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Aug 19, 2010 10:49:24 GMT -4
Post by canbeer on Aug 19, 2010 10:49:24 GMT -4
I like Davis's physicality, of course, but I'm concerned that his reckless abandon would be a bigger liability than what he would bring to the table. He was going for the hit regardless of the situation, and wasn't exactly the cleanest of hitters (as evidenced by that rather nasty elbow on Boudreau). I also wasn't too keen on, late in the second period, as (I think it was) Desmond was fumbling with the puck at the blue-line without any backup, Davis skated straight past a loose puck (which, if he'd picked it up, he would have had a clear-cut breakaway), and leveled the dman along the boards instead, giving enough time for the defensive partner to come and clear the zone. Of course, the sample size has been very small, and one should not be too hasty to jump to judgment, but I'm just concerned about his hockey sense is all. Of the bubble guys, I thought McGuigan was the best of the bunch. He was playing a very gritty game, finishing checks when the time was right, hard on the back check, and looked ok with the puck. Him being only 18 should work to his advantage as well (in the hopes that we're through carrying borderline 19-year-olds in the bottom six forward positions). I could see him snagging a 12th or 13th forward spot, assuming he continues to play the same sort of game of not trying to do too much, but doing what he does well. Wigginton/Belanger/MacDonald seemed to be out there every other shift in the second period, after what seemed to be a fairly pedestrian first for the group. Good patience by MacDonald outwaiting the goaltender on his second marker. Regarding Davis, the Moose have lacked some of that last year up front. They had that component on the backend with Hannay, Clarke and Metcalfe but the forwards were a bit tame. I'd rather him take it a bit easy on his possible teammates but I look forward to seeing him in the actual preseason games. The fact that he's not a bad player could make he very effective in that role. I'm a fan of McGuigan, he can play a regular shift and would help add some physical play up front. But again there's probably around 16-17 forwards that could play a role... and that doesn't include any of the borderline 19 year olds. The good thing is that the borderline 18 year olds looked better than the 19 year olds.
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Aug 19, 2010 10:50:25 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Aug 19, 2010 10:50:25 GMT -4
Brad MacDonald looked really good last night. Had good jump and he was faster then I remembered him last year. He's looked at as a possible "bubble" guy at the start of camp, but I see him settling into a 3rd line checking/chip in on offense guy when it's all said and done. He battled not playing and injuries last season, so it was tough to get a full read on him. I don't think he ever had his conditioning up to snuff either last year. But he's healthy now, and presumably worked hard off the ice this summer, so I think we'll see better days ahead for him.
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Aug 19, 2010 10:53:48 GMT -4
Post by ballzz on Aug 19, 2010 10:53:48 GMT -4
Kinda what I expected for the 1st day.
If Day 1 was an indication on goaltending then I think Magnan (didn't seem sharp on the angles) and Roy-Boulet (just seemed overmatched) are more than likely the first cuts from camp. Chisholm is probably a keeper until NHL camp returnees are back. Delmas and Corbeil looked good but definitely had the easier period because there seemed to be a lot a of nerves and rust in the first. The third was definitely the toughest period and Terenzio looked solid and probably had the save of the night on Clarke's penalty shot.
Dimitruk seems to know he has the longest shot of the 20's (unless Amyot is traded) and seemed to be tryin to do too much.
Clarke seemed to be playing around a little. He was looking for hits and trying to score. Not sure he was going at 100% although the same could be said of Abeltshauser and Sawyer. Gillard was solid.
Bishop and Lewis looked solid with a slight edge to Lewis in his play. Desmond and Kavanaugh looked the most promising of the remaining defence with Desmerais and Dawes not far behind. Pelletier and Legay just didn't seem Q caliber.
The forwards were harder to guage since it seems to take a little longer for them to shake the rust. Some of the veterans that are almost assured spots were probably giving a 75% effort (Grant, Randall, Lemieux and Gelinas). Although Desjardins and Andrews seemed to be working hard. Veterans that seem need to show more to earn spots that seemed to be going less than 100% were Bety, Wigginton and Costello. Costello seemed to be the worse of the bunch and I don't understand why. Hope he's not taking the camp for granted.
MacDonald, Ciampini, Ryan, Ashley, McGuigan, Boudreau and Turbide seemed to be putting in the effort to try and make the team.
Souligny, Davis, Warner and Dube were noticable and I would think are in the mix. Souligny had the most skill and I would like to see some of the agitator qualities that lalalaprise mentioned he had (at least I think it was lalalaprise). I agree that Davis needs work in the hockey sense category. He might be battling McGuigan for a spot and I don't see him getting it over McGuigan. Dube showed some spark. Warner needs to show a little more and he definitely got under the skin of his opponents. Plus Warner was involved in one of the highlights of the night (although not for the right reasons see last comment).
On the outside looking in were Nickerson, Bernard, Trider, Squires and Belanger. They will need huge improvements to make the team from what I saw.
One of the highlights or entertaining moments of the night came in the third period. It appeared Desmond and Warner were kinda tied up in the red team's defensive zone and Warner went to the ice. From my perspective it looked like a dive and I think the red team felt the same way as they were all giving him the gears especially Clarke (not a big surprise). Desmond gave him a good bump on his way to the blue line for the penalty shot chase and then when the ref blew the whistle for the penalty shot, Desmond got a great jump and took the puck from Warner before he could react. The red team was up and cheering and let Warner know he was embarrassed. It was a nice play for Desmond and not a great moment for Warner. The last thing a shit disturber wants to do is give the other team a shot of momentum and I think that's what Warner did.
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Aug 19, 2010 11:27:07 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Aug 19, 2010 11:27:07 GMT -4
Souligny, Davis, Warner and Dube were noticable and I would think are in the mix. Souligny had the most skill and I would like to see some of the agitator qualities that lalalaprise mentioned he had (at least I think it was lalalaprise). I think Souligny is more controlled...he isnt going to chirp like Warner, or run guys over like Davis but he is far more skilled, has more hockey sense, he was a ppg in AAA last year...which is no small feat. He scored a beauty, back-hand shortside top shelf goal. I think it comes down to what kind of player the team wants as the 13th or 14th forward... Dube sure can skate...hard to believe he only had 4 goals in AAA last year. He is light and gets pushed around but he was noticeable out there.
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Aug 19, 2010 11:32:33 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Aug 19, 2010 11:32:33 GMT -4
Would it be accurate to say Souligny and Turbide are similar players? Both have good size, good skill, and can play both ways.
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Aug 19, 2010 11:38:19 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2010 11:38:19 GMT -4
Would it be accurate to say Souligny and Turbide are similar players? Both have good size, good skill, and can play both ways. They definitely look alike out there, big, righthanded shots; I felt Turbide looked very tentative early last night, maybe the pressure is on him as a higher pick while Souligny seems to know he is in a huge battle and knows his chances are slim so he has to give it his all to make the team.
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Aug 19, 2010 11:44:07 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Aug 19, 2010 11:44:07 GMT -4
Would it be accurate to say Souligny and Turbide are similar players? Both have good size, good skill, and can play both ways. The thing thats frustrating about Turbide is he is 6'02 but he doesnt always use it, not to say he is soft, but he isnt as involved. Im pretty certain that most teams preferred Turbide over Souligny, but they arent that far apart in my opinion. All 4 (Turbide, Souligny, Davis, Warner) are below average skaters...with poor foot speed...it seems Halifax doesnt have an issue with this as they havent strayed away from guys with average at best skating.
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Aug 19, 2010 11:50:01 GMT -4
Post by canbeer on Aug 19, 2010 11:50:01 GMT -4
Souligny, Davis, Warner and Dube were noticable and I would think are in the mix. Souligny had the most skill and I would like to see some of the agitator qualities that lalalaprise mentioned he had (at least I think it was lalalaprise). I think Souligny is more controlled...he isnt going to chirp like Warner, or run guys over like Davis but he is far more skilled, has more hockey sense, he was a ppg in AAA last year...which is no small feat. He scored a beauty, back-hand shortside top shelf goal. I think it comes down to what kind of player the team wants as the 13th or 14th forward... Dube sure can skate...hard to believe he only had 4 goals in AAA last year. He is light and gets pushed around but he was noticeable out there. I too was shocked when I looked at Dube's numbers last night. The kid was flying out there... looks like he might earn himself a couple preseason games anyway. Davis had some great numbers as well last year and when you're 3 toughest players are all on D I think you need to think about adding forwards with toughness to offset that. You don't want D always sitting in the box when the games get rough. But I did like Souligny last night... beauty goal. I think last night just makes the last few cuts look even harder.
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Aug 19, 2010 12:35:16 GMT -4
Post by canbeer on Aug 19, 2010 12:35:16 GMT -4
Would it be accurate to say Souligny and Turbide are similar players? Both have good size, good skill, and can play both ways. The thing thats frustrating about Turbide is he is 6'02 but he doesnt always use it, not to say he is soft, but he isnt as involved. Im pretty certain that most teams preferred Turbide over Souligny, but they arent that far apart in my opinion. All 4 (Turbide, Souligny, Davis, Warner) are below average skaters...with poor foot speed...it seems Halifax doesnt have an issue with this as they havent strayed away from guys with average at best skating. What did you think of Desmarais?
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Aug 19, 2010 12:40:48 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Aug 19, 2010 12:40:48 GMT -4
The thing thats frustrating about Turbide is he is 6'02 but he doesnt always use it, not to say he is soft, but he isnt as involved. Im pretty certain that most teams preferred Turbide over Souligny, but they arent that far apart in my opinion. All 4 (Turbide, Souligny, Davis, Warner) are below average skaters...with poor foot speed...it seems Halifax doesnt have an issue with this as they havent strayed away from guys with average at best skating. What did you think of Desmarais? Solid...quiet...didnt notice him unless you were watching for him, which for a stay-at-home dman is fine. He has good size, mobile, makes safe plays...what you see is what you get...pretty much what I saw of him last year.
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Aug 19, 2010 12:58:39 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Aug 19, 2010 12:58:39 GMT -4
I thought Desmarais outplayed Bishop.
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Aug 19, 2010 13:06:33 GMT -4
Post by Jacques Strap on Aug 19, 2010 13:06:33 GMT -4
The Desjardins line was great. I liked what I saw of Turbide and also I thought Trey Lewis looked pretty good. I am excited about this team and I am wondering where we are going to find positions for all of these guys. There are a lot of guys that I want to make this team.
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Aug 19, 2010 13:40:27 GMT -4
Post by sharrow on Aug 19, 2010 13:40:27 GMT -4
I'm with you Jacques, I'm of the opinion that if Dube has a good showing against the Seadogs on the weekend he could have a spot on this team and I would see him as primarly a penalty killer who could fillin on other lines with injuries he can skate fast, is always pursuing the puck and working hard. also Brad MacDonald should return if he continues his strong showing, I was impressed by Andrew Ryan as well. We will see tonite if these guys are one night wonders or can be consistent and the wekend games are crucial for the Quebec players because I think they have to be back in Quebec on Monday to register for school
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Aug 19, 2010 14:26:08 GMT -4
Post by Jacques Strap on Aug 19, 2010 14:26:08 GMT -4
I'm with you Jacques, I'm of the opinion that if Dube has a good showing against the Seadogs on the weekend he could have a spot on this team and I would see him as primarly a penalty killer who could fillin on other lines with injuries he can skate fast, is always pursuing the puck and working hard. also Brad MacDonald should return if he continues his strong showing, I was impressed by Andrew Ryan as well. We will see tonite if these guys are one night wonders or can be consistent and the wekend games are crucial for the Quebec players because I think they have to be back in Quebec on Monday to register for school Yes I noticed that Dube seem to have a little mean in him too. If I remember correctly he got into a couple of pushing matches infront of the net. Where did we get this guy again?
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Aug 19, 2010 14:37:53 GMT -4
Post by lalalaprise on Aug 19, 2010 14:37:53 GMT -4
I'm with you Jacques, I'm of the opinion that if Dube has a good showing against the Seadogs on the weekend he could have a spot on this team and I would see him as primarly a penalty killer who could fillin on other lines with injuries he can skate fast, is always pursuing the puck and working hard. also Brad MacDonald should return if he continues his strong showing, I was impressed by Andrew Ryan as well. We will see tonite if these guys are one night wonders or can be consistent and the wekend games are crucial for the Quebec players because I think they have to be back in Quebec on Monday to register for school Yes I noticed that Dube seem to have a little mean in him too. If I remember correctly he got into a couple of pushing matches infront of the net. Where did we get this guy again? 9th rd, Magog Qc Midget AAA
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