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Post by purpleflash on Aug 29, 2010 8:21:12 GMT -4
I like Clarke suckering these guys in. They'll figure out that he's changed his tune and realise he's not going to do anything overtly stupid. It'll pass.
Terenzio had a goalie coach in Shattuck, just can't remember his name at this time. Agree he got caught on that paddle save. He's said he's still getting used to the speed of the league but I like that he never quit on the play.
I thought Desmarias looks a little green, which he is. He kept whiffing on passes and while he was stick handling. Potential is there though.
I liked Ciampini burying that puck with authority. Great finish.
4th line was fun to watch but Warner and Ryan outskated Davis. I liked Davis earlier in the training camp but he seems to have lost some intensity. Not sure what it is, really.
I was never a huge Bety fan, but he scored some huge points with me last night. Great effort!
My Sunday morning coffee opinion. Have a good one.
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Post by Haligonian on Aug 29, 2010 8:22:50 GMT -4
Warner and Davis know they're ass is/was on the line this weekend and they didn't scrap. That surprised me. I doubt it was for lack of trying
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Post by justmy02 on Aug 29, 2010 10:07:47 GMT -4
I like Clarke suckering these guys in. They'll figure out that he's changed his tune and realise he's not going to do anything overtly stupid. It'll pass. Terenzio had a goalie coach in Shattuck, just can't remember his name at this time. Agree he got caught on that paddle save. He's said he's still getting used to the speed of the league but I like that he never quit on the play. I thought Desmarias looks a little green, which he is. He kept whiffing on passes and while he was stick handling. Potential is there though. I liked Ciampini burying that puck with authority. Great finish. 4th line was fun to watch but Warner and Ryan outskated Davis. I liked Davis earlier in the training camp but he seems to have lost some intensity. Not sure what it is, really. I was never a huge Bety fan, but he scored some huge points with me last night. Great effort! My Sunday morning coffee opinion. Have a good one. i don't mind Clarke suckering these guys in. what i won't like seeing is Clarke doin' the funky chicken on the ice when he gets the inevitable cheapshot thats coming.
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Post by eastcoastfan on Aug 29, 2010 10:23:07 GMT -4
He likely hasnt had a goalie coach, so working with someone everyday should benefit him. So who is working with the Moose goalies? Is it Eric Raymond as Palov reported back at the draft? There's no goalie coach listed on the Moose site. Brad MacCharles is definitely out.
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Post by zapp on Aug 29, 2010 14:11:58 GMT -4
i never like to write off a young kid but bishop looks more and more like a blown pick every day. kid also screams bloody murder for the puck whenever he thinks he's open ... would drive me nuts if i was a vet.
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Post by lalalaprise on Aug 29, 2010 14:35:19 GMT -4
He likely hasnt had a goalie coach, so working with someone everyday should benefit him. So who is working with the Moose goalies? Is it Eric Raymond as Palov reported back at the draft? There's no goalie coach listed on the Moose site. Brad MacCharles is definitely out. Cant remember his name but the Moose have a goalie coach...and apparently Shattuck had one too, so my earlier comment about Terenzio not having a goalie coach prior to now was false.
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Post by canbeer on Aug 29, 2010 15:00:24 GMT -4
The played ok but just couldn't put anything together around the net. The Moose made their goalie look good in the first period missing some easy goals (a couple posts and missed open nets... should have been 2 or 3 to nothing) and in the 2nd and 3rd Lacerte played well. That being said the Moose goalies also played well. Delmas wasn't tested much but Terenzio made several nice saves and killed some big penalties when CB was pressing. That paddle save and the glove save on Shaw were pretty sweet. The game seemed to be mostly controlled by the Moose but some calls and non-calls got CB back in it late. How that slew-foot on Abeltshauser sending him into the boards isn't a penalty I'm not sure. The 4th line didn't get much ice with all the penalties and it being close but they were fun to watch (Warner-Ryan-Davis). Warner and Davis were trying to run everything over and Ryan really had a solid game and showed some good skill. I'm not sure how he's going to get icetime but he played well and is apparently on the team. Abeltshauser I thought played well tonight. Gelinas is really starting to play well... I like the energy of Desjardins-Andrews-Ashley but it doesn't seem to lead to anything. Anyways the lines were definitely a little different tonight. It would be nice to see Grant and Randell get going a bit as both have been quiet offensively in camp. The PP though did look pretty good at times and had lots of scoring chances. Bety and Lemieux were a force on the PK. Not sure where they're going to put all of these forwards hearing who has made the team. I feel for some of the 18 years olds that may not even find themselves on this team... and possibly for some of the players that find themselves on this team but have issues getting icetime. I certainly hope a guy like Boudreau doesn't find himself as a healthy scratch more than a handful of time this year... he's been one of my favorites in camp this year and I think could really put up some good numbers in this league. But as for right now the scoring is still a bit MIA... but at least they're getting a lot of chances. How did Desmarais play? Also Ciampini? Sounded like he showed good finish roofing his goal. Desmarais continues to play pretty well in camp. He had the odd mistake or rushed play last night but he is aggressive down low and along the boards... has a little meanness/physical side to his game that I think will shine as he gets older and stronger. He looked solid but I say send him down... the Moose are still trying to develop and grow guys like Bishop, Lewis and Hannay and adding another to that mix seems like a mistake IMO for the group of them. One other thing is that Desmarais also got a bit of PP time with Bishop last night as well and while he doesn't look really offensive it looks like he'll have a well rounded game... he was even sneaking to the net on the far side on a couple PPs. Ciampini had some flashes as did that line. His goal was on and off his stick in a flash... he shot the puck a little more but I think hit post and missed one wide. Didn't look out of place with Grant and Gelinas.
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Post by canbeer on Aug 29, 2010 15:11:28 GMT -4
That being said the Moose goalies also played well. Delmas wasn't tested much but Terenzio made several nice saves and killed some big penalties when CB was pressing. That paddle save and the glove save on Shaw were pretty sweet. I'm not sure how he's going to get icetime but he played well and is apparently on the team. Not sure where they're going to put all of these forwards hearing who has made the team. I feel for some of the 18 years olds that may not even find themselves on this team... and possibly for some of the players that find themselves on this team but have issues getting icetime. I certainly hope a guy like Boudreau doesn't find himself as a healthy scratch more than a handful of time this year... he's been one of my favorites in camp this year and I think could really put up some good numbers in this league. I agree with the icetime thing...its not that Ryan has played badly, or doesnt deserve to make the team, he does...its just going to be tough to find everyone icetime and I have a feeling Boudreau may suffer because of it, because I doubt they are going to sit Turbide...and if Ryan is on the team than I dont see a point in having Souligny here as he for sure wont get into many games. About Terenzio's paddle save...it was a highlight reel stop but he fucked up playing the 1 on 1 with the guy, got caught completely out of position and had to make a miracle do or die save. Terenzio will never be a Corey Crawford type mechanical butterfly goalie, but he is also super aggressive and he is going to get burned once the skilled guys realize he bites on every single move. The kid has great reflexes and hes quick, but he commits too early. He likely hasnt had a goalie coach, so working with someone everyday should benefit him. That's what worries me a Boudreau I feel has been a good surprise in camp. Maybe surprise isn't the right word but he shows some solid offensive vision and upside. Oh yeah... Terenzio was completely out of position and 9 out of 10 times that's an easy goal but like you said great reflexes. He is a bit all over the place but has some good natural abilities and the main weakness in his game is something that can be worked on.
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Post by lalalaprise on Aug 29, 2010 15:33:13 GMT -4
Well we can kind of group the players in groups of guys who wont be a regular healthy scratch and guys who will be in the regular rotation. There are certain players on this team who wont be in the regular rotation of being scratched....like I said it may happen from time to time, but the following guys will all play 60+ games if they are healthy and if they have no other commitments like U17 (Ciampini for example) or U20 (Frk for example). Also lets assume Frk is here...
Guys who wont be in the rotation:
Grant, 20 Bety, 20 Randell, 19 Gelinas, 18 Desjardins, 18 Lemieux, 18 Frk, 17 Ashley, 17 Andrews, 17 Ciampini, 16
Guys who will likely be in the rotation:
Turbide, 17 Boudreau, 17 Souligny, 17 Ryan, 16
Thats 14 players and we also have Bradley MacDonald, who im not sure where he stands. Lets assume he is cut for a second. That is 10 regulars, and 4 guys for 2 spots...that is pretty much 33 games each over the course of the regular season...assume some injuries and that goes up to maybe 40 games each. If MacDonald is in the mix as well than thats even less icetime. Also this assumes we never go with 7 d and 11 f, which may happen as we need to get Bishop and Lewis their icetime as well, and if Desmarais is kept that makes the situation even worse.
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Post by canbeer on Aug 29, 2010 15:53:38 GMT -4
Looks like they went with a younger or less expereinced lineup today. It looks like no Grant, Bety, Randell, Abeltshauser, Amyot, Andrews or Ashley.
The Q site was screwing up a bit but it looks like it's 2-2 after one and Ryan with two Moose goals. MacDougall was their two.
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Post by Murph on Aug 29, 2010 16:25:36 GMT -4
Well we can kind of group the players in groups of guys who wont be a regular healthy scratch and guys who will be in the regular rotation. There are certain players on this team who wont be in the regular rotation of being scratched....like I said it may happen from time to time, but the following guys will all play 60+ games if they are healthy and if they have no other commitments like U17 (Ciampini for example) or U20 (Frk for example). Also lets assume Frk is here... Guys who wont be in the rotation: Grant, 20 Bety, 20 Randell, 19 Gelinas, 18 Desjardins, 18 Lemieux, 18 Frk, 17 Ashley, 17 Andrews, 17 Ciampini, 16 Guys who will likely be in the rotation: Turbide, 17 Boudreau, 17 Souligny, 17 Ryan, 16 Thats 14 players and we also have Bradley MacDonald, who im not sure where he stands. Lets assume he is cut for a second. That is 10 regulars, and 4 guys for 2 spots...that is pretty much 33 games each over the course of the regular season...assume some injuries and that goes up to maybe 40 games each. If MacDonald is in the mix as well than thats even less icetime. Also this assumes we never go with 7 d and 11 f, which may happen as we need to get Bishop and Lewis their icetime as well, and if Desmarais is kept that makes the situation even worse. Why isn't Ciampini in the rotation? Even touted rookies in the past have had their share of scratches. I would say he and Boudreau will dress much more than the others. Figure Frk doesn't play until October..... injuries and suspensions.... and almost all the guys will get a good amount of icetime between the beginning of the year and the trade period. It's only a problem after the trade period.... but Halifax then has time to resolve it. Perhaps Grant gets moved.... perhaps one or two guys suffer long term injuries.... Even with all those bodies, it's only two guys sitting. If you want to assume there's at least 1 player hurt at all times, then the group of Ryan, Souligny and Turbide still plays 2 out of 3 games (which sees Ciampini and Boudreau dress as regulars)
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Post by lalalaprise on Aug 29, 2010 16:34:10 GMT -4
Well we can kind of group the players in groups of guys who wont be a regular healthy scratch and guys who will be in the regular rotation. There are certain players on this team who wont be in the regular rotation of being scratched....like I said it may happen from time to time, but the following guys will all play 60+ games if they are healthy and if they have no other commitments like U17 (Ciampini for example) or U20 (Frk for example). Also lets assume Frk is here... Guys who wont be in the rotation: Grant, 20 Bety, 20 Randell, 19 Gelinas, 18 Desjardins, 18 Lemieux, 18 Frk, 17 Ashley, 17 Andrews, 17 Ciampini, 16 Guys who will likely be in the rotation: Turbide, 17 Boudreau, 17 Souligny, 17 Ryan, 16 Thats 14 players and we also have Bradley MacDonald, who im not sure where he stands. Lets assume he is cut for a second. That is 10 regulars, and 4 guys for 2 spots...that is pretty much 33 games each over the course of the regular season...assume some injuries and that goes up to maybe 40 games each. If MacDonald is in the mix as well than thats even less icetime. Also this assumes we never go with 7 d and 11 f, which may happen as we need to get Bishop and Lewis their icetime as well, and if Desmarais is kept that makes the situation even worse. Why isn't Ciampini in the rotation? Even touted rookies in the past have had their share of scratches. I would say he and Boudreau will dress much more than the others. Figure Frk doesn't play until October..... injuries and suspensions.... and almost all the guys will get a good amount of icetime between the beginning of the year and the trade period. It's only a problem after the trade period.... but Halifax then has time to resolve it. Perhaps Grant gets moved.... perhaps one or two guys suffer long term injuries.... Even with all those bodies, it's only two guys sitting. If you want to assume there's at least 1 player hurt at all times, then the group of Ryan, Souligny and Turbide still plays 2 out of 3 games (which sees Ciampini and Boudreau dress as regulars) Because I feel he will play closer to 66 games than 33....much closer...he is going to play over 55. I dont see Cam scratching him at all to be honest. Also that is assuming MacDonald is cut...which he isnt yet, so Halifax may go with 15 forwards to start with. Things happen over the course of the season and guys generally play more and I dont have an issue keeping Ryan...if a guy like Souligny was sent to Jr A. I dont see a point in keeping both, but thats me.
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Post by canbeer on Aug 29, 2010 16:37:31 GMT -4
Did they cut the season from 68 to 66 this year?
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Post by lalalaprise on Aug 29, 2010 16:40:14 GMT -4
Did they cut the season from 68 to 66 this year? I think so...I cant remember, but I heard they were when they went to the 3 division alignment. EDIT: Looks like its still 68 according to the sked on the Q site.
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Post by Gman on Aug 29, 2010 17:42:06 GMT -4
Ouch, CB lit up our goalies today. Corbeil 3GA on 12 shots. Need him to be better.
Nice to see Ryan pot a couple- trying to solidify his spot.
What the hell? No assists given on 3 Moose goals? Were they all stolen pucks?
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