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Post by Deer on Sept 7, 2010 9:53:08 GMT -4
Obviously hal meant Nicholas Deschamps! Although I don't buy the idea that Lagace scored all those goals ONLY because he was on a line with Deschamps. It helped, but I can't imagine he was completely riding the guy's coattails... probably just a nice chemistry together that didn't exist with anyone here in CB.
I do however agree that Lagace and Adam were a disaster together because both are shoot-first players. As Milhouse would have put it in a bit of an obscure Simpsons reference, "they were like two positively-charged ions!"
Carey - with all due respect, I don't see how raw stats like 30 goals in 35 junior games at all proves Lagace might be ready for pro hockey.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 7, 2010 10:11:47 GMT -4
Obviously hal meant Nicholas Deschamps! Although I don't buy the idea that Lagace scored all those goals ONLY because he was on a line with Deschamps. It helped, but I can't imagine he was completely riding the guy's coattails... probably just a nice chemistry together that didn't exist with anyone here in CB. I do however agree that Lagace and Adam were a disaster together because both are shoot-first players. As Milhouse would have put it in a bit of an obscure Simpsons reference, "they were like two positively-charged ions!" Carey - with all due respect, I don't see how raw stats like 30 goals in 35 junior games at all proves Lagace might be ready for pro hockey. The point I'm making is that beacuse nothing clicked in CB, you can't just say the guy did not show is not "remotely close" to ready for the pro game. His situation is pretty similar to Marchand's when he went to Halifax and things went sour.
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Post by bois on Sept 7, 2010 10:14:10 GMT -4
I'm guessing Lagace will be back in the Q and dealt to offset his cost to CB..... he is a proven scorer who just didn't fit in with CB for some reason.... but he will have trade value as a marquis 20 year old at some point during this season..... Rimouski would be a great fit for him I bet... they may need a goalie but they will likely just address that at Christmas time and go for a 19 year old...
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Post by hal on Sept 7, 2010 11:34:59 GMT -4
Obviously hal meant Nicholas Deschamps! Although I don't buy the idea that Lagace scored all those goals ONLY because he was on a line with Deschamps. It helped, but I can't imagine he was completely riding the guy's coattails... probably just a nice chemistry together that didn't exist with anyone here in CB. I do however agree that Lagace and Adam were a disaster together because both are shoot-first players. As Milhouse would have put it in a bit of an obscure Simpsons reference, "they were like two positively-charged ions!" Carey - with all due respect, I don't see how raw stats like 30 goals in 35 junior games at all proves Lagace might be ready for pro hockey. Yeah that Guy ! Thanx Deer !
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Post by Deer on Sept 7, 2010 12:17:00 GMT -4
Obviously hal meant Nicholas Deschamps! Although I don't buy the idea that Lagace scored all those goals ONLY because he was on a line with Deschamps. It helped, but I can't imagine he was completely riding the guy's coattails... probably just a nice chemistry together that didn't exist with anyone here in CB. I do however agree that Lagace and Adam were a disaster together because both are shoot-first players. As Milhouse would have put it in a bit of an obscure Simpsons reference, "they were like two positively-charged ions!" Carey - with all due respect, I don't see how raw stats like 30 goals in 35 junior games at all proves Lagace might be ready for pro hockey. The point I'm making is that beacuse nothing clicked in CB, you can't just say the guy did not show is not "remotely close" to ready for the pro game. His situation is pretty similar to Marchand's when he went to Halifax and things went sour. I lived in Halifax when Marchand was there, saw that Moose team regularly, and found the Marchand/Lagace situations to be different. Watching Marchand in Halifax, you could still see that he was an elite talent - just one that didn't fit in on that Mooseheads team. Kind of like Ilya Kovalchuk in New Jersey this past season. You could still see Kovalchuk's skill, he was just a square peg in a round hole (maybe that'll change now that he's there for the long haul, who knows). Watching Lagace in Cape Breton, you saw a guy who looked completely lost and wondered how in the heck he scored as many goals as he did in Chicoutimi. Yes, part of the reason for that was the same problem Marchand had in Hali - the chemistry just wasn't there with CB teammates. But you could also see that the guy had clear holes in his game, and they were exposed when he was put into a situation of being a hired gun for a contending team. Very much like Nicolas Corbeil when acquired as a hired gun for CB in 2003-2004.
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Post by Clubber Lang on Sept 7, 2010 12:59:33 GMT -4
I'm guessing Lagace will be back in the Q and dealt to offset his cost to CB..... he is a proven scorer who just didn't fit in with CB for some reason.... but he will have trade value as a marquis 20 year old at some point during this season..... Rimouski would be a great fit for him I bet... they may need a goalie but they will likely just address that at Christmas time and go for a 19 year old... There doesn't seem to be as much elite goaltenders this year compared to last year. Allen, Poulin, Riopel seemed to be the best in the business. I think if Acadie ends up shitting the bed they would get a huge return for Roy.
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Post by Hat Trick Swayze's on Sept 7, 2010 13:14:29 GMT -4
I'm guessing Lagace will be back in the Q and dealt to offset his cost to CB..... he is a proven scorer who just didn't fit in with CB for some reason.... but he will have trade value as a marquis 20 year old at some point during this season..... Rimouski would be a great fit for him I bet... they may need a goalie but they will likely just address that at Christmas time and go for a 19 year old... There doesn't seem to be as much elite goaltenders this year compared to last year. Allen, Poulin, Riopel seemed to be the best in the business. I think if Acadie ends up shitting the bed they would get a huge return for Roy. I could actually see Roy making the Oilers farm team this year, He played fair last year with them and I mean when Your NHL Team finishes last along with your AHL team you have BIG problems, 5 Taylor Halls wont solve that situation IMO, Also it helps that Crappy Builin, Wont see much Ice time this year, And Martin Gerber Really? THis team really has nothing to loose and wouldnt shock me any if they take a gamble and he is in the minors this year....
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 7, 2010 13:15:46 GMT -4
There doesn't seem to be as much elite goaltenders this year compared to last year. Allen, Poulin, Riopel seemed to be the best in the business. I think if Acadie ends up shitting the bed they would get a huge return for Roy. I could actually see Roy making the Oilers farm team this year, He played fair last year with them and I mean when Your NHL Team finishes last along with your AHL team you have BIG problems, 5 Taylor Halls wont solve that situation IMO, Also it helps that Crappy Builin, Wont see much Ice time this year, And Martin Gerber Really? THis team really has nothing to loose and wouldnt shock me any if they take a gamble and he is in the minors this year.... OBR can't play for the Oilers farm team, unless he makes the Oilers NHL team he'll be back in Bathurst this year.
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Post by christopher on Sept 7, 2010 13:19:13 GMT -4
The point I'm making is that beacuse nothing clicked in CB, you can't just say the guy did not show is not "remotely close" to ready for the pro game. His situation is pretty similar to Marchand's when he went to Halifax and things went sour. I lived in Halifax when Marchand was there, saw that Moose team regularly, and found the Marchand/Lagace situations to be different. Watching Marchand in Halifax, you could still see that he was an elite talent - just one that didn't fit in on that Mooseheads team. Kind of like Ilya Kovalchuk in New Jersey this past season. You could still see Kovalchuk's skill, he was just a square peg in a round hole (maybe that'll change now that he's there for the long haul, who knows). Watching Lagace in Cape Breton, you saw a guy who looked completely lost and wondered how in the heck he scored as many goals as he did in Chicoutimi. Yes, part of the reason for that was the same problem Marchand had in Hali - the chemistry just wasn't there with CB teammates. But you could also see that the guy had clear holes in his game, and they were exposed when he was put into a situation of being a hired gun for a contending team. Very much like Nicolas Corbeil when acquired as a hired gun for CB in 2003-2004. YES!!! Great example - Kovy in NJ. I have nothing of value to add, I just wanted to acknowledge.
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Post by bois on Sept 7, 2010 13:25:32 GMT -4
I'm guessing Lagace will be back in the Q and dealt to offset his cost to CB..... he is a proven scorer who just didn't fit in with CB for some reason.... but he will have trade value as a marquis 20 year old at some point during this season..... Rimouski would be a great fit for him I bet... they may need a goalie but they will likely just address that at Christmas time and go for a 19 year old... There doesn't seem to be as much elite goaltenders this year compared to last year. Allen, Poulin, Riopel seemed to be the best in the business. I think if Acadie ends up shitting the bed they would get a huge return for Roy. good point tho I don't expect Bathurst to shit the bed or deal Roy...... and I still expect Rimouski to add a goalie at Christmas time...... even if it isn't an elite goalie... a serviceable 18-19 year old experienced veteran
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Post by Hat Trick Swayze's on Sept 7, 2010 13:32:13 GMT -4
I could actually see Roy making the Oilers farm team this year, He played fair last year with them and I mean when Your NHL Team finishes last along with your AHL team you have BIG problems, 5 Taylor Halls wont solve that situation IMO, Also it helps that Crappy Builin, Wont see much Ice time this year, And Martin Gerber Really? THis team really has nothing to loose and wouldnt shock me any if they take a gamble and he is in the minors this year.... OBR can't play for the Oilers farm team, unless he makes the Oilers NHL team he'll be back in Bathurst this year. Ahh right, thanks for that
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Post by Clubber Lang on Sept 7, 2010 13:53:10 GMT -4
There doesn't seem to be as much elite goaltenders this year compared to last year. Allen, Poulin, Riopel seemed to be the best in the business. I think if Acadie ends up shitting the bed they would get a huge return for Roy. good point tho I don't expect Bathurst to shit the bed or deal Roy...... and I still expect Rimouski to add a goalie at Christmas time...... even if it isn't an elite goalie... a serviceable 18-19 year old experienced veteran What about Audette from RN? Could a Lacerte be a finishing touch if he does well in CB?
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Post by catnut on Sept 7, 2010 13:54:38 GMT -4
good point tho I don't expect Bathurst to shit the bed or deal Roy...... and I still expect Rimouski to add a goalie at Christmas time...... even if it isn't an elite goalie... a serviceable 18-19 year old experienced veteran What about Audette from RN? Could a Lacerte be a finishing touch if he does well in CB? Lacerte can't go back to Rimouski.
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Post by bois on Sept 7, 2010 14:01:00 GMT -4
good point tho I don't expect Bathurst to shit the bed or deal Roy...... and I still expect Rimouski to add a goalie at Christmas time...... even if it isn't an elite goalie... a serviceable 18-19 year old experienced veteran What about Audette from RN? Could a Lacerte be a finishing touch if he does well in CB? I think maybe a Mastropietro from Victo..... or if Gatineau underachieves... (not likely).... perhaps a Clermont blockbuster would Choicoutimi move one of their goalies this year? who knows if they don't fill their overage slot .... you could probably see a Delmas, Champion or even Owen type move
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Post by Deer on Sept 7, 2010 14:23:37 GMT -4
A lot of people have suggested Rimouski acquire Delmas. It seems to make sense, as long as he's recovered well enough from that hip injury that's badly hampered his past two seasons........ seeing him fall from high-end pro prospect and 2nd round NHL draft pick, to nearly forgotten-about guy in his 5th year in the Q.
If healthy, I think the guy is one of the better goalies in the league - he was really good at 16 and 17 for Lewiston, and finally started playing well again down the stretch last year for Halifax. I'm not sure if it was just health that played a role in his 1.5-year slide or if attitude played a part too..... but if it was just health, he could re-establish himself as one of the league's best this year should his hip be OK.
As for Halifax, I don't see why they would need two arguably #1 goalies after Xmas in a non-contending year..... seems the obvious move would be to trade one. If Delmas is one of the only proven veteran guys on the market, they could get a decent price for him. I see them more likely to trade him than MCT, #1 because trading him opens a 20 spot, #2 because MCT seems to be their home-grown pet project, while Delmas was acquired through trade. I'm not sold on MCT, but they've had him from when he was 16 until he was NHL drafted and probably want to stay the course.
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