozjan Rouyn-Noranda - Audette, Noonan Saint John - St-Laurent, Tingley Shawinigan - Girard, Dubeau Val-D'or - Gervais-Chouinard, Tremblay Victoriaville - Mastropietro, Whitney
There isnt necessarly a goalie 'shortage' like I said earlier but there are a few teams with questionable goaltending. The main obstacle I see in making a deal work is you will either need a contender this year who needs a #1 and feels Corbeil is that guy, or you want to look for a team on the rise who would need a #1 for this year and next. Rimouski stands out as a team who could use Corbeil, but they have a pretty good group of 1991's who will be 20's next season so perhaps Rimouski wouldnt need someone like Corbeil.
It wont be easy to make a deal work.
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Jun 18, 2010 19:51:55 GMT -4
Post by Briwhel on Jun 18, 2010 19:51:55 GMT -4
I say Saint John gives you a 3rd or 4th for Delmas and we stop talking about this
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Jun 19, 2010 0:39:22 GMT -4
Post by canbeer on Jun 19, 2010 0:39:22 GMT -4
Rimouski more so but both them and Saint John come across as teams that could use either Corbeil or Delmas.
I'm not sure they'll find the right deal to Corbeil, before Christmas anyways, so I think Delmas will be moved.
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Jun 19, 2010 10:25:26 GMT -4
Post by luke34e on Jun 19, 2010 10:25:26 GMT -4
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Jun 19, 2010 10:52:36 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Jun 19, 2010 10:52:36 GMT -4
So does he want to go by Corbeil-Theriault or Corbeil? I've noticed any articles written by writers who closely follow the Q just refer to him as Mathieu Corbeil, but any NHL or Central Scouting or HF articles always include the Theriault. Anyone know what he prefers to go by?
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Jun 21, 2010 11:24:01 GMT -4
Post by forbesy on Jun 21, 2010 11:24:01 GMT -4
So does he want to go by Corbeil-Theriault or Corbeil? I've noticed any articles written by writers who closely follow the Q just refer to him as Mathieu Corbeil, but any NHL or Central Scouting or HF articles always include the Theriault. Anyone know what he prefers to go by? At HF, we've done both. I've referred to him as Corbeil in articles, because that's what the Mooseheads website lists him as and that's how anyone who I talked to with the organization referred to him as. But his official HF profile is Corbeil-Theriault, because that's what he's listed as by Central Scouting. I'm assuming going forward it will be Corbeil... But didn't think to ask him.
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Jun 21, 2010 14:32:02 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Jun 21, 2010 14:32:02 GMT -4
NHL Central Scouting listed Patrice Bergeron as Patrice Bergeron-Cleary and Julien Ellis as Julien Ellis-Plante. They seem to like going with the legal names, rather than names the players go by.
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Jun 28, 2010 8:50:58 GMT -4
Post by Qfan69 on Jun 28, 2010 8:50:58 GMT -4
Now that the draft has past what's does everyone think? Corbeil went in the 4th while Delmas was a 2nd rounder. Yeah Peter never signed do to injury but still it shows who the NHL thinks is the better goalie. I personal feel the way to go is trade Corbeil and keep Delmas. There has been a lot of people saying that we have to get full value for Corbeil, but what is full value? I personally think a 19 year old 25 goal scorer and maybe a 2nd at best but 3rd rounder would make me happy. I really don't think we would be able to get even that much. Reason being even if we keep him the US kid is going to need to play around 20 games to get use to the Q, leaving around 40 for the other we keep. Now at best this year we are really only looking at maybe 25 to 30 wins. Say Corbeil gets 18 or so of them, that still makes him have a loosing record. How can you ask anymore then that for a loosing record goalie. I think the moose fans think he's worth more then he is.
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Jun 28, 2010 9:31:43 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 28, 2010 9:31:43 GMT -4
Now that the draft has past what's does everyone think? Corbeil went in the 4th while Delmas was a 2nd rounder. Yeah Peter never signed do to injury but still it shows who the NHL thinks is the better goalie. I personal feel the way to go is trade Corbeil and keep Delmas. There has been a lot of people saying that we have to get full value for Corbeil, but what is full value? I personally think a 19 year old 25 goal scorer and maybe a 2nd at best but 3rd rounder would make me happy. I really don't think we would be able to get even that much. Reason being even if we keep him the US kid is going to need to play around 20 games to get use to the Q, leaving around 40 for the other we keep. Now at best this year we are really only looking at maybe 25 to 30 wins. Say Corbeil gets 18 or so of them, that still makes him have a loosing record. How can you ask anymore then that for a loosing record goalie. I think the moose fans think he's worth more then he is. Being drafted before another player doesn't necessarily mean NHL teams consider you a better player, the draft is based on potential, basically where each player could be in 4-5 years. Also, you have to consider that the 2010 draft is considered much deeper in skill than the 2008 draft and that Delmas has not progressed as anticipated the last 2 years, even if you disdregard the injury.
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Jun 28, 2010 10:17:33 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2010 10:17:33 GMT -4
Now that the draft has past what's does everyone think? Corbeil went in the 4th while Delmas was a 2nd rounder. Yeah Peter never signed do to injury but still it shows who the NHL thinks is the better goalie. I personal feel the way to go is trade Corbeil and keep Delmas. There has been a lot of people saying that we have to get full value for Corbeil, but what is full value? I personally think a 19 year old 25 goal scorer and maybe a 2nd at best but 3rd rounder would make me happy. I really don't think we would be able to get even that much. Reason being even if we keep him the US kid is going to need to play around 20 games to get use to the Q, leaving around 40 for the other we keep. Now at best this year we are really only looking at maybe 25 to 30 wins. Say Corbeil gets 18 or so of them, that still makes him have a loosing record. How can you ask anymore then that for a loosing record goalie. I think the moose fans think he's worth more then he is. Being drafted before another player doesn't necessarily mean NHL teams consider you a better player, the draft is based on potential, basically where each player could be in 4-5 years. Also, you have to consider that the 2010 draft is considered much deeper in skill than the 2010 draft and that Delmas has not progressed as anticipated the last 2 years, even if you disdregard the injury. 2010 is much deeper than 2010 ;D
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Jun 28, 2010 10:56:56 GMT -4
Post by luke34e on Jun 28, 2010 10:56:56 GMT -4
Now that the draft has past what's does everyone think? Corbeil went in the 4th while Delmas was a 2nd rounder. Yeah Peter never signed do to injury but still it shows who the NHL thinks is the better goalie. I personal feel the way to go is trade Corbeil and keep Delmas. There has been a lot of people saying that we have to get full value for Corbeil, but what is full value? I personally think a 19 year old 25 goal scorer and maybe a 2nd at best but 3rd rounder would make me happy. I really don't think we would be able to get even that much. Reason being even if we keep him the US kid is going to need to play around 20 games to get use to the Q, leaving around 40 for the other we keep. Now at best this year we are really only looking at maybe 25 to 30 wins. Say Corbeil gets 18 or so of them, that still makes him have a loosing record. How can you ask anymore then that for a loosing record goalie. I think the moose fans think he's worth more then he is. The fact they they were both eligibile to be drafted this year and Corbeil went in the 4th and Delmas didn't get drafted shows who the NHL thinks is better.
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Jun 28, 2010 10:59:18 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 28, 2010 10:59:18 GMT -4
Being drafted before another player doesn't necessarily mean NHL teams consider you a better player, the draft is based on potential, basically where each player could be in 4-5 years. Also, you have to consider that the 2010 draft is considered much deeper in skill than the 2010 draft and that Delmas has not progressed as anticipated the last 2 years, even if you disdregard the injury. 2010 is much deeper than 2010 ;D Fixed! ;D
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Jun 28, 2010 12:04:55 GMT -4
Post by Qfan69 on Jun 28, 2010 12:04:55 GMT -4
Now that the draft has past what's does everyone think? Corbeil went in the 4th while Delmas was a 2nd rounder. Yeah Peter never signed do to injury but still it shows who the NHL thinks is the better goalie. I personal feel the way to go is trade Corbeil and keep Delmas. There has been a lot of people saying that we have to get full value for Corbeil, but what is full value? I personally think a 19 year old 25 goal scorer and maybe a 2nd at best but 3rd rounder would make me happy. I really don't think we would be able to get even that much. Reason being even if we keep him the US kid is going to need to play around 20 games to get use to the Q, leaving around 40 for the other we keep. Now at best this year we are really only looking at maybe 25 to 30 wins. Say Corbeil gets 18 or so of them, that still makes him have a loosing record. How can you ask anymore then that for a loosing record goalie. I think the moose fans think he's worth more then he is. The fact they they were both eligibile to be drafted this year and Corbeil went in the 4th and Delmas didn't get drafted shows who the NHL thinks is better. Well if you know anything about the draft is he doesn't have to be drafted this time around anyteam can just sign him and not waste a pick on him. But no one has anything to say about the fans over value him? Everyone says get back what he's worth what is he worth I really thing and feel nothing more then a player and maybe a draft pick.
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Jun 28, 2010 12:20:39 GMT -4
Post by luke34e on Jun 28, 2010 12:20:39 GMT -4
The fact they they were both eligibile to be drafted this year and Corbeil went in the 4th and Delmas didn't get drafted shows who the NHL thinks is better. Well if you know anything about the draft is he doesn't have to be drafted this time around anyteam can just sign him and not waste a pick on him. But no one has anything to say about the fans over value him? Everyone says get back what he's worth what is he worth I really thing and feel nothing more then a player and maybe a draft pick. I know plenty about the draft, he can't get signed until after the draft so if a team really valued him he would have been drafted to ensure they had his rights rather than wait. A team could have just not wasted a pick on Corbeil too and waited to sign him but Columbus clearly knew he wouldn't last.
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