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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2012 12:00:40 GMT -4
his best shot at making a bogey would be to go back to the tee... however it was the 4th hole of the day lots of golf left to recover from a double... the decision he made brought the high number into play and really took him mostly out of contention but listening to him describe it was just typical Mickelson crap... he hit the shot he wanted (really?) just the grandstand got in the way lol.... he suggested he actually wanted to put the ball in the front bunker.... anyways doesn't matter likely as his game was just not on yesterday and both Oosthuizen and Bubba played the best and fully deserved the win If it was as easy as you suggest to re-tee the ball and put it on the green ... he would have done that the first time and made birdie. It was 240 yd hole ... not like he was hitting a wedge into the green. Most leave that hole with par ... so re-teeing the ball is likely going to be a double. I agree that the two guys in the playoff were the ones that deserved to be there ... that's why they keep score. It is 72 holes long ... and each hole counts. So not sure why this triple caused Phil the championship when he had another triple earlier in the tournament ... like you said there was lots of golf left. He didn't win because two other guys scored lower. Everybody makes decisions that are easy to second guess when they don't work out. I'll bet you that every player in the tournament had 5 or 6 shots they'd like to do over. Phil would pick his approach on the 4th hole ... not his 2nd shot.
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Post by bois on Apr 9, 2012 17:39:57 GMT -4
it's hindsight of course.. that's what discussion after the fact is
it's more the fact that listening to him talk about the shot he says he didn't mishit it.... he actually said he hit it where he wanted to just the grandstand got in the way.. he was shocked that the ball could possibly hit that ... he said if it carries the grandstand he has an easy up and down that he makes par 85% of the time from (perhaps but the grandstand isn't new.. he should have factored that into consideration in my opinion)... he said 75% of the spots on the green he felt he would not be able to make par from... to me that's just Phil covering up his mistake or justifying it to himself... same old same old.. if he had a brain for the game he'd have 9-10 majors now.. very frustrating to see as he's gotten older he still hasn't changed that part of his game
to a lesser extent the chip shot he hit on Saturday is similar.... he pulled it off tho so it goes down as an amazing play... but it was very high risk and if he hadn't pulled it off it would be up for debate as well
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 11, 2012 9:09:32 GMT -4
it's hindsight of course.. that's what discussion after the fact is it's more the fact that listening to him talk about the shot he says he didn't mishit it.... he actually said he hit it where he wanted to just the grandstand got in the way.. he was shocked that the ball could possibly hit that ... he said if it carries the grandstand he has an easy up and down that he makes par 85% of the time from (perhaps but the grandstand isn't new.. he should have factored that into consideration in my opinion)... he said 75% of the spots on the green he felt he would not be able to make par from... to me that's just Phil covering up his mistake or justifying it to himself... same old same old.. if he had a brain for the game he'd have 9-10 majors now.. very frustrating to see as he's gotten older he still hasn't changed that part of his game to a lesser extent the chip shot he hit on Saturday is similar.... he pulled it off tho so it goes down as an amazing play... but it was very high risk and if he hadn't pulled it off it would be up for debate as well I don't care what Phil said after the fact ... you criticized his decision making ... the decision to try to play out of the brush instead of going back to the tee. Now you are back-pedaling. Nobody can fault him for an errant tee shot that hit the railing ... and then the bad lie that followed that. Shit happens in golf ... all shots aren't going to be perfect.
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Post by bois on Apr 11, 2012 10:18:04 GMT -4
it's hindsight of course.. that's what discussion after the fact is it's more the fact that listening to him talk about the shot he says he didn't mishit it.... he actually said he hit it where he wanted to just the grandstand got in the way.. he was shocked that the ball could possibly hit that ... he said if it carries the grandstand he has an easy up and down that he makes par 85% of the time from (perhaps but the grandstand isn't new.. he should have factored that into consideration in my opinion)... he said 75% of the spots on the green he felt he would not be able to make par from... to me that's just Phil covering up his mistake or justifying it to himself... same old same old.. if he had a brain for the game he'd have 9-10 majors now.. very frustrating to see as he's gotten older he still hasn't changed that part of his game to a lesser extent the chip shot he hit on Saturday is similar.... he pulled it off tho so it goes down as an amazing play... but it was very high risk and if he hadn't pulled it off it would be up for debate as well I don't care what Phil said after the fact ... you criticized his decision making ... the decision to try to play out of the brush instead of going back to the tee. Now you are back-pedaling. Nobody can fault him for an errant tee shot that hit the railing ... and then the bad lie that followed that. Shit happens in golf ... all shots aren't going to be perfect. no i criticized his decision to not play for the green on his tee shot on a par 3.... and then the attempt to pull off some miracle shot wrong handed out of the brush after the fact yes not back pedaling at all.. as for errant tee shot.. he hit it.. he says itr wasn't errant at all.... why can I not fault him for that?
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Apr 11, 2012 11:25:39 GMT -4
I just popped into this thread and read the last few posts.... Phil said he basically hit the shot how he wanted to and that that grandstand being there ruined what is usually a good shot on that hole - after he just played the hole 4 times previous to this round? ?? Was he imagining the grandstand wasn`t there for the final round? How on earth can he hit it into the grandstand/trees and say that was the shot he wanted to make? lol.
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Post by Porkchop on Apr 11, 2012 11:32:03 GMT -4
it's hindsight of course.. that's what discussion after the fact is it's more the fact that listening to him talk about the shot he says he didn't mishit it.... he actually said he hit it where he wanted to just the grandstand got in the way.. he was shocked that the ball could possibly hit that ... he said if it carries the grandstand he has an easy up and down that he makes par 85% of the time from (perhaps but the grandstand isn't new.. he should have factored that into consideration in my opinion)... he said 75% of the spots on the green he felt he would not be able to make par from... to me that's just Phil covering up his mistake or justifying it to himself... same old same old.. if he had a brain for the game he'd have 9-10 majors now.. very frustrating to see as he's gotten older he still hasn't changed that part of his game to a lesser extent the chip shot he hit on Saturday is similar.... he pulled it off tho so it goes down as an amazing play... but it was very high risk and if he hadn't pulled it off it would be up for debate as well I don't care what Phil said after the fact ... you criticized his decision making ... the decision to try to play out of the brush instead of going back to the tee. Now you are back-pedaling. Nobody can fault him for an errant tee shot that hit the railing ... and then the bad lie that followed that. Shit happens in golf ... all shots aren't going to be perfect. as you said, you can't criticize his tee shot, as everybody will make a mistake or have bad luck sometimes. ..all we have to question, is his decision........ I think he can make that play out of the bush 10 more times and it would come out far enough for him to get a chance at an up and down...........and he can play as well right handed, as most of us can on our good side....... this is Phil....he will make some plays that leave others questioning his thinking, but when he pulls it off they all think he's a genius...........I personally love the way he plays...all or nothing.
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Post by AceKikr on Apr 11, 2012 12:18:56 GMT -4
It's not like it was a 150yds par 3 either... we are talking about going back to the tee to hit his 3rd shot from 245 yard... I think he made the right decision, just for unlucky.
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Post by elementz on Apr 11, 2012 14:23:44 GMT -4
Hoping to head out for the 1st round of the year on Monday...
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Post by AceKikr on Apr 11, 2012 14:56:57 GMT -4
I already had two rounds this year!!! # 3 this weekend!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 15:19:19 GMT -4
First Round of the year. Sunday. Chester.
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Post by elementz on Apr 11, 2012 15:20:35 GMT -4
I already had two rounds this year!!! # 3 this weekend! Is MGCC open yet?
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Post by Porkchop on Apr 11, 2012 15:34:47 GMT -4
Is there anything open in the Saint John area? we are down that way monday. Hampton was open early last year, and a nice place to start.
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Post by AceKikr on Apr 11, 2012 15:50:29 GMT -4
MGCC opening saturday.
Sussex is open, Petitcodiac is also open. Country Medows in Moncton is day to day, Lakeside next week (their range opens on saturday)... everything else around, no date.
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Post by elementz on Apr 11, 2012 15:59:23 GMT -4
Is there anything open in the Saint John area? we are down that way monday. Hampton was open early last year, and a nice place to start. Sussex and Rockwood are open. Welsford on the 20th and Westfield on May 1
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Post by elementz on Apr 11, 2012 15:59:38 GMT -4
MGCC opening saturday. Sussex is open, Petitcodiac is also open. Country Medows in Moncton is day to day, Lakeside next week (their range opens on saturday)... everything else around, no date. Good to know..thx
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