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Post by Reesor on Nov 20, 2013 9:36:19 GMT -4
Good news. Allowing a 19 year old to play in the AHL would have set a precedent I don't want set. Agreed big time. From a CHL fan's perspective, and completely selfishly, it's bad enough to see your 18/19yo stars leave for the NHL. If the AHL ever became an option at all, the talent pool for the CHL would decrease significantly. Add to that the snowball effect of possibly missing out on the world jrs, and it's very bad for minor hockey.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Nov 20, 2013 9:43:39 GMT -4
IMO the AHL is probably even worse for 18/19 year olds than the NHL. You are still playing against men, but there would be a ton of bitterness in those rooms of guys not getting called up, guys not wanting to be there, and a fairly constant shuffling of the roster. Sure it would help toughen a player up physically for the NHL, but the overall atmosphere of that setting is not something I would want my 18 year old hotshot to be part of too early.
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Post by juliansteed on Nov 20, 2013 9:49:18 GMT -4
I imagine the World Juniors are still a given at this point.
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Post by bois on Nov 20, 2013 9:57:50 GMT -4
Good news. Allowing a 19 year old to play in the AHL would have set a precedent I don't want set. I don't think it would set a bad precedent at all provided you made it a situation unique to these circumstances.. ie a first round NHL draft pick who made his NHL team in both his 18 and 19 year old seasons but was returned to junior in year one...... realistically in Grigorenko's case sending him back to the Q yet again would not help his development any at all now letting teams benefit from this situation as sc suggested in this thread... by being allowed to dress 3 euros at once that would set a precedent I don't think anybody wants set
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Post by sc74 on Nov 20, 2013 10:01:29 GMT -4
Good news. Allowing a 19 year old to play in the AHL would have set a precedent I don't want set. Scott Laughton did last year at 18 and he's playing for Oshawa in the OHL this season. It would only have been for 2 weeks.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 20, 2013 10:05:32 GMT -4
Good news. Allowing a 19 year old to play in the AHL would have set a precedent I don't want set. It was only for 2 weeks, but still made no sense as he wasn't coming back from injury.
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Post by Citris on Nov 20, 2013 11:56:35 GMT -4
QMJHL ?@qmjhl 7m
#QMJHL Trade Confirmation: VDO to SHE: Villeneuve, Benoit (96-02-01) 3rd round of 2014 SHE to VDO: Vladislav Lysenko (95-03-12)
A day after me looking up all the euros the landscape changes a bit.
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Post by MikeC on Nov 20, 2013 17:52:12 GMT -4
Good news. Allowing a 19 year old to play in the AHL would have set a precedent I don't want set. It wouldn't have been a precedent. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head, but I'm sure junior aged NHLers who were drafted from the CHL have done conditioning stints in the AHL before.
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Post by Citris on Nov 20, 2013 17:56:22 GMT -4
Good news. Allowing a 19 year old to play in the AHL would have set a precedent I don't want set. It wouldn't have been a precedent. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head, but I'm sure junior aged NHLers who were drafted from the CHL have done conditioning stints in the AHL before. Not that I doubt you, but I would be interested in that information. I'd have no idea how to search for it tho haha. one of those things.
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Post by sc74 on Nov 20, 2013 18:00:16 GMT -4
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Nov 20, 2013 20:15:29 GMT -4
I wonder if the Lysenko move has something to do with Grigorenko potentially coming back ? Quebec and Sherbrooke do have a history...
Can't trade Herzog though ,being a first year euro, who'd likely be the most appealing to a young Sherbrooke team.
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Post by jimmy on Nov 21, 2013 9:02:06 GMT -4
Good news. Allowing a 19 year old to play in the AHL would have set a precedent I don't want set. It wouldn't have been a precedent. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head, but I'm sure junior aged NHLers who were drafted from the CHL have done conditioning stints in the AHL before. It wasn't denied based on that anyway - the NHL just didn't buy that Grigorenko had any kind of injury requiring a conditioning stint for - the Sabres tried to claim "general body soreness".
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Nov 21, 2013 9:13:17 GMT -4
I wonder if the Lysenko move has something to do with Grigorenko potentially coming back ? Quebec and Sherbrooke do have a history... Can't trade Herzog though ,being a first year euro, who'd likely be the most appealing to a young Sherbrooke team. Herzog is a first year Euro and cant be traded as you said, but he too is 19 years old. Same as Sorensen and Grigorenko.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 21, 2013 9:14:51 GMT -4
I wonder if the Lysenko move has something to do with Grigorenko potentially coming back ? Quebec and Sherbrooke do have a history... Can't trade Herzog though ,being a first year euro, who'd likely be the most appealing to a young Sherbrooke team. Herzog is a first year Euro and cant be traded as you said, but he too is 19 years old. Same as Sorensen and Grigorenko. Can't see Sherbrooke trading foir a 19 year old Euro. They have a nice core of 17 and 16 year olds they are building for 2 years down the road.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Nov 21, 2013 9:54:24 GMT -4
I wonder if the Lysenko move has something to do with Grigorenko potentially coming back ? Quebec and Sherbrooke do have a history... Can't trade Herzog though ,being a first year euro, who'd likely be the most appealing to a young Sherbrooke team. Herzog is a first year Euro and cant be traded as you said, but he too is 19 years old. Same as Sorensen and Grigorenko. My bad. Thought he was a 95' born since he was NHL drafted this year.
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